Do you agree??
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MikeyC
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Jenna Marbles is awesome.
Yes, I do agree. I have never had that phrase explained in such depth before but I agree with what she's saying. Girls date compatible boys, whether or not they're nice, and the reason she broke up with you may have absolutely nothing to do with niceness.
Also, I want to marry this girl. She is hilarious.
I wonder if she likes metalhead mental freaks...from Australia. ::
Yes, I do agree. I have never had that phrase explained in such depth before but I agree with what she's saying. Girls date compatible boys, whether or not they're nice, and the reason she broke up with you may have absolutely nothing to do with niceness.
Also, I want to marry this girl. She is hilarious.
I wonder if she likes metalhead mental freaks...from Australia. ::
EitherOr
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Jenna Marbles is awesome.
Yes, I do agree. I have never had that phrase explained in such depth before but I agree with what she's saying. Girls date compatible boys, whether or not they're nice, and the reason she broke up with you may have absolutely nothing to do with niceness.
Also, I want to marry this girl. She is hilarious.
The accent might put you over the top. I think you've got a legitimate shot.
MikeyC
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I'm a shoo-in!
Jenna Marbles is awesome.
Yes, I do agree. I have never had that phrase explained in such depth before but I agree with what she's saying. Girls date compatible boys, whether or not they're nice, and the reason she broke up with you may have absolutely nothing to do with niceness.
Also, I want to marry this girl. She is hilarious.
Oh, she'll love you. Who wouldn't like a Australian metalhead that is also a animated doctor?
MarionBerry
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Ohmygosh this girl is great!
I think this is a great explanation of the victim mentality that some guys adopt to cope with rejection, whether perceived or real. And I wish they would effing get over it.
I think this is a great explanation of the victim mentality that some guys adopt to cope with rejection, whether perceived or real. And I wish they would effing get over it.
MikeyC
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Exactly. And if she dumps me, then I guess she doesn't like nice guys. Kidding, kidding.
JuiceB
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You'll be perfect for each other.Exactly. And if she dumps me, then I guess she doesn't like nice guys. Kidding, kidding.
MikeyC
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I tend to agree.
Haha, I think I have an actual crush on her. Her videos are hilarious and she doesn't take herself too seriously, which is a great trait.
KiaKaha
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Do I agree?
No I dont. She makes some good points yes, but she also leaves out other points of view to justify and prove her own point. There are a few strawman examples in what she is saying, simply set up once again to disprove that 'nice guys finish last'
We all know that there has to be compatibility and common group - some guys are idiots in this regard. I do find it interesting about the concept of people who associate with people that they deem 'equal' but that is just human nature (which I think is rather sad part of the human condition) and which permeates all kinds of relationship - not just dating.
Do nice guys finish last? Sure they do....sometimes. Are girls honest with themselves? No some of them aren't.
At the risk of being ostracized as a woman hating, having a victim mentality, cant handle rejection, rabid misogynist - I will tell you why... when I am not pressed for time.
No I dont. She makes some good points yes, but she also leaves out other points of view to justify and prove her own point. There are a few strawman examples in what she is saying, simply set up once again to disprove that 'nice guys finish last'
We all know that there has to be compatibility and common group - some guys are idiots in this regard. I do find it interesting about the concept of people who associate with people that they deem 'equal' but that is just human nature (which I think is rather sad part of the human condition) and which permeates all kinds of relationship - not just dating.
Do nice guys finish last? Sure they do....sometimes. Are girls honest with themselves? No some of them aren't.
At the risk of being ostracized as a woman hating, having a victim mentality, cant handle rejection, rabid misogynist - I will tell you why... when I am not pressed for time.
dottie
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to;dw (too obnoxious; didn't watch)
my thoughts: yes, nice guys finish last. there are studies that indicate most bosses and people in position of high power are sociopaths. wish i could find the article again. this is a dog eat dog world.
this is not to say be a total jerk. but the art is knowing WHEN to be a jerk.
my thoughts: yes, nice guys finish last. there are studies that indicate most bosses and people in position of high power are sociopaths. wish i could find the article again. this is a dog eat dog world.
this is not to say be a total jerk. but the art is knowing WHEN to be a jerk.
MikeyC
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I think this video was more about the dating world, but I have heard of that study, too. Seeing as I'm not going to eat other dogs, I am at a constant disadvantage!
MikeyC
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I don't have much of a backbone personally, which is something I'm trying to work on, so yes, I've had my fair share of people walking over me. However, I've also had many opportunities with women in the past, and I even got a girlfriend last year. Now, that ended badly, but that was my fault. For someone who's had lots of chances of sex, and blown them all, means that the fault lies with me, and not women.
Partially true, you have to be quite dominant and firm to be at the top, or otherwise powerful or influential. But, it's about the common person finishing last. Meaning no profit from being a nice person all together. Just because someone is nice doesn't me he or she is a timid doormat. One can be nice AND assertive.
MikeyC
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A good combination and one I'll probably spend the rest of my life trying to aim for.
Opaline
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Absolutely. I don't think being an all-out jerk is a good idea by any means. But not taking crap from people - in other words, not being afraid of offending - is important.
Well, obviously.
Am I saying anything of substance?
*quietly leaves thread*
Opaline
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*tiptoes back into thread*
I think it will be the same for me. I'm not a man so it has different implications for me, but it's still important and being a doormat or "too nice" is not good for a woman either. I know the feeling of being taken advantage of because of my "niceness" all too well.
MikeyC
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Different implications, sure, but the outcome is still the same: you don't want to be walked all over and taken advantage of because you're too nice/timid to stand up for yourself.
I would love to go back in time and be able to stand up for myself back in school. I believe that's where all this began.