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kc1296426

Active member
Whilst I admire the noble intent of your posting - I am afraid that the pep talk simply is not enough. I could refute and explain exactly why I feel this way, and perhaps I will one day... but as for now I only have the energy to say that the sentiments expressed only scratches the surface for many anxiety sufferers.

The thing is that when you have some disorders, it can be impossible to explain what you are going thru. I think sometimes that's the point, because if you were able to explain, then why would you have the disorder in the first place?

Know that you can get better. There is a huge light at the end of the tunnel for anyone suffering, you just need to start out and trying different ways of getting better (that is healthy).

I believe in you, I really do
 

kc1296426

Active member
Do you realize you are suggesting something to people that suffer from social anxiety that usually strikes fear and terror in their minds at just the thought of it!?:eek:h:



ah, I was waiting for it. You don't work for Boys Town or operate that website do you by any chance?

I'm sorry that it struck fear in you. I probably shouldn't have left that in there.

And no, surprisingly. I am actually an 18 year old sitting in my dorm while most people spend time with their families during the holidays. But I'm here sitting here helping strangers online instead of smoking, partying, or being with family. I don't mean this in a negative way to make you feel worse, I'm just saying that there is alot of other activities I could be doing but I choose to respond and potentially help someone who was deep in mental illness like I was at one point.

Have you read this article? I think it could potentially help you see "the big picture" and spark some of that fire of motivation inside of you. Motivation and Mental Health | All Things Depression
 
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Gadfly

Well-known member
The thing is that when you have some disorders, it can be impossible to explain what you are going thru. I think sometimes that's the point, because if you were able to explain, then why would you have the disorder in the first place?

This is a confused bit of thinking. The ability to explain a disorder doesn't obviate it.
 

Gadfly

Well-known member
My apologies. I thought you were an adult shilling for another site. I'll relent. You're a very well spoken, if cloyingly positive, young man. Kudos.
 

Hellhound

Super Moderator
"Your brother just cares about you"

BAHAHAHA. Good one.

My brother has told me that he hates me and wants me dead. You know nothing about me.

About that phone number, I don't live in America, and we don't have that kind of support where I am. Besides, talking to a random stranger doesn't help me at all.
 

kc1296426

Active member
"Your brother just cares about you"

BAHAHAHA. Good one.

My brother has told me that he hates me and wants me dead. You know nothing about me.

About that phone number, I don't live in America, and we don't have that kind of support where I am. Besides, talking to a random stranger doesn't help me at all.

There are many hotlines in your country, I'm sure. Wherever you are from.

And you don't know that man.

And why doesn't it help you? Who cares if it's a random stranger, it's a human, that cares about another human... we're all human, it doesn't matter if they're a stranger or not. Tell them how you feel, they are there to help you and not judge you.

Honestly, I can tell you as many things as I can. You are truly the one who will decide if you are going to help yourself or not. I don't mean that in a negative way, I mean that in a positive, real, way. I can only point you in so many directions if you don't want to get better or want to try
 

gustavofring

Well-known member
I agree with this thread, even though I don't know wether this is actually a way to lure people to some website or hotline. Even if it is there's still some truth to the message. Trying to adopt a positive attitude as a mindset can be very helpful in order to work at getting ahead and moving on in life.

But some people here are so negative, they could walk into a dark room and start to develop. No offense. But the amount of resistance, cynism and snarky comments (even though some are humorous) to positivity is just depressing. There is always some hope, no matter how bad things get!
 

KiaKaha

Banned
The thing is that when you have some disorders, it can be impossible to explain what you are going thru. I think sometimes that's the point, because if you were able to explain, then why would you have the disorder in the first place?

Know that you can get better. There is a huge light at the end of the tunnel for anyone suffering, you just need to start out and trying different ways of getting better (that is healthy).

I believe in you, I really do

Thanks pal. I am 34 have had social anxiety disorder and depression most of my life. I know what I am talking about.
 

kc1296426

Active member
I agree with this thread, even though I don't know wether this is actually a way to lure people to some website or hotline. Even if it is there's still some truth to the message. Trying to adopt a positive attitude as a mindset can be very helpful in order to work at getting ahead and moving on in life.

But some people here are so negative, they could walk into a dark room and start to develop. No offense. But the amount of resistance, cynism and snarky comments (even though some are humorous) to positivity is just depressing. There is always some hope, no matter how bad things get!

I'm sorry if I seem like some weird robot guy trying to lure people into giving away money. I'm not that person you're thinking of, I just literally genuinely want to help other people because it can make feel better and also potentially help you.

Like with anything in life, you should have your own opinion and judgement on something, but positivity will be a huge key in someone's success. Using that positivity can also help greatly thru-ought life in whatever you do as well.
 

gustavofring

Well-known member
It's mostly the thread title. It seems like generic stuff you get in scam mails.

*******$$BECOME A MILLIONAIRE NOW$$*******************
*******STOP BEING A BAD LOVER- VIAGRA NEW OFFERS **********

:giggle:

But it's okay.
 

w*n*c*a*m

Well-known member
I know I have SA although not diagnosed. But the cost of finding a therapist is just too much. And in some ways I can't imagine myself getting rid of anxiety at all. Maybe I'll improve but I believe that the only way I'll get treated is if my entire brain mechanism is fixed. I think SA is more of a biological problem. I'm not saying medication is the key because it's just a temporary cure. If there's some kind of futuristic surgery that'll mold the screwed part of my brain, maybe I won't have SA anymore. But the genes? I just hope my poor kids don't get my SA trait.
 

Hellhound

Super Moderator
I love how some believe they know more about me and my family than myself.

It reminds me of when I told my parents that kids at school called me fat and hit me, and they told me "they do it because they like you!"

Because a brother that is 13 years older than you that beat you on a daily basis for no reason, tossed knives at you, told you that you had no rights, tried to iron your face, to burn your hand on the stove, cornenered you and threatened you with an axe cares about you a lot, amirite?

Sorry, I'm touchy about this topic.
 
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KiaKaha

Banned
I just don't usually respond well to over the top positivity or 'just change your attitude' and 'get over it' type advice - because I don't think it works, and I also think it is a little uncaring. I think it is important to acknowledge and discuss ones pain - I think it is important to allow people to focus on the problem as well as the solution. I also think the complexity of ones problems, their personality and how they feel about the world and their own life is not as simple as an all encompassing solution as the OP suggests. It is important encourage but also to allow carthatic release and accomodation - while being careful to not disempower - and I think that that is fine line many people can't find.
 
I just don't usually respond well to over the top positivity or 'just change your attitude' and 'get over it' type advice - because I don't think it works, and I also think it is a little uncaring. I think it is important to acknowledge and discuss ones pain - I think it is important to allow people to focus on the problem as well as the solution. I also think the complexity of ones problems, their personality and how they feel about the world and their own life is not as simple as an all encompassing solution as the OP suggests. It is important encourage but also to allow carthatic release and accomodation - while being careful to not disempower - and I think that that is fine line many people can't find.

^Well said.

I also think that when someone comes along and states that all you have to do is tick all the boxes and you will be better, this makes the person who HAS ticked all the boxes and is STILL not better feel worse. Reason being that it implies failure in someone who usually battles a low self-esteem in the first place.
 

hoddesdon

Well-known member
And before you suggest CBT, the only doctor here that offers it charges $3000 PER SESSION.

Don't even think of suggesting me that.

You say that you do not live in America. If you live in Britain it is free under the universal health service, and in other places some universities offer it at reduced cost. Perhaps if you searched the Internet you may be able to find a course that is affordable. Mental health organizations may also have information about that.

I think the OP is genuinely trying to help.
 

Hellhound

Super Moderator
You say that you do not live in America. If you live in Britain it is free under the universal health service, and in other places some universities offer it at reduced cost. Perhaps if you searched the Internet you may be able to find a course that is affordable. Mental health organizations may also have information about that.

I think the OP is genuinely trying to help.

Not in Britain either. I'm kind of isolated from the world.
I've looked everywhere. SA is not something easy to treat, Depression is "cured" with pills, if you show any other symptoms that look difficult to deal with, then you're schizophrenic. This is the stone age.

I know they're trying to help, but that kind of advice is going to tick some people off. It's not that easy. It all depends on each individual's situation, the same advice is not going to work for everyone.
 

crazycatlady27

Well-known member
i have been through a lot of treatments and some work some dont, but there was one book i was reading that helped me no end, and the first thing he says is accept it, stop fighting it. your mind and body have to use a lot of energy fighting anxiety and panic and then you have to get through a normal day. so rather than use that extra energy fighting all the time, just accept it and give your mind a rest. find a place to relax for five minutes a day, and stop trying to find the ultimate cure, because you wont find it, its not out there !!! the only real thing you can do is take it one day at a time learn to reduce or manage your stress and depression, learn to relax and ACCEPT IT :)
i have and i am a lot happier, i dont care if someone sees me having a panic attack or flapping around like a demented chicken lol
and if someone asks questions i tell them straight what i have and usually it goes away after 15 mins
you could be surprised about how many people suffer something simular to you
 
I like seeing threads like this. Positive, hopeful, uplifting, direct. Similar to those recent "kick-ass" threads on here. Makes a change from the usual doom'n'gloom stuff on here.

Sometimes this site (like all other "support" sites out there) can be quite helpful/useful. But most of time it is just "ho-hum", which i'm not complaining about at all, as it's simply the nature of such a site. It's certainly not a place to expect will "magically makes ones dreams come true". Mostly it's just bread'n'butter problems, complaining, etc, etc. And most of one's posts get totally ignored, which doesn't really help with the ol' self-esteem. But occasionally you read the odd really good thread or post, and gain some useful support.
But yeah, i am finding i've been drifting away from here. Been finding better ways to spend my time i guess (such as indulging in my interests & passions, rather than reading about other people's problems).

I get the sense you (OP) are kind of focussed on the "problem" of social anxiety. Personally i don't see it as a problem, and never really have. It's just one of my "issues", which comes-and-goes, and i seldom experience any suffering due to it nowadays (my AvPD allows me that, & neither do i see my AvPD as a problem to be resolved). I tend to look at hapiness as something which is independent of the social aspect of life (which for me is practically zero). I have no desire to ever become a "normal, sociable person". That idea does absolutely nothing for me, and is not who i am at all. So i'm "happy" being unsociable, unlikeable, keeping to myself, outside even the fringes of society. I'm used to it. I've accepted it. So it's not a problem. Maybe it used to be in my distant past, but not anymore.
 
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