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Hi,

I am back again on the forums... I'm doing much better than now, its my 5th month now boxing and I was on a hot date with a girl last wednesday but she ended up being a player so i walked away.. Demons of the past still haunt me but I control them much much better than before.



I was discussing things with a friend of mine about how the world has changed after the fall of the USSR... and how societies have been impacted after the cold war era on a world wide scale.. Along with how globalization affected societies world wide..

I believe that we are living in a pointlessly complicated world where mind games and mixed signals are part of life. Life has become so easy, luxurious and comfortable for many people but still many feel disturbed and unhappy about it... I mean if you look at previous generations that lived in a world where wars or revolutions could happen anytime and where people have causes and beliefs that unite them together...

Nowadays people in many cities around the world live a comfortable life that they get pretty bored and feel that life is hollow and dull..

Its like every generation needs a cause or a revolution to give it a meaning otherwise people will do nothing but spend money to close this gap they go it life and to run away from the negative feelings that haunt all of us in life..

Do enlighten me if im wrong...

Honda

This is potent!

Haven't heard anything like this for a while.

Personally, I am very rebellious to society. It's a lack of lacklustre that holds me back. I can't rely on lawful conditions, insurance, etc... holding me back. I can't find a person to bounce off. Everyone just follows the fold, as a sheep, and I am not allowed to show my light, speaking out with a spark, away from tradition. I must abide by the terms & conditions & the small print. I don't have time to read small print, and I assume it would be reasonable... but it's harsh.

You're right.

I was set to fly for the stars. I had an engrained passion for achievement, and that's not going away. But one on this planet must unbendingly 'fit in' with all others. I remember the early times of 'freedom of speech' - perhaps we now are in the way of USSR? I have to play ball with employers and with girlfriends. That ain't gonna happen. I'd be better off as a stand-up comic on stage, speaking my own mind, mocking society, but.... oohhh! No! One must abide the rules of Her Majesty's will!

I knew I was not an artist, but I love looking at arkwork - on canvas or in the street. I have a deep passion for music, but it ain't Brit Spears or Kylie or Madonna or any gagged ladies. Only disturbing for the ears. The only one conduit I have left to express myself would be to produce some meaningful books where no man has ever gone before; that ain't no starship; it's what goes on inside a mammalian brain. After the worldwide take-up of my books, I will star in my associated movies, as myself.

So.....a scatty society... uuurrrgghhh... boooooorring... cup'o' t. Watch TV. Ohh yeah.

Building a new suspension bridge is something I'd like to do. Designing a control system for driverless buses to replace trams in Eindhoven. My life revolves round a need to achieve something nobody else has or ever will. A tune. A splash of hybrid / mongrel Dulux colour.

Nobody lets me. I put people off me, because I am an endless chatterbox with a myriad of ideas sprouting from within.

I think all employer or girlfriend (these are exactly the same entity) would prefer to ask me: "uh" and for me to say: "yep"

Most of us are sheep, citizens living in boxes/appartments in polluted cities, completely depending on money, going to work, believing lies told by politicians and authorities, supporting their wars with our opinions and tax money, buying products, over consuming stupid stuff, having insurances, watching tv.
We need CHANGE... And it is starting to happen, look at the bad economy and the corrupt banks, look at people wanting healthy organic foods, people wanting to be self sufficient... but I don´t think the huge changes are gonna happen within this century, it will take tiiime and battles to turn the system around.

Re-bellious.. into the belly of the €£$bullions

I like my Danish

Maybe you're looking for a world in which objects give meaning in themselves. But meaning comes only from you. So maybe there's nothing wrong with the world, no lack of causes, but your perception of the world is where you're getting your problem from.

Yep

Yep

Yep

My preception is not wrong and alot of people in this world share this vision... When something is faulty it will look faulty no matter how you adjust to it you still know its wrong.. Im living and enjoying my life and am working on my career and future but deep inside i care that i understand and know whats wrong and whats right..

Change from the inside ourselves through the revolution of our own consciousness and unleash the human nature. Unite and create the largest mass movement for social change and awakeness. Reject the system and its institutions (banks, media, military, political parties, large corporations). Declare all the natural resources on the planet as common heritage to all people. Withdraw our money from the banks.

Individualism has been lost by capitalism, where private companies grow and will only accept the best of the best of the best of the best of the best to, once in a while, join the crowd.

This is logical. It makes sense to build strong business, from Apple, or McDonalds.

We should breed less. Aggregate across those born in the same year, or per month, and the competition per se is terrible. If we had 3 people born per month, they'd all have the ability to be special in their own calling.

The gap between successful and unsuccessful people gets wider.

Will riots continue? Will we become oppressed, and miserable, as population grows? Or will the oppressed / suppressed exceed private companies, as there are more human beings wanting to physically damage business... by.. 2050?

My family has flourished in £millions, and property... when it was easy to create one of a kind businesses in the 1960s and 1970s and 1980s.

Thelema said:

Maybe you're looking for a world in which objects give meaning in themselves. But meaning comes only from you. So maybe there's nothing wrong with the world, no lack of causes, but your perception of the world is where you're getting your problem from.

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I agree with this.

Nice topic. This quote sums it up far better than I ever could.

It's no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

Jiddu Krishnamurti

Good quote, Bittersweet.

I don't think most people today have it 'easy', everyone I talk to... very few have it 'easy'... so many people are either overworked and underpaid, unhappy with their job/career or parts of it, or would like to get a job, or would like to get a different job/career, or would like to do something more/different with their life...

Old people are lonely and say life was 'better' in many ways 'before' (even though they were sometimes hungry when they were young) - people worked simple things that allowed them to work together and socialize more naturally... Many people are lonely or confused these days...

Perhaps too much technology, environmental problems, lack of trust into corporations/big biz or governments/politicians... I don't think we have 'easy' times...

But many people are already living a 'revolution'... It starts with your own life yup...

Feathers said:

Old people are lonely and say life was 'better' in many ways 'before' (even though they were sometimes hungry when they were young) - people worked simple things that allowed them to work together and socialize more naturally... Many people are lonely or confused these days...

Perhaps too much technology, environmental problems, lack of trust into corporations/big biz or governments/politicians... I don't think we have 'easy' times...

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Definitely yes...

Life is too fast paced.. Most things are profit oriented... Things are losing their taste.. Its not everywhere like this but many people feel they are running in circle and theres no escape whatsoever... Alot of people...

Yes i carry on with life, i have my career, passions and i enjoy life but still you know its not right..

My parents lived life in a partially socialist state, Syria, before they moved to Dubai some 2 decades ago.. They used to say that the 70s and early 80s was a time of prosperity, corruption wasnt an issue like it is today, that work wasnt hectic as it is today and life was slow and everything was simple.. They had a war with Israel, local terrorist groups of that time and the constant tensions from the army and secret police at those days.... They said weekends felt like a vacation and people were more friendly, paitent and social than nowadays. Now everybody is busy, in a hurry and stressed..

Some people are f**king insane sometimes... They write hilarious statuses and come up with weird theories cuz they dont feel happy about their lives but those are not the kind of people im refering to..

Maybe the world would change if people change their attitudes and adjust in a healthy way to life.. I mean society in general is just going crazy nowadays, some silly norms and standards it got sometimes.. Like self help books (what a crap), music about being sad emo and i dunno what...

I agree with what you have said. Although I agree with Thelema, I also partly disagree. Sure, we give meaning to everything, but I don't believe that to be the only problem as the majority of the world is becoming more and more miserable, lost and ill. Where have our roots gone? It seems not many people can be satisfied by the lives they live, whereas if you look to the tribes that still remain they are fully satisfied as long as they have their homeland, their faith in the world, their group and family, and some food on the table. We have made the process thick for finding these simple things in such a complicated world. With these little things missing there is created a lot of unnecessary chaos and defenses.

Money is simply looked about as the one remaining opportunity to be able to obtain the feel of 'wealth' that life should have. This wealth is meant to come by CONNECTIONS... From living things! People, places and ourselves.

I'm lucky - I know it

I live in a small community in a remote area with an abundance of natural beauty.

The water and air are clean, the climate is mild.

The residents are mostly well educated, and wordly and there is high proportion of wealth - very cosmopolitan - not the typical close-minded small town atmosphere

Things are relaxed and easy going

There are lots of good restaurants, farm markets, live music, a thriving art community

There is very little crime - in fact, I never hear about any here.

The people are all very friendly - even the tourists whom we depend upon for our livelihoods - they're all in vacation mode, having a good time

An anvil fell on my television so i don't get stressed out by watching all the commercial advertising or the news - or see much about what's happening in the rest of the world

Society seems just fine around here

I guess it all depends on your perspective

coyote said:

Society seems just fine around here

I guess it all depends on your perspective

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This is true too.

We don´t really see the world as it is, we see the world as we are.

Feathers said:

Good quote, Bittersweet.

I don't think most people today have it 'easy', everyone I talk to... very few have it 'easy'... so many people are either overworked and underpaid, unhappy with their job/career or parts of it, or would like to get a job, or would like to get a different job/career, or would like to do something more/different with their life...

Old people are lonely and say life was 'better' in many ways 'before' (even though they were sometimes hungry when they were young) - people worked simple things that allowed them to work together and socialize more naturally... Many people are lonely or confused these days...

Perhaps too much technology, environmental problems, lack of trust into corporations/big biz or governments/politicians... I don't think we have 'easy' times...

But many people are already living a 'revolution'... It starts with your own life yup...

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Awesome outlook! You've got it! This is what I want to see on this site. You're less negative than I am.

coyote said:

I'm lucky - I know it

I live in a small community in a remote area with an abundance of natural beauty.

The water and air are clean, the climate is mild.

The residents are mostly well educated, and wordly and there is high proportion of wealth - very cosmopolitan - not the typical close-minded small town atmosphere

Things are relaxed and easy going

There are lots of good restaurants, farm markets, live music, a thriving art community

There is very little crime - in fact, I never hear about any here.

The people are all very friendly - even the tourists whom we depend upon for our livelihoods - they're all in vacation mode, having a good time

An anvil fell on my television so i don't get stressed out by watching all the commercial advertising or the news - or see much about what's happening in the rest of the world

Society seems just fine around here

I guess it all depends on your perspective

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Idk, I couldn't live somewhere where anvils fall out of the sky...

Nanita said:

This is true too.

We don´t really see the world as it is, we see the world as we are.

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No, not true at all... It depends on the person.. Some people have seen the horrors of life and tell you I've seen how bad life is but I survived.. Others like to live in denial saying everything is fine and then one day something goes wrong and everything crumbles...

People like Lacunas, creating stuff to avoid the truth... I face the truth and the pain and it motivated me to change and achieve alot in my life... I have never been this confident and brave like today and i make sure i never forget the past as it helps me stay on track... For me life is random and anything can happen... Theres alot of nice things as much as theres alot of bad things... but you can never define a rule or theory about life, its too big for that.. Stupid stuff like ''bad things happen to good people'', maybe if good people arent sitting on their fat asses cuz their too lazy to fight for their rights and to put a limit to bad people bullying them then they wouldnt come up with such an absurd and timid saying..

I live in a place where you have to pay for everything and most people find there find it an endless and tasteless cycle, you need commissions to make a decent saving. I mean health, education are being profit driven.. Lets face it, theres alot of wrong as much as theres right in this world... Life is a dynamic tension and will always change, might aswell work on making sure it changes for the better, rather than sit back and try to convince yourself everything is fine.. Whats wrong is wrong, you live with it and accept it but you know its wrong...

I have a passion to make a change and will die trying if not succeed... but i will a double life dedicating myself to my career, loved ones and the cause... I stand and believe in this but alone i cannot make it, maybe if i had the money and power i would... Unfortunately the rich or powerful manipulated the system for their own good while we sat like ignorant fools and sat silent watching our rights fade away..

Many people are so used to comfort they just cannot bear an small twist or turn in life.. Society even attacks such pt of view, they tell you get a life, go get laid, stop bitching.. Well guess what I got a life, I got liad and I'm not a bitch n still I see what I see and what the others mark as a lifeless loser stuff..