Now is the time where I clean up what I wrote earlier. I kind of stereotyped a bit when I said that all women sit back and wait, because that isn't always the case. I would imagine that some outgoing women believe in making the first move so that the can pick who they want. What's horrible is that the dating world isn't balanced, which is a big complaint I have. What I mean by that is there shouldn't be one sex just dominating the first move like there is with men trying to hit on women 90% of the time. Both sexes want to be in relationships equally for the most part, yet the majority of women refuse to make that first move just because they know they can use men to do it for them. I think it's incredibly hypocritical and leaves men like me alone, possibly for the rest of my life. It makes zero sense considering women are such social creatures, even more social than men are.
You're right that it isn't fair, but even in 2011 society in general expects that men do the pursuing. The point I was making was that both sides have their positives and negatives. As the guy, you have the choice of who to approach and how many women you approach (which allows you to control the chances of getting a date) but the downside is that you have to put yourself out there and deal with the possibility of rejection.
Yes women can do the approaching, but even in this day and age they risk some men interpreting that as meaning they are either easy or desperate. It's far more socially acceptable for them to wait to be approached, but that means they can only pick from whoever approaches them.
Please don't give me the thing how women have to be chased by "losers and bums." Boo hoo. All they have to do is say no.
Which leaves them in exactly the same position that you are complaining that SAD men are in. No relationship.
This just proves that they have more options too. I would love if I had so many women hitting on me that I had to cancel out the "losers and bums."
But you're looking at it as if women get approached by a wide variety of guys. I'm sure some do, but a lot don't. Some women do not get approached at all. Ever. Others get approached by unsuitable men. There are guys who are on the lookout for timid women with low self-esteem. They are like predators and they know how to spot their prey. That's how women get trapped into bad relationships with abusive men.
Yes, I would assume that women go out into society. And yes, I get that some women have social anxiety, especially in these threads. But I also believe a woman's life w/ social anxiety is so much easier than a man's life with social anxiety.
Why would you assume that women with SA go out into society? Most guys with SA don't seem to, so why should women be any different? I disagree that a woman's life with SA is easier than a man's. I
do think they each face different issues, but I don't think one gender has it harder or easier than the other.
Haven't you noticed it's usually the men that get into bar fights? As I talked about earlier in this thread, society views hitting a woman as terribly wrong, but a man vs. man bar fight is classified as normal.
I'm not really sure what bar fights have to do with it. I've never been in a bar fight, nor would I classify them as normal.
The last sentence i wrote was an overexaggeration and you caught me on that. You're right, men with SAD can get into relationships and we all aren't screwed. I was just pointing out how difficult we have it compared to your average joe.
Well if you're comparing the situation that SAD men face compared to that of non-SAD men, then I'd agree that non-SAD men have it easier, but then non-SAD people in general have it easier.
:. It’s like since you're shy and quiet, they expect you to always be that way even when they hurt your feelings. To me it’s like they're taking advantage of you. Once you had enough of it and start to stand up for yourself, they get piss off (I guess b/c they're scared) at you. This happens to me from my family, friends and co workers plenty of times.
