JamesSmith
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Rembrandt Broam
You're right that it isn't fair, but even in 2011 society in general expects that men do the pursuing. The point I was making was that both sides have their positives and negatives. As the guy, you have the choice of who to approach and how many women you approach (which allows you to control the chances of getting a date) but the downside is that you have to put yourself out there and deal with the possibility of rejection.
Yes women can do the approaching, but even in this day and age they risk some men interpreting that as meaning they are either easy or desperate. It's far more socially acceptable for them to wait to be approached, but that means they can only pick from whoever approaches them.
Yes, the downside is that you have to put yourself out there and risk rejection, well that's the whole point I was trying to make: that's a huge freakin downside! That barrier that men have to break is much higher than the one that you mentioned women have to break which is worrying about being "easy."
And once again, I would love for having to choose between the women that approach me if they did. That would make things so much easier.
Which leaves them in exactly the same position that you are complaining that SAD men are in. No relationship.
No. So you are saying if these women go out enough, that they should just give up after they get approached by a few losers and bums? This seems like a very pessimistic attitude and is totally untrue. If women gave up on having men approach them and just stopped going out, you wouldn't see 96% of people getting married in their lifetime which is what the percentage is statistically. Women don't give up, and they definitely don't need to cuz they know that men will always approach them, and there is always some guy out there that will approach next.
Why would you assume that women with SA go out into society? Most guys with SA don't seem to, so why should women be any different? I disagree that a woman's life with SA is easier than a man's. I do think they each face different issues, but I don't think one gender has it harder or easier than the other.
Because I believe the world is kinder to women with SA. I already talked about this earlier in this thread, read my post that starts "Oh, wow. I can't believe you went there." I discuss my thoughts on why men have it harder socially. I know I'm not a woman, so you are going to say I can't speak for them, but I think if I was a woman, I'd be going out and sitting at a bar and just livin it up with all the men that approach me.
Forget about the bar fight statement. I didn't explain that well. What I was saying is that society thinks hitting woman is this terrible thing, but if two guys hit eachother it's just two men mad at eachother.
You're right that it isn't fair, but even in 2011 society in general expects that men do the pursuing. The point I was making was that both sides have their positives and negatives. As the guy, you have the choice of who to approach and how many women you approach (which allows you to control the chances of getting a date) but the downside is that you have to put yourself out there and deal with the possibility of rejection.
Yes women can do the approaching, but even in this day and age they risk some men interpreting that as meaning they are either easy or desperate. It's far more socially acceptable for them to wait to be approached, but that means they can only pick from whoever approaches them.
Yes, the downside is that you have to put yourself out there and risk rejection, well that's the whole point I was trying to make: that's a huge freakin downside! That barrier that men have to break is much higher than the one that you mentioned women have to break which is worrying about being "easy."
And once again, I would love for having to choose between the women that approach me if they did. That would make things so much easier.
Which leaves them in exactly the same position that you are complaining that SAD men are in. No relationship.
No. So you are saying if these women go out enough, that they should just give up after they get approached by a few losers and bums? This seems like a very pessimistic attitude and is totally untrue. If women gave up on having men approach them and just stopped going out, you wouldn't see 96% of people getting married in their lifetime which is what the percentage is statistically. Women don't give up, and they definitely don't need to cuz they know that men will always approach them, and there is always some guy out there that will approach next.
Why would you assume that women with SA go out into society? Most guys with SA don't seem to, so why should women be any different? I disagree that a woman's life with SA is easier than a man's. I do think they each face different issues, but I don't think one gender has it harder or easier than the other.
Because I believe the world is kinder to women with SA. I already talked about this earlier in this thread, read my post that starts "Oh, wow. I can't believe you went there." I discuss my thoughts on why men have it harder socially. I know I'm not a woman, so you are going to say I can't speak for them, but I think if I was a woman, I'd be going out and sitting at a bar and just livin it up with all the men that approach me.
Forget about the bar fight statement. I didn't explain that well. What I was saying is that society thinks hitting woman is this terrible thing, but if two guys hit eachother it's just two men mad at eachother.
