Faking it-No More

ImNotMyIllness

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SullyS25. You're not helping so can you please quite commenting. I'm glad you're cured. I don't like sales but it is the easiest type of job do with my degree. Unfortunately, my talents and desires put me in an environment where I have to work with very social people.
 
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sullyS25

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SullyS25. You're not helping so can you please quite commenting. I'm glad you're cured. I don't like sales but it is the easiest type of job do with my degree. Unfortunately, my talents and desires but me in an environment where I have to work with very social people.

Again with that victim mentality ehhh? You're right I'm not helping but what you have been doing up until now has been huh?

I never said I'm cured either, I still struggle but I recognize and accept that there are other ways of viewing things. I am done.
 

ImNotMyIllness

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Good for you! My way of dealing with my SA is to be upfront and honest with myself and others so that they can have a better understanding of my behaviors.
 

Lowlight

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Good for you! My way of dealing with my SA is to be upfront and honest with myself and others so that they can have a better understanding of my behaviors.

From what you have said I don’t think you are a glory hungry person who achieves all self-worth through status and rank. Judgments like those shouldn’t be made by someone who has never met you.

What would happen if I go walking down the street smiling at everyone I pass? Most people I meet would likely smile back, while others may frown or just stare. Those who smile back probably do so because they have associated smiling with friendliness and warmth. Those who didn’t smile might think I am a creep or something to that effect. The fact of the matter is though, that a calculable number of people did smile, and a calculable number of people didn’t.

If throughout life you have seen a pattern where more people have treated you one way rather than another, it shouldn’t be crazy if you want to examine what might be a possible cause of it.

People can make a judgment about your being quiet and reserved in just the same way they can about your smiling. Society has trained us from the start that certain behaviors are indicative of what kind of a person we are. These are situations where our outlook has no control over how people will treat us. What we can do is try to better ourselves all while keeping things in perspective.
 

ImNotMyIllness

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Thank you Lowlight. I am being bold, not making excuses but helping others understand me better so that I can better communicate and work with them. I think once people understand why I do the things that I do, they won't take it offensively.
I do like people and I want to socialize more. This will help out a lot. :)
 

ImNotMyIllness

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Exactly Lucidiotic. My SA can cause OCD like ticks. My doctor said that I have a chemical imbalance in my brain. It's important people know so that they won't take it personally.
 

jaim38

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@Jaim38
.......Should I tell this to a potential employer? They're going to realize it later on anyway. Plus, I need to preemptively explain my behavior in the interview.

Telling your potential employer that you have SA is very risky because there's a high chance you might not get hired. Pretty much every job today requires good interpersonal and communication skills.

If you really want to tell your employer about your SA, you should consider doing so after you get hired, not before. But think about the risks; you might get passed up for promotions to managerial positions later on because managers are required to have good social skills for dealing with different types of people, but since you mentioned that you have SA, they will think you're not a good fit.
 
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tizzy

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Sulley, have you ever heard of "The Secret?" I really got into that once....developed the frame of mind....totally believing and expecting good things to happen for me. I lived it for about 6 weeks. Guess what? people still treated me the same (and I totally convinced they would not)
Still rejection. Still invisible. Still ignored. Still didn't fit in.
Whatever you did to turn your life around, I'm very happy for you, but it does not mean your theory works on everybody. In fact, I find it degrading....and I was not expecting that on this site.
I react positively to compassion and TLC.
Good luck in your future
 

ImNotMyIllness

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Well stated Tizzy! One size definitely does not fit all! Each persons SA (and other illnesses) is a make up of biology and experiences. This is the same reason that not all medications work for everyone, we all respond differently. What works for you, may not work for me etc.
I have SA, OCD and Depression. My OCD and SA work together in public environments making social interactions very difficult. But, I am committed to improve. I am no longer putting my head in the sand and pretending that I don't have a problem or that it's all in my head.....it, is all in my head-Literally. A popcorn machine of chemicals that need to be regulated. I am taking prozac, if that doesn't work I will search for another medicine. I am also thinking about therapy to talk to a QUALIFIED professional. (AKA Psychiatrist).
 

gazelle

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I'm very happy for you, but it does not mean your theory works on everybody. In fact, I find it degrading....and I was not expecting that on this site.

^This. SA isn't just a misconception disorder that's going to be cured by denying the problem and telling yourself you don't have it .That's definitely unrealistic. Just like ImNotMyIllness said it can also be due to physical factors like chemical imbalances in the brain. It's also more of a physical factor for me being my autoimmune disease that causes my SA.
 

sullyS25

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Sulley, have you ever heard of "The Secret?" I really got into that once....developed the frame of mind....totally believing and expecting good things to happen for me. I lived it for about 6 weeks. Guess what? people still treated me the same (and I totally convinced they would not)
Still rejection. Still invisible. Still ignored. Still didn't fit in.
Whatever you did to turn your life around, I'm very happy for you, but it does not mean your theory works on everybody. In fact, I find it degrading....and I was not expecting that on this site.
I react positively to compassion and TLC.
Good luck in your future


Yes I have seen the secret and guess what, you did exactly what they said most people do....You got impatient and gave up. You expected results in 6 weeks? We have been programmed to think like this for years yet you think 6 weeks of thinking a different way is going to change your life? But I guess going back to old habits and expecting people to coddle you has worked in the past right? Playing the helpless victim helps everyone get what they want. You know, sitting back and complaining about how the world doesn't see you the way you want while you cant even see yourself the way you want.....Those are great expectations to hold everyone else to when you cannot even meet them.

I started this path 2 years ago and I still find it difficult and I certainly didn't see many changes in just 6 WEEKS. 6 WEEKS is nothing compared to the years and years of physical and verbal abuse I endured that helped teach me to play the victim, question myself and my self. But I have seen changes and they came as a result of some hard work and taking responsibility for the way I see the world. I cannot control how others react, I can only control how I do so I work on MY perception which was and still is flawed.

The secret is hardly the tip of the ice berg of what I have found Tizzy. There is no cure all for this condition and I agree it can be a bitch but guess what, if I want to see CHANGE in my life I have to STOP playing the victim and start looking at what I CAN DO TO CHANGE THINGS. Because sitting back and complaining and waiting for the world to change while I sit back and do nothing will result in a lot more of the same SH IT.
 

ImNotMyIllness

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No one is complaining Sully. We're discussing our problems. You gave advice, we disagree, move on! You're not a doctor or psychologist. I'll take their diagnosis before yours. And that diagnosis was SA, OCD and Depression. I'm now taking medication as I was prescribed.
 

hardy

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Simple solution would be not give a tiny rat's ar** to what other people think about our anxiety....keep on observing self. Those who are judgmental will judge us anyways...and those who don't, we will never come across.
 

ImNotMyIllness

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I see your point Hardy. Your right. It's very important not to let people get to you. But, in my case where I may have "tick" (hard to explain it) like symptoms, an explanation helps. People are far more empathetic when you let them know where you're coming from...but, at the same time, you can't let judgmental people get you down.
I see it as building bridges.....
 

crazycatlady27

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i am sometimes scared to show who i really am as i get that look, the puzzeled "i have no idea what you are " look , and it kinda hurts. but as i have gotten older i have found it takes more energy to put of the happy confident woman face, so i have just excepted who i am what i am and the hell to anyone who does not like it. i cut negative people out of my life now
 

sullyS25

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No one is complaining Sully. We're discussing our problems. You gave advice, we disagree, move on! You're not a doctor or psychologist. I'll take their diagnosis before yours. And that diagnosis was SA, OCD and Depression. I'm now taking medication as I was prescribed.

The definition of complain is as follows: to express grief, pain or discontent. That is all I see in your posts.

You're right, I'm not a doctor or a psychologist. I don't benefit from the fact that you are suffering. You don't pay me to tell you that you are chemically, socially and psychologically different from your peers and I certainly don't receive proceeds to prescribe you SSRI's whose side effects can result in even worse depression and anxiety, suicidal and/or homicidal thoughts and many others. If I was one though it sure would suck if I actually helped you and you overcame your issues because then I wouldn't get paid! I have however, experienced the exact same feelings as thoughts as you have and I have improved enormously. You don't think I was as bad as you are regarding social anxiety? How bout I share a bit of my story and we will see.

I grew up getting beat physically and abused verbally on a daily basis. If I chewed to loud I would get reprimanded and criticized verbally. If I didn't act the way I was expected to act on a daily basis I would get my ass beat by my brother. I learned from a very early age that I was worthless.

When I was 11 years old I drank alcohol for the first time and I loved it because all my anxiety issues disappeared. 3 years later I smoked pot for the first time. In high school I didn't have many friends and the ones I did have were misfits. My drinking continually increased and it felt good at social gatherings because like I said my anxiety disappeared and everything was good. My senior year I was getting drunk and high every day, when my friends couldnt hang out, I started drinking alone in my room. When I went to college I wanted to rush a fraternity because of the drinking culture but was too afraid of being rejected. So I resorted to drinking alone most of the time. I got to the point where I would get drunk every night alone in my room. I would sleep all day except when I would leave to go get some fast food for my hangover and after eating it I would go back to bed. I gained 60 lbs in college. One day I decided alcohol wasn't good enough and started taking oxycontin. Oxycontin was so much nicer because my anxiety disappeared and there was no hangover involved. When I was hooked on OC and couldn't find any to buy, I would resort to smoking heroin. My excuse for doing this was because of my social anxiety and depression and towards the end I thought about killing myself daily. Then I went to rehab and maintained that I was different and relapsed immediately. Sex life? NONE. I lost my virginity to a hooker in the red light district of Amsterdam. Finally I went to another rehab and found that there are other ways of looking at life that don't involve limiting myself by saying I have social anxiety.

I have been sober for 27 months. Before I went to rehab I was living in the basement of my parents house and only leaving to buy drugs and/or alcohol. Today I am living in Spain and TEACH ENGLISH. That means I stand in front of a classroom of students all day where the attention is on me for 50 minutes at a time. I set aside my self doubt daily to communicate in spanish which is not my native language but is necessary to know in the little town of Galicia, Spain that I live in. I am happy and I have developed some great friendships and even found a girlfriend. I am free and I dont limit myself by hiding behind a label of social anxiety like I used to on a daily basis.

Your screen name is I'm not my illness but after this conversation I can safely say that you think you are your illness. You will go to any lengths to defend the fact that you are chemically and psychologically different than anyone else and you lash out at anyone that tells you otherwise. You label these things as problems which makes me believe you dont like them yet you are unwilling to consider other viewpoints because you define yourself by your social anxiety. You get offended if someone tells you that it isnt that bad because you truly believe it is a part of you. I understand, I've been there and it is difficult.

You may not agree with me and that is fine, I am not saying you should. This forum is not yours however and maybe others will benefit from what I am sharing. If not, I will continue to share my truth because it is my right as a fellow sufferer of Social Phobia.

I wish you the best.
 
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