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kc1296426

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Please read this. Don't ignore this, don't skip this, read it. This will help you.

Despite what anyone on any forum says, and how miserable and hopeless and real of all the things they say and how complex problems can get, Social Anxiety is TREAT-ABLE and is basically CURABLE for ANYONE. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't cure your problems with Social Anxiety Disorder.

You can't afford to WAIT to get over Social Anxiety Disorder. That is simply how it does NOT work. The moment you make the decision to get help, is the day you'll start on getting better. Wether it be self-help, professional help, talking to a trusted friend.. you can get OVERCOME a LOT of your feelings if you GO and get help. Waiting around thinking that a lightning strike will hit you and make you feel better is not going to happen.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with going to counseling. Nor is it embarrassing or making you 'crazy'. It's a matter of helping yourself... you are the only person that has control of wether you get better or not, and they can help you start and guide you thru that process. They are there for a reason -- to help you with anxiety. Anxiety is very effective to treat, and things may seem bad now, but going to get help will change all of that.

Most practices will work with you if you have financial troubles, most accept insurance and most have "sliding scales" where they can adjust a price depending on your income, so if you are worried about financial side of things, you will be okay.

There are so many ways to get help, and even if you feel stuck, you are NOT stuck. There are hotlines that you can call for free in many local, and state governments in the United States and in many different countries where you can talk about how you feel and how to get better. You have to be honest with talking about your problems with these people, and they will NEVER judge you and are there too help. Let everything on the inside come out.

Seriously. Surround yourself in positivity and let go of this forum -- it's great to relate sometimes but that's all this forum is good for. Asking questions about the disorder, or getting advice from other people who have the disorder is bad logic. Yes, you can get temporary relief by knowing how to avoid a situation or how to calm down, but that is not good in the long term sense and for yourself and helping yourself. You are going to be hearing alot of advice that is not good for you, because in the end, you are listening from a person who hasn't gotten completely over their problems, and listening to someone like that is like listening to someone who is in jail about how to stay away from the police. It doesn't make sense, you know what I am saying? Listening to someone who got over their SA and found solutions is a good idea, but not someone who is in it still. Being around happy, positive, or non-negative or as non-judgemental people as you can. It will help you..... but you need to go out and get help and help yourself, because you can get better, but it literally starts with YOU.

All these things you are feeling and the consequences, and the cycles, can vanish. I promise. It only takes the steps and the courage to seek the help you need. We as people need help sometimes in everyday situations, not limited to anxiety. So go and do it and get better.

And before you start to criticize me, I am not saying that therapy alone can solve everyone's problem... I think that's obvious. But going and speaking with someone who can help you will be extremely beneficial, and it will help you start in the right direction of what YOU need to do, to get better, because getting better can be unique to every person, because every person has their own problems. (even people without anxiety problems)

Forget your past and what has happened. Life isn't about the past, it's about the future and where you are going. Keep your head up and know things are going to get better, as long as you let yourself go, stay open-minded, and surround yourself in positivity. Because positivity is the key in knowing things will be okay. Because they REALLY will.

Life is actually great and when you put the negatives aside and focus on the future and how great it can be, and when you become focused and knowledgable about what has happened and when you learn the skills to become better... you will be happier. Trust me. Life is too short to be anything but happy. Keep good cliches close to you -- think about the big picture of things, and how you can get better. Cliches are real and are positive for a reason. I used cliches to help me get over depression because they were real and I knew they were and I stuck by them, even when I had skewed perceptions of reality, like alot of depressed or anxious people have.

Confidence is key, and Social Anxiety feeds off of low esteem and low confidence. Fake the condifence 'till you make it. Literally. It will help SO much, especially in everyday life. Don't be an arrogant assh*le (which I know you won't be, but you know), but definitely fake the confidence until you start building your true confidence. Life is a skill that you get better at as times go. Literally, you and I both know this. Try to ignore the people who put you down as much as you can, and make sure when you are letting out all your feelings with your professional, that you tell them this.

Don't think I'm just bullsh*tting here or whatever you're thinking. Take it for what it is and use my advice... your life is worth it, and you will thank yourself down the road for getting help and saving your life. Life is amazing and you can't take it for granted. You will eventually have to get help anyway, because you need help to get back on your feet sometimes... so why not get get help this moment? It's okay, and it's normal. You are only helping yourself in the end, and that's the key. Remember that YOU are STRONGER than you really think you are. God Bless & Happy Holidays to you and your family.
 
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kc1296426

Active member
^Been there, done that.:)
So what do you do when all of that does not work?:thinking:

What have you done?

Some solutions work for others, and some of those don't work. It's okay. You have to keep searching for ways to get things to work.

You have to surround yourself in positivity and know that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, no matter how f*cking scary and complex that tunnel will be.

Seriously.
 
What have you done?

Some solutions work for others, and some of those don't work. It's okay. You have to keep searching for ways to get things to work.

You have to surround yourself in positivity and know that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, no matter how f*cking scary and complex that tunnel will be.

Seriously.

I have had social anxiety for 31 years. I have got professional help (several different times with several different professionals) I have tried CBT and other cognitive therapies, the ignoring it hoping it will fade with time, the acceptance hoping it will make it not so powerful, the "letting go" theory, the anxiety workbooks, the positive thinking applications, even more professionals...etc

It is not possible for some people to rid themselves of anxiety. People who suggest that it is possible for everyone, make the ones who have never succeeded feel like a failure. Just sayin'
 

bcsr

Well-known member
There isn't a "cure" for an anxiety disorder. You can improve and learn to manage anxiety... but it doesn't just "go away". No one should go into therapy expecting their anxiety to just vanish.

I'm definitely on the "recovered" side of the fence, and one thing I'll definitely agree with is that it has to start with you. All the pills and therapy in the world won't help you in the slightest if you aren't willing to take yourself out of your comfort zone.
 

kc1296426

Active member
I have had social anxiety for 31 years. I have got professional help (several different times with several different professionals) I have tried CBT and other cognitive therapies, the ignoring it hoping it will fade with time, the acceptance hoping it will make it not so powerful, the "letting go" theory, the anxiety workbooks, the positive thinking applications, even more professionals...etc

It is not possible for some people to rid themselves of anxiety. People who suggest that it is possible for everyone, make the ones who have never succeeded feel like a failure. Just sayin'

There's some mental blockage in your mind that is making you not become better.

And I'm sorry that it makes you feel like a failure. That wasn't my intentions at all, and seeing the negative side of things can make you feel like one...but honestly you aren't a failure.

I don't care HOW long you've had anxiety for, make it 30 years, and then make it 100 years. The past simply does not matter, it's all about your future and where you are going. The past doesn't make you who you are today. You can still overcome alot of those feelings to the point where you feel connected and happy again.

I never said once that you can rid yourself 100% of anxiety. Your brain has a 'muscle' that detects fear, which causes anxiety. It's just that people with the disorder, have this muscle trigger more frequentely or at false positives. You are designed to have anxiety and to have this muscle, so yes, a 100% cure is obviously not possible. Without this muscle you would be dead because you need it to survive and to tell you to hold back on something because of fear.

You need to find ways to break this mental blockage. You need to be dedicated, you need to fix alot of things in your life. You will get there though. Follow what you think you need to do, and always remember to ignore society or what others that put you down say.

I promise you, you CAN get better and be happy. It's that negative attitude that you have that's putting you down. You honestly need to start soul searching, and start finding help, and be open-minded and dedicated. Read more and have more knowledge in yourself.

Seriously man, you can get better.

I never thought my depression would go away and frankly, I didn't even know I had that bad of a depression or a bad cycle.

You just have to get rid of that cycle that you are in with it.

Keep your head up, be happy, and do things that make you happy. Life is truly short. Make everyday count. If someone thinks you're weird, than ignore them or tell them to f*ck themselves, because they're rude for thinking you're weird and saying it, and to living up to what society feeds them.

Break some of your daily life cycles and start thinking about what means the most to you in life, and what makes you happiest, and go after it.

Life should be like a movie. Something exciting, something adventurous. Without change in your life, it becomes stagnant, and you could get depressed in that same cycle or way of living for so long.

Don't give up. Break the emotional jail that you feel like you are in. Be positive and think positive, because it will help you down the road to be rational and to think for yourself and how to solve problems better.

I have the upmost biggest confidence in you and for you to change your life and re-discover how to live in a healthy, and happy way.

Is it environmental problems (everything around you)? Is it biological? Is it social?

Learn more about psychology and learn more. The more knowledge you have the better off you will be.

Happy Holidays to you and your family and keep your head up.
 

kc1296426

Active member
The length of your post made me anxious and I avoided finishing it. :(

I'm sorry! Basically what I said is, go and seek help, I recommend professional help. You can find alot of options of wether to do it online, over e-mail, or in person... etc. There are many ways to cover the financial fee if that is your problem, most mental health centers have sliding scales.

Happy Holidays :)
 

Hellhound

Super Moderator
Nice wall of text, but no therapist here has been able to treat my social anxiety. They all say I'm hopeless and want to keep me as stable as possible with a bunch of drugs for the rest of my pathetic existance.

"There is absolutely nothing wrong with going to counseling. Nor is it embarrassing or making you 'crazy'"

Well, some news for you. Therapists have told me that I am crazy. Every. Single. One.

"They are there for a reason -- to help you with anxiety"

They all tell me to "just ignore it". If I say I can't just do that, they tell me to go to a psychiatrist to get more medications.

"It only takes the steps and the courage to seek the help you need."

I have done that countless times for years. Still no results.

"going and speaking with someone who can help you will be extremely beneficial"

No one I've known in these nearly three decades of my life has helped me. In the end, everyone has judged me and labeled me as the weirdo. Nobody f*cking gets it.

"Life isn't about the past, it's about the future"

I can't really forget about over 20 years of daily abuse. Future is uncertain.

"Try to ignore the people who put you down as much as you can, and make sure when you are letting out all your feelings with your professional, that you tell them this."

Alright. I will ignore the constant discrimination and loneliness, I will ignore my brother beating me up if I don't agree with him that I am a failure, and I'll tell my therapists only to be told to "just ignore it" and that I'm at fault for it. Yes, good idea.

"God Bless & Happy Holidays to you and your family."

I don't believe in God and I'll spend the holidays alone. Nice try.
 

Hellhound

Super Moderator
And before you suggest CBT, the only doctor here that offers it charges $3000 PER SESSION.

Don't even think of suggesting me that.
 

Gadfly

Well-known member
I'm spending Christmas and my birthday tomorrow alone, no gifts, with 7 cats who will all either be split up and rehomed or die in a shelter after I'm incarcerated by an insane society for growing mj in the wrong state. I haven't celebrated a birthday or a holiday in 6 years. A little pep talk ain't gonna change all that, although it might spur some of the 20 year olds on here to go get laid. Here's hoping...
 

Gadfly

Well-known member
That might be six cats...one pried the door open an hour ago and ran into the darkness...I hear the coyotes going wild out there...
 

Gadfly

Well-known member
Never mind, he just showed up! GOD BLESS US ALL, EVERYONE OF US! It IS a wonderful life! Well...not really...and I'm agnostic, but you get the point...don't you?
 

kc1296426

Active member
Man, you are pretty negative. The reason why you let things happen is because of negativity -- and it's not entirely your fault.

You have to be open-minded, and positive, and know you're going to get better... to get better. It's as simple as that. I realize you are agnostic, and I'm not here to just give a "pep talk", I'm here to help spur people into helping themselves, and that you can get better, because I keep getting the vibe that people here think that they can't get better... wrong.

I'm not here thinking I'm a Jesus and that OMG IM HERE GOD BLESS US ALL, I'm just here to say that you can be happy in life and that's a choice that you can choose. Life can be wonderful if you let it be wonderful. The choice is yours. Happy Holidays my friend, and if you are feeling lonely, let it out. Meet some people and find friends. Be friendly, be open, and look friendly and inviting. It's all about what you do with your life, it's your choice... you know what I am saying? Happy Birthday by the way, I wish you the best of luck and you can overcome anything you are feeling on the inside and make it as healthy as possible, I promise. It just takes dedication and work.
 

laure15

Well-known member
I'm glad this approach worked for you. Happy holidays to you too. But, there is no "cookie-cutter" solution to solving everybody's anxiety problems. Everyone is unique and each person's circumstances are different. Someone who has been abused for over 20 years can't ignore the past and move on, just like that. The past haunts the person, it manifests in ways when we least expected it, even though we tried so hard to suppress past memories. For some people, it takes longer to recover than for others.
 

kc1296426

Active member
Nice wall of text, but no therapist here has been able to treat my social anxiety. They all say I'm hopeless and want to keep me as stable as possible with a bunch of drugs for the rest of my pathetic existance.

"There is absolutely nothing wrong with going to counseling. Nor is it embarrassing or making you 'crazy'"

Well, some news for you. Therapists have told me that I am crazy. Every. Single. One.

"They are there for a reason -- to help you with anxiety"

They all tell me to "just ignore it". If I say I can't just do that, they tell me to go to a psychiatrist to get more medications.

"It only takes the steps and the courage to seek the help you need."

I have done that countless times for years. Still no results.

"going and speaking with someone who can help you will be extremely beneficial"

No one I've known in these nearly three decades of my life has helped me. In the end, everyone has judged me and labeled me as the weirdo. Nobody f*cking gets it.

"Life isn't about the past, it's about the future"

I can't really forget about over 20 years of daily abuse. Future is uncertain.

"Try to ignore the people who put you down as much as you can, and make sure when you are letting out all your feelings with your professional, that you tell them this."

Alright. I will ignore the constant discrimination and loneliness, I will ignore my brother beating me up if I don't agree with him that I am a failure, and I'll tell my therapists only to be told to "just ignore it" and that I'm at fault for it. Yes, good idea.

"God Bless & Happy Holidays to you and your family."

I don't believe in God and I'll spend the holidays alone. Nice try.

Hi, and I'm sorry that life has treated you this way.

PLEASE know that it is NOT your fault, regardless of what anyone says. Maybe there are better choices you could of picked down the line... but who's to say it is your fault or not? Mental illnesses cause your perception to be skewed and be negative. It's apart of the biological process and sometimes isn't your fault. I understand that man.

I never said to ignore all those feelings, I get it, you can't ignore it.

What I see has happened here: you have gotten treated like it's your fault for everything and it isn't your fault, but you think you have, so you take it internally.

You have to start saying f*ck you to people who put you down. You have to start building your true inner confidence and self esteem. It's essential to living, and you need some, and I think you should at least start faking it.

Think outside the box. Read between the lines. Look at the bigger picture.

Your brother just cares about you, and is calling you a failure because he doesn't UNDERSTAND what you're going thru! It's tough, and it's very rough living the way you do. I get it man. But there are options, no matter how much abuse you have gone thru.

Look at the news... people who have been thru 9/11 or thru major tragic events seeing people who have died, and people who have lost their entire families or something like that.

Some of them are so strong they pick up the pieces and get better. They are happy even thru all those hardships. You have to learn how to cope and how to reason better, but it will take a lot of time, because of a skewed perception. Don't get worried over that reason, it's just what it takes to build.

Sometimes in life you go thru tough things that make you stronger and that make you the great person you are today.

The great thing about anxiety and social anxiety is that you can definitely get over those feelings and find help in many ways, and become happy again.

But it has to start inside of you, and you have to WANT it, and KNOW that you will get better. It's hard, and you're going to have setbacks, but once you get over your feelings, you will realize that the hard work you put into yourself is worth it.

Try your hardest to be positive and seek a light in every day. It will help you become more rational down the road.

It's hard to understand what you're going thru and why it has to be this way -- but just blindly try your hardest to seek help and get better, then it will pay off and you will understand what went wrong, no matter how complex it may seem.

Trust me. I just got out of depression, and I know they are two different mental illnesses, but I feel like my advice can help for people with anxiety. It takes effort and work. You need to be positive.

If you write this post and my topic off, then what's that going do to you? You have to start believing somehow.

There's a reason why things happen in life. Everything... and sometimes it's not your fault, and realize that.

Don't get yourself so down. If you need anybody to talk too, please call this number, even if you want to talk about ANYTHING: Boys Town National Hotline, 24/7, 1-800-448-3000 or go to www.yourlifeyourvoice.org.
 
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kc1296426

Active member
I'm glad this approach worked for you. Happy holidays to you too. But, there is no "cookie-cutter" solution to solving everybody's anxiety problems. Everyone is unique and each person's circumstances are different. Someone who has been abused for over 20 years can't ignore the past and move on, just like that. The past haunts the person, it manifests in ways when we least expected it, even though we tried so hard to suppress past memories. For some people, it takes longer to recover than for others.

Hi laure. I realize that there is no cookie-cutter solution. That's the reason why there's so many solutions out there in the world -- and of course you can't just instantly ignore the past and move on. We both know that. And of course it varies how long it takes for someone to recover.

And past memories are reasons why some disorders can eat someone up, I get it. But when you get the help, the easier it is to cope, and you find new methods to cope.

I hope you understand I'm not trying to be ignorant, but rather, spread the positivity and the message that you can better when you work at it, and stay positive.

Happy Holidays :)
 
Meet some people and find friends.

Do you realize you are suggesting something to people that suffer from social anxiety that usually strikes fear and terror in their minds at just the thought of it!?:eek:h:

Don't get yourself so down. If you need anybody to talk too, please call this number, even if you want to talk about ANYTHING: Boys Town National Hotline, 24/7, 1-800-448-3000 or go to Home.

ah, I was waiting for it. You don't work for Boys Town or operate that website do you by any chance?
 

KiaKaha

Banned
Whilst I admire the noble intent of your posting - I am afraid that the pep talk simply is not enough. I could refute and explain exactly why I feel this way, and perhaps I will one day... but as for now I only have the energy to say that the sentiments expressed only scratches the surface for many anxiety sufferers.
 
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