A question for virgins ?

MikeyC

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^ Ha, yeah. If I had a girlfriend I was really in to, once every 4 days would seem like not enough. ::p:

So, my simply stating that I'd like to have sex because I've gone two years without, on a public forum, disturbs some of you?

Really?

Wow.

Why?
I missed something here. I'm not disturbed at all.
 

psych

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Hi psych

I assume your rarely exposed to different views taking into account your reaction.

You are wrong about that.


Not disturbed at all. I find it disgusting for people to sleep with several people. The feeling to have sex does not disturb me. If for example a man were to have sex with a women every three or four days, it shows lack of control of their desires on their part. I doubt these type of people can take any form of relationship seriously and from experience...I'm usually right.
What does the number of times they have sex a week have to do with anything? If they are consenting adults, a couple... & Your post lays down an awful lot of judgement without definiting the nature of the relationship to begin with....

Perhaps they don't have sex for a month because they are dealing with a death or illness in the family? Then, once some time has passed they have sex ten times a week for a few weeks?
It's an intimate relationship of consenting adults. Why are thee any judgements cast about in this situation at all?

However, I am disturbed when people take advantage over prostitutes, regardless of their gender.

Who is taking advantage of whom. Not every prostitute is some waif..? Not every john is a predator... Perhaps just a horny fool... Worse, a horny fool with friends cheering him on...

One member believes prostitution is equivalent to a job. I find this thinking disturbing too. An individual performing a job is protected under employment legislations and health & safety guidelines.

At the Chicken Ranch in Nevada, they are... Many other places globally as well. Just because someone isn't fortunate enough, or perhaps intelligent enough to not have sanction from a government doesn't make them bad people.
A prostitute has no protection from my understanding. Unlike a job, a prostitute does not require permanent address, does not pay taxes, is not entitled to a pension scheme and so on.

Depends on the pimp, or her own resourcefulness.

A distinction must be made between prostitutes and people who work for a business that offer sexual services to clients.

Oh, I see, now we're making distinctions. Again, just because something is sanctioned by a government, doesn't necessarily make it better.



It's what I believe is right. Feel free to disagree. We all have our own set of morals. Least we can do is respectfully disagree and tolerate different opinions, no matter how offensive they are.

I do. I expected nothing less. I'm not offended by you. I can totally agree to disagree.


The mainstream media is full of garbage. I do not take much notice of it to be honest.

There is plenty of media that is not mainstream that many members of this board partake in, that is not garbage, & that deal, or have dealt with such subject matter...


You do care, otherwise you would not have posted your emotional comment.

No.
Because I know that folks that exist in this space, that feel differently than that will wander my way. Also, that others, that can get over our differences will also wander my way, this is something that will truly come to pass. :)
 

MrSunday

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If they're having sex every three or four days and it's not interfering with their responsibilities (like say, work or taking care of their kids), then what would be the point of controlling their desires? Did I miss something?

I'll make myself clear. I meant if a man were to have sex with different women every few days.
 

psych

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I'll make myself clear. I meant if a man were to have sex with different women every few days.

Once again, consenting adults. Why would you venture a care, or a judgement? Why? It is none of your business. It does not involve you.
 

MrSunday

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You are wrong about that.

Okay.

What does the number of times they have sex a week have to do with anything? If they are consenting adults, a couple... & Your post lays down an awful lot of judgement without definiting the nature of the relationship to begin with....

Sorry I meant a man having sex with different women.

Who is taking advantage of whom. Not every prostitute is some waif..? Not every john is a predator... Perhaps just a horny fool... Worse, a horny fool with friends cheering him on...

Well the man taking advantage over the women. She's helpless and needs money. Instead of helping her, he has sex with her and gives her money, even though it does not help in the long-term. She or he is forced to resort to prostitution.


Oh, I see, now we're making distinctions. Again, just because something is sanctioned by a government, doesn't necessarily make it better.

Yes, distinctions are important. I cannot eliminate perverts. But to control them is practicable. So it's about practicality as well.
 

coyote

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I doubt you will be a good husband if you want to get married. I assume you will be those type that get married, have sex with your wife, have a few children and then commit adultery. Hope this does not apply to you, but I think it's likely.

i've been married twice - and the scenario you describe did not happen either time
 

MrSunday

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Once again, consenting adults. Why would you venture a care, or a judgement? Why? It is none of your business. It does not involve you.

It's my opinion and I can say whatever I want. I agree it has nothing to do with me but I take an interest in this topic.
 

psych

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Okay.



Sorry I meant a man having sex with different women.



Well the man taking advantage over the women. She's helpless and needs money. Instead of helping her, he has sex with her and gives her money, even though it does not help in the long-term.




Yes, distinctions are important. I cannot eliminate perverts. But to control them is practicable. So it's about practicality as well.

I'll deal with the portion of this I have not already covered as well...

You're assuming the prostitute is helpless.
You're also assuming that he's not helping her by giving her money. It might be spent on crack, but it might also be spent on food, or medical care.

It's practical for you to judge others as perverts? Seems like a waste of energy to me. Just sayin'.
 

MrSunday

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You're assuming the prostitute is helpless.

It's likely. It's a presumptions and there are always exceptions....

You're also assuming that he's not helping her by giving her money. It might be spent on crack, but it might also spent on food, or medical care.

It's does not help the prostitute in the long-term. It would be better if someone gets them off the streets. If they like what they do, then go ahead...

It's practical for you to judge others as perverts? seems like a waste of energy to me. Just sayin'.

Yes, I judge people and it's practical. It doesn't physically waste energy. I never go tired of judging people. It's natural to me and I fully embrace it.

I enjoy these discussions. I like my views to be challenged. Very stimulating. Thank you for responding to my posts.
 
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MikeyC

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The girl I paid a lap dance for probably makes more money in a week than I'll see in a month. I can imagine she's not helpless.

Of course there are women being taken advantage of - it happens everywhere. Not denying that. Ultimately it's up to you whether you want to help her or use her services, so to speak.
 

psych

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It's likely. It's a presumptions and there are always exceptions....



It's does not help the prostitute in the long-term. It would be better if someone gets them off the streets. If they like what they do, then go ahead...



Yes, I judge people and it's practical. It doesn't physically waste energy. I never go tired of judging people. It's natural to me and I fully embrace it.

Thank you, at least you admit there are exceptions.

You're assuming it doesn't help the prostitute in the long term... Many would've died as junkies were they married. It happens all the time. Many bounce in and out of clubs here in the US, that do pay taxes, that prostitute on the side... Not to mention countless other scenarios...

Enjoy your judgements... I do hope they will fulfill you.
 

MikeyC

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She's a lap dancer...not a prostitute.
That's true. Do you think there's a difference there?

I also got a "massage" on my 23rd birthday. That was interesting. I wonder how much money she makes. I think she got $60 for the time I was there, which wasn't too long, ha.
 

9407

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If it matters, here in Canada prostitution is legal and escort places often advertise on the Internet and in newspapers saying that they're looking for new girls. It's not like these women are forced.
 

coyote

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i've been a few places where prostitution is legal

there it IS just a job - the women i talked to chose to be there

they could make more money and help their families more than by working in a factory

in most places with legalized prostitution the industry is regulated

the workers are afforded as much protection as any other
 

9407

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i've been a few places where prostitution is legal

there it IS just a job - the women i talked to chose to be there

they could make more money and help their families more than by working in a factory

in most places with legalized prostitution the industry is regulated

the workers are afforded as much protection as any other


Yep. The places I went to with my friends the women were clean, healthy and looked happy. And if they didn't want to have sex with us (one said it was because we were too young), then they didn't have to. Nothing like the stereotype you see on T.V.
 

MrSunday

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Thank you, at least you admit there are exceptions.

You're assuming it doesn't help the prostitute in the long term... Many would've died as junkies were they married. It happens all the time. Many bounce in and out of clubs here in the US, that do pay taxes, that prostitute on the side... Not to mention countless other scenarios...

I'm concerned about prostitutes that are forced through factors such as debt, drugs, poverty and so on. They should receive help if they do not want to continue with such a profession.

Enjoy your judgements... I do hope they will fulfill you.

Who is taking advantage of whom. Not every prostitute is some waif..? Not every john is a predator... Perhaps just a horny fool... Worse, a horny fool with friends cheering him on

Enjoy your judgementals too.



That's true. Do you think there's a difference there?

I also got a "massage" on my 23rd birthday. That was interesting. I wonder how much money she makes. I think she got $60 for the time I was there, which wasn't too long, ha.

A prostitute has sex with her clients. A lap dancer dances sexually but does not have sex with her clients.

If it matters, here in Canada prostitution is legal and escort places often advertise on the Internet and in newspapers saying that they're looking for new girls. It's not like these women are forced.

i've been a few places where prostitution is legal

there it IS just a job - the women i talked to chose to be there

they could make more money and help their families more than by working in a factory

in most places with legalized prostitution the industry is regulated

the workers are afforded as much protection as any other

I doubt both of you would mind if your daughters become a prostitute or a lap dancer. You would probably cheer them on. I think it is fair to say some women that provide sexual services are safe while others are not. Some are forced while others it is voluntary.

Moving on, if the industry is regulated then that's fine. I highly doubt banning this will work, unless significant cultural changes take place.
 
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9407

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I'm concerned about prostitutes that are forced through factors such as debt, drugs, poverty and so on. They should receive help if they do not want to continue with such a profession.





Enjoy your judgementals too.





A prostitute has sex with her clients. A lap dancer dances sexually but does not have sex with her clients.





I doubt both of you would mind if your daughters become a prostitute or a lap dancer. You would probably cheer them on. I think it is fair to say some women that provide sexual services are safe while others are not. Some are forced while others it is voluntary.

Moving on, if the industry is regulated then that's fine. I highly doubt banning this will work, unless significant cultural changes take place.

I wouldn't cheer them on, but at the same time, I really don't see a problem with someone having sex every once in a while, even if it's with different people. I'm 18, and the vast majority of people my age (from what I see) are not looking to settle down and get married. People of both genders will have sex with their opposite gender friends and as long as no one's getting hurt, it doesn't matter. If I had a girlfriend, then I wouldn't go to escorts. Some people don't want to settle down and it's their business. Don't force your opinions on other people.
 
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