What do you live for, when there is nothing to live for?

I don't think it's offensive and I'm no where near hardcore christian.
She wasn't forcing the guy to read the bible...just advising.

i think some just don't want that kind of advice - like it's the only answer - & just really don't even want to hear it.

peanutsmum said:

^this is so offensive on so many levels

On the same token, I'm offended that you took what I said out of context. -If you were to read the entire post, it's only offensive to someone that feels no-one has a right to believe and to voice that belief, if it differs from their own.

Only when we have tolerance and respect for others views, do we have freedoms.

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Hmm I shortened it because it was long. The whole thing was even more offensive.I find the whole religion thing irritating. It is irrelevant in this post.

Jewel said:

I find the whole religion thing irritating. It is irrelevant in this post.

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i have to agree with you. there's many who depend completely on religion, & those of us who don't will never understand it.

tenuous~hold said:

i have to agree with you. there's many who depend completely on religion, & those of us who don't will never understand it.

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the same can be said of Green Bay Packers fans

PipsMcClawski said:

Its a part of humanity. We have been using religions to give us explanation to the unexplained ever since we formed language to communicate. Its just that a lot of the old world reasoning have been outdated by science and tech that a lot of people now cant seem to comprehend it. I mean honestly, if you didnt have scientist to tell you how the universe works what would you do? Would you really dedicate hours of your life to discovering all these things and testing them yourself, or would you do like most people and listen to the smartest person with the loudest voice?

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I have a fascination with religion and science.But I think that advice was downright insulting but also irrelevant to the question. .... But then maybe Im wrong. Maybe it is practical afterall...maybe when the poster wakes up in the morning God will have left him a voicemail explaining the answer....

This thread is about a hurting person asking for advice on how to stop hurting. No where did he say "only participate if you are part of the Politically Correct Crowd".

If he had, I wouldn't have said a thing.

It's not right to deviate away from the topic in order to make a personal argument..That's disrespectful and rude.

PipsMcClawski said:

Im not saying its practical, just not to take offense to it because its just advice. The OP can take it or just completely disregard it. I mean it could be worse, it could be the advice like Ive gotten in the past like "you just need to let it go" or "just smile!" e_e

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haha You are more patient than me pips

Advice yes...but I don't consider this to be advice:

Nowadays since God has become controversial instead of a given, people have no real hope. So when life becomes too hard to cope, they so much more often, these days, resort to suicide when finding out antidepressants are only a short time relief at best.

That's dangerous ground we have come to in our society because we all experience times of extreme hardship whether it be a lost love, no friends, no money, or illness...It's inevitable and no-one is the exception.

Obviously, I advice reading the Bible and asking God in earnest, for help... Good luck to you.

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Let's call a spade a spade here ^ this is a religious rant that is full of assumptions.

^ i think you should just smile and let it go

hehe sorry I'm Irish we're fiery.

I think life is pointless, too. We all die eventually, and our accomplishments don't come with us. They stay on earth, away from us. The same with our failures.

All I can tell you is that you should do what you can to enjoy life. Happiness and fun feel good.

TucanSam said:

I have very few friends, and none I would call close (in proximity or in relation). I have a job, and school, but have no drive to really do anything anymore. I recently lost the great love of my life, and have a hard time imagining ever loving again. It's been about a year and a half since I broke up with her, and I still have not found myself over her. I used to enjoy writing, drawing, singing, but just dont have a passion for those anymore. I am on antidepressants, but they don't seem to be making things better. I think about suicide everyday. Not in a, I want to kill myself way, but in a Why should I keep living sort of way. I just don't really see much of a point to life anymore. There isnt really anything I havent done that I want to, or think I'll have the chance to do. does anyone else struggle with this?

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I have, and it has passed. I was hospitalized three times in a psych ward...not something I'm proud of but it happened & made me gain perspective...I suspect it will come back one day, as for me at least I think it's something that comes and goes. Life had some very sad things for me during my teenage years, so I can relate to your sense of loss. I think one thing I can say for myself (for why I feel in general at least a bit better in recent days) is because my coping skills have changed.

Before to cope I would cut myself or do something irrational like run away or stuff my face w junk food or have sex with someone i didn't even love, and now (though occasionally I still cut, but veryyy occasionally) I have better coping skills--I'll go for a walk in the woods, write in a journal, listen to music or just try to get up and do something when I sense I'm feeling depressed. I just want to avoid that feeling, rather than search for it, like I used to do.

I'm not saying I never feel depressed anymore, I do...but I've gotten so much more healthier. Mental health is like physical health...it comes and it goes. And sometimes it can get better if you help it by treating yourself nice.

So I don't know if it will pass for you now or much much later, but I hope it will pass. In the meantime, though you may not feel like it...i would really suggest to get yourself moving for at least half hour everyday, even if its gentle movements like walking. I would suggest to walk in a quiet place (for me I walk in the woods w my dogs). Even though there have been times I don't want to budge when I'm depressed, if you do it trust me you'll feel better. Also I had a complex about losing weight...I used to be thin but after a trauma, I gained a lot of weight and didn't want to lose it I think as a defense mechanism. So yes, starting walking again was very difficult for me psychologically. So I think you should try it slow too. Or something like it.

OceanMist said:

I think life is pointless, too. We all die eventually, and our accomplishments don't come with us. They stay on earth, away from us. The same with our failures.

All I can tell you is that you should do what you can to enjoy life. Happiness and fun feel good.

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I guess-but who can say what really happens to us after we die?

If the Bible and the many scientists .. (I assure you, all the qualified one's are not in agreement that we came from a big bang).. are right, our body dies but our spirit never dies.. So the question would be, what happens to our spirit?

If those that ascribe to the big bang theory are correct.. nothing happens to us, we just die and it's as if we had never lived after everyone that knew us dies as well..

What other choice could there be?

Etbow23 said:

Mental health is like physical health...it comes and it goes.

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I like this.

i would really suggest to get yourself moving for at least half hour everyday

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When I'm down I want to do nothing but curl up at the bottom of my bed. But I try to be disciplined about getting out for an hour's walk each day, because it makes such a noticeable difference to my mood, my sleep, my digestion, my outlook... if nothing else it makes me feel that I've accomplished something with my day.

peanutsmum said:

Nowadays since God has become controversial instead of a given, people have no real hope. So when life becomes too hard to cope, they so much more often, these days, resort to suicide when finding out antidepressants are only a short time relief at best.

That's dangerous ground we have come to in our society because we all experience times of extreme hardship whether it be a lost love, no friends, no money, or illness...It's inevitable and no-one is the exception.

Obviously, I advice reading the Bible and asking God in earnest, for help... Good luck to you.

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there's nothing wrong with this except a hint of bible bashing at the end.
I agree with her anyway because the modern world is getting further from spirituality every day anyway. Here we are communicating like this..cyber friendships a poor substitute for real relationships..that's alienation and as far as I 'm concerned we do need toget back to the basics before technology gobbles us all up.
Oh...I feel much better now!!

peanutsmum said:

Nowadays since God has become controversial instead of a given, people have no real hope. So when life becomes too hard to cope, they so much more often, these days, resort to suicide when finding out antidepressants are only a short time relief at best.

That's dangerous ground we have come to in our society because we all experience times of extreme hardship whether it be a lost love, no friends, no money, or illness...It's inevitable and no-one is the exception.

Obviously, I advice reading the Bible and asking God in earnest, for help... Good luck to you.

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I understand what you mean. God doesn't just mean Christianity, it means the bigger picture/the greater power that makes life beautiful. I'm not religious but I depend on that also... It's not a negative thing to depend on that. Finding spirituality and a greater purpose can help a person a lot

I found facing my own mortality frightening. When faced with serious physical and mental illness it scared the crap out of me. I decided I wanted to live very badly. I fought and found a reason to live.

I have nothing to live for. I've stopped caring about life honestly.
I'm only here physically, but dead mentally.

I try to live for nothing. It can be freeing in a way if you let go. Knowing there's nothing to live for and no matter what you do you're going to eventually die anyway...there's a certain beauty in that. You can be whoever you want to be and make good and bad choices...you'll still die in the end. It's nice to take pleasure in the insignificant things about life even knowing you've got nothing to live for. Nothing to live for but choosing to keep living to see what happens next.