How are you feeling?
- Thread starter Remus
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Happy, nothing planned for the rest of the day, so for the second day running, video gaming! Yay!
Thundercats
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Like killing myself, i mean, it's not like anyone will notice either way.
You'd notice, that's what matters, not what other people think
PebblesDundee is right. You shouldn't value your existence in how many people notice you, and what they think of what you do. Many people's observations are very biased and culturally based anyway; hardly of any significant importance (unless you choose to let them have significance).
You shouldn't kill yourself for the mere fact that you are alive right now. Let me explain; The mere chance that you exist as a human is so epically small statistically that it should almost be considered impossible. Of course, at one point your were born, but just think about the epic chain that went before it. If -any- of your ancestors (starting all the way back when we all still lived in Africa) had picked any others partners, at any other time, any other place, you might not even be here.
Better yet, the existence of each and every one of your ancestors are as statistically small as your own. And that's just their existence. Other factors like weather, land structure, knowledge and everything else, extended over millions of years, contribute as factors as to how statistically small the chance is that you are alive today.
I could ramble on and on about contributing factors, but my point remains the same. The mere fact that you exist as you are today, without any horrible mutations, in a area that supplies a global network that allows you to visit sites such as this, is nothing short of mindblowingly amazing. And remember this, you get one go-around.
If there's something you don't like about your life, change it. Don't end your life prematurely because there's something inconvenient in it. :3
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Thundercats
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Thanks, and I appreciate how amazing it is to be alive and things but I guess what I really meant was I don't feel like going on living when everyone's abandoned me and my life seems so bad because I can't talk to my best friend anymore, my girlfriend left me today, my friends don't seem to even like me, I have no prospects, my parents hate me, no one seems to even notice when i'm making an effort to overcome my shyness, I don't feel happy with who I am and I just seem like a burden to everyone. Is this really a life worth living?
coyote
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perhaps it's just time to make some changes in your life
rather than end it
if you make the changes - there is the possibility that life WILL become "worth living"
if you end it - that possibility no longer exists
Thundercats
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What changes can I make? My life has just been a stupid mistake that has benefitted no one, and i've lost everything i've ever cared about. To go on living will be to continue being a burden. I'm invisible anyway, so being dead isn't going to make things any worse for me, and at least i'll actually be doing people a favour.
Sorry to say this, I should be tender and caring, but you're being awfully selfish. You're talking about your friends and family like they're monsters, and forgetting how much they love you and how distraught they'll be if anything happens to you. I know what it's like to lose someone you love, especially a girlfriend, and right now it feels like love is pointless, nothing left in life is worth the suffering, but seriously, it does get better.
coyote
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i know how you feel - I've been there
i don't know enough about you to know what changes you can make in your life
but even if you did nothing, things WILL change
everything changes every minute of every day - that is the nature of existence
think back to who you were 5 years ago - did you imagine you would be where you are now?
so what makes you think you know what the future holds for you?
Thundercats
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I know what the future holds for me because the past has proved that things can only get worse, and yes things change, but in my case things always change for the worse. 5 years ago I would have cried if I would have known what i'd be like today.
Yes, it always is.
Loosing social contacts you care about always sucks. Especially when it are people with whom you had a deep connection. It's a betrayal of trust. Real friends don't just get up and leave whenever there's a problem, and neither should girlfriends, and definitely not parents.
Like you said yourself, -they- don't notice when you're making an effort to better yourself. In this scenario, they're the ones that make the mistake. It's out of your control, and is a factor utterly unrelated to your successes. The success/effort is still an success/effort with or without their approval or support.
We are as good as the environment allows us to be, unless we live our life to an external design such as religion, philosophy or even a vivid dream we try to achieve. And I say ''we'' because I've been there too. The thought of suicide seems like a good way to get rid of all negativity, but you're also getting rid of all the great things that we don't notice we have. This is not your fault however, negative thoughts are just so much stronger then general positive thoughts.
The things about suicide is; you can't un-die. Death is the opposite of life, not an alternative to it. Once you're gone, you'll never ever come back again. An eternal state of nothing. Which would be a shame if you were to be that, because we can all change. And I don't mean that in some cheesy metaphor kind of way. I mean we can literally identify the things we don't like about ourselves and alter them to a level we find acceptable.
Instead of quiting life, why not just slow down a whole lot? There's two sides to any relationship. Those people you described are just as much to blame for leaving. And besides, what they think of you, is not what you are.
coyote
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wow, cool!!
could you go to the race track and make some bets for me?
i'm trying to get enough money for a new kayak
Thundercats
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Ok then, you see what it's like to lose the person who gave you a reason to live. Then you'll understand. I understand people only live once but i'm not going to prolong my misery. Seriously, I don't know why i'm just arguing my point, I should just hurry up and end this pain.
A new kayak? I guess that means you have one at the moment? Can I have it when you get the new one, from your new betting system?
Thundercats
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"New betting system" So now people are just treating my pain as a joke? What is it with you people?A new kayak? I guess that means you have one at the moment? Can I have it when you get the new one, from your new betting system?
coyote
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i have, she did, i do...
she was my wife, my lover, my friend, my confidant, the mother of my children
i gave up my career, my home, my possessions, and moved across the country to be with her and make her happy
but if i had killed myself when she left me (like i almost did) - when I was in such terrible pain - then i wouldn't have been able to experience all the joy I have known in the past few years that I never imagined would happen in my life back then
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Sorry Will, I wasn't making your problem into a joke. I was making a joke from what someone said.
I thought a bit of humour might help, sorry