OCD tantrums/meltdowns.

superario

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I apologize for posting another thread but the question is on my mind.

Have any of you experienced some kind of meltdown, or "tantrum" almost due to your OCD? I'm almost talking about some kind of sensory overload (think autism) where you just shut down and need to take some time, whether it be a few minutes or longer, to just calm yourself down. Like an anxiety attack I guess, is a better word for it. My cousin and I called them "episodes".

I realize that the stresses from having psychological issues as well as dealing with everyday life can be quite exhausting and can give people moodswings, etc. I know that sometimes I can get a little cranky when my OCD's been bugging me. But there have been a few times in the past where I've had to throw complete fits because I'm just so frustrated and upset about something. I know it's completely irrational, which makes me even more angry because I feel like an idiot for doing it. Every now and then (mostly when I'm alone), if I can't automatically get some relief or instant gratification from doing a compulsive act or whatever, I'll tear up and just whine for a second or two. Usually I can calm myself down by taking deep breathes and telling myself to get over it, since normal people don't have these kinds of problems.

But there has been the situation where so many things happen and I've built up a lot of saved stress and then I just blow. I can recall a time where my cousin witnessed an episode of mine. It was probably the worst one I ever had. We were on my brother's computer in his room while he was away, probably at work. This is years ago. I know a lot of little things were bothering me (it's the little things you gotta worry about, when they pile up on you) and there was one significant event that was the last straw. I remember she was taking her turn using the computer and I accidentally knocked over a random deodorant stick that my brother had on his desk. I don't really know what it was about the whole event, but something sparked this sudden tantrum that is just so embarrassing to even think about.

I was moved to tears and remember that at some point I was on the floor, just completely lost, cut off from reality. I was having an episode where I could do nothing but just cry and cry and cry, bawl my eyes out and lay there pathetic like a toddler. I know I had my cousin frightened and worried because she kept asking me if I was okay. But I wasn't. Sure, the fit ended after a while but still after that I just felt so exhausted...

And there was another time I remember that I broke down in front of people. I was at school. This was in middle school when I had diagnosed myself with OCD (before I got a real one). My friends knew about my "condition". During one free play event my friend spun around. One of my habits is making sure that when one thing goes one way, it comes back around the same way. For instance, if you're doing a funky dance and the moves call for you to twirl yourself, you have to twirl back. Even if it's not in the dance. You just have to do it. If you walk into a classroom a certain way, walking around the tables, you have to walk the same way when you leave so as the "clear the air" so to speak. If you don't do it, then it's all wrong and I have no idea how to explain it, but I just get this weird feeling that if you don't just clear yourself from where you've been, you're leaving behind something you need to finish. It's like feeling the need to make things equal. I don't know.

Anyway, I'm rambling. My friend spun one way but didn't spin the other. I calmly asked her to spin the other way around to make things equal and we could move on. She knew I had OCD, and refused to do it. I wasn't being bossy or anything, at least not in my eyes. I was just pleading and begging her to just do it. I was getting so frustrated, I was raising my voice. I felt humiliated. On the playground practically stomping my feet to get my friend to just spin in a circle. But I couldn't help it, it had to be done or else. I got so upset that I just got so incredibly mad at her for not doing it for me and ended up leaving and just crying about it. My other friend told the girl she should have just done it because of my OCD but of course I eventually got over it.

Sometimes I just get so upset about something I have to stop what I'm doing, let it all out. Whether it means throwing myself onto the floor or whatever.

I wanted to know if anyone else has gone through this. :confused:

I feel kind of ridiculous, you know.
 

Feathers

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lol I never knew something like that existed. Thanks for sharing your story.
I didn't know it could be OCD-related.

I have Pure O (I think, self-diagnosed) and I can relate to the concept of 'overwhelm' and 'underwhelm' a lot... So it helps me to be conscious of it and just eg withdraw to my room if feeling overwhelmed etc. (or some other quiet/peaceful place ideally)

Alas, 'temper tantrums' sometimes seem to be the only thing that may 'work' and get my parents' attention for something - I may flip out and feel really stupid/silly later... My mum has these 'outbursts' too, I wish she'd learn to 'dose her responses' and recognize possible overwhelm/overload earlier on and react in advance (eg delegate, tell people when not so upset, organize things more efficiently etc) But I have the same faults so I can't really blame her...

I don't roll on the floor though, but I may yell or 'say too much' or 'explode'... (and feel sorry later lol)

So far I've seen the overwhelm/underwhelm concept mentioned in books about ADD/ADHD and HSP ('highly sensitive person'), maybe autism/Asperger's too...
Since OCD has been connected to poor myelin sheeth (=part of nerve) health, it does make sense... That 'nerves' would get 'overwhelmed/overloaded' more easily... So it's important to recognize situations and take a break I guess...

Also it's important to recognize that other people have the right to be how they are and to accept them as they are. (Easier said than done.) CBT may help, have you tried it?

So maybe when a friend walks 'the wrong way' maybe you can look away or go elsewhere or something like that?

I think you're brave to have talked to your RL friends about OCD. I probably wouldn't dare lol.
Though when I told mum she just said 'Oh yeah?' and when I explained and said she might have it too (she can get annoyed with stains) she didn't protest. hm.
 

Nanita

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Hi
I don´t have OCD myself, but I have a friend (in real life...) who has OCD. Her main issues are with bacterias, cleaning, washing hands, and also closing her front door several times, making sure that it´s completely closed, and making sure the oven is off after cooking. I have noticed that she also let other peoples actions effect her a lot, I mean, it matters to her where people put there things, where they sit, etc.
She has told me quite a lot about her struggles, and it sounds pretty awful.

Sometimes when I´m with her, I change my ways to not upset her. But on some occasions I have noticed myself being bothered by her need to control not only herself and objects, but also control what I do / other people do. I´m willing to change my ways to some extent, but I won´t let her OCD control everything I do when I´m around her.

Example: I come to visit her in her home, and as I enter, she tells me "please put your shoes right there on the door mat" and "please don´t put that plastic bag on any of the tables, because it probably has bacterias on it". Later, if I´m texting on my cell phone, she gets bothered that I don´t give her 100% attention the whole time I´m visiting her, and she talks to me as I´m texting... Talks and asks me when I´m done....
So in general, I find it exhausting and challenging to be patient with her, and I don´t always manage to be patient :) She usually understands me though, when I refuse to let her control everything.
 

Michel

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If you don't do it, then it's all wrong and I have no idea how to explain it, but I just get this weird feeling that if you don't just clear yourself from where you've been, you're leaving behind something you need to finish. It's like feeling the need to make things equal.
clear yourself ... need to finish ... make things equal

Here is something very important you have to understand. Nothing has to be equal. Nothing should be equal. Equality in every aspect of life would eventually make us robots! You are human, don't make yourself a robot! You will eventually die because all you give yourself is the space to lie on the floor. You deserve to be a human, and others deserve to be treated like a human by you. Don't compromise your self worth for anything and anybody! Try to assert being a human. Humans can never be perfect like robots!
 
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Feathers

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hey Michel, you misquoted above, can you please edit? I didn't say those things, the OP said them.

Also not sure how much you know about OCD, maybe it would be good to get educated about it a bit? It's not like people with OCD 'want' to think irrational lol.

I like what you said about humans and robots! :) & agree that humanity can be beautiful in imperfection too, it may take a bit of work for someone with OCD to learn to accept things though... :) I didn't like that reference to dying - everyone will, there's no need to talk about it like that I think...

Nanita, wow, it's great that your friend with OCD tells you about these things... Yeah, I think it's great that you try to be patient with her, maybe she'll learn how to be patient too...

hmm, texting in public/when with someone... Isn't it considered kinda impolite? hmm.. (insert appropriate smiley) A relative talks on the cell for half an hour+ in presence of others sometimes, I don't like it when she does it with me on the cell or next to her... Don't think that would have anything to do with OCD... (Other people can be bothered about it too lol)

But I understand you may need a 'break' from 'too much talking' (I sometimes need it too if people talk all the time) and texting can maybe be some way to distance oneself a bit? I find it easiest to excuse myself and go to the toilet/another room/outside and change location.... (sometimes the other person comes after me if I just go to another room/outside, change of scenery helps anyway...)
Not sure if we have a thread for 'dealing with people who talk too much' lol... I think there are some strategies that can be helpful... :)
 

Nanita

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@ Feathers... I realize that it´s not because of OCD that someone doesn´t like when their visitor uses the phone. I´m the kind of person who needs a LOT of freedom to do as I like, and when I´m with a friend, I don´t need to constantly have a conversation going / a lot of attention on each other.
 

superario

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Hey, thanks for all the input guys. I feel a little bit better about it. I think I just needed to let this out.

I haven't had many of these episodes. Those were more in the past, when I was dealing with a lot more stress from where we lived. My aunt and I didn't get along and living there was making me sick. We ended up moving, and I'm not as miserable as I was before. So that also might explain why I blew.

@Feathers, no. I haven't tried CBT yet. I think my mother is kind of in denial about this whole thing. She took me to the therapist when I came crying to her about how I just knew I had OCD and how I needed help. But she was the one who refused to put me on medication (that I can understand; I'd rather not be on medication too) and I was supposed to be starting some group therapy thing with other people who had anxiety but we just never went back. I'd ask her about it and she'd just shrug it off like "Oh, I don't know. Just forgot about it," kind of thing. Whenever I bring something up, she seems almost annoyed or angry by it and tells me not to think that way and I'd hate to say that I don't feel supported by her because she's my mother and I love her, but it's true. In real life, friends know about my OCD but they don't know how bad I have it. Save for like one person maybe. My family probably gets annoyed by the things I do but I don't really have them there for support. It's hard trying a way to get to therapy if I don't have someone who is willing to help me.

I'm thinking about getting counseling at my college that I'm going to start soon. Hopefully they can deal with more than just school stuff, since my OCD also affects me in the classroom sometimes. And I'd love to read a good book about it, if there are any recommendations.

It's just right now I don't have a job and I don't know how I'd be able to pay for CBT. -_-
I'm afraid to ask my mom to take me. She might if I asked her, but I don't want to bring something up again, when she's moved on and tried to forget it.
 

Feathers

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Yeah, I can understand this. My parents don't really understand sa/depression or such either. Mentioning Monk might have helped, they loved the show lol. And giving a brief summary. Mum saw me obsess about some cellar arrangements before anyway...

Stress can have a lot with it, yup. There's another forum for OCD, Stuckinadoorway, you may find some info there too... There can be a lot of factors, nutrition etc too...

There are some books out there, don't remember the titles right now, look on Amazon and/or in your library.
For depression or such, The Feeling Good Handbook is a great introduction to CBT. It's not about OCD specifically though.

Yeah, try at the college, ideally you'd see a specialist for OCD though... Some organisations might have free support groups and/or free therapy too, check what's available locally...

Nanita, I figured you probably know, just thought I'd mention it in case other people might mix up the two...
Yeah, we're all different with amount of attention we might be comfortable with. I need to meet up or talk on the phone way less than some of my friends and still consider people friends even if I haven't seen them for years lol. :)
So yeah, I can understand the need for freedom...
 

superario

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The doctor we went to see brought Monk up. He's so hilarious. I haven't seen the show in a while and he's a bit over the top I think, but it's nice to know something like this is (well, was) on the telly. I love Monk. :3

I'm going to check out that other place. The other forum. Thanks for the heads up! I hope I can find a way to get myself more relaxed. We're moving again and at the place that we think we're going to get, it's much more peaceful and they also have free yoga classes weekly and I've heard yoga is great for anxiety.

Thanks again. I really appreciate it :)
 

superario

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I have that problem a lot when things get too out of control and dirty I get so scared I have a huge melt down

Good to know that I'm not the only one who's done this. Sometimes the stress just gets too much to handle. But I'm glad to know it wasn't just me who had this happen before. ::p:
 
When you have stress built up inside and things that make you really scared keep happening to push you farther and farther some times you just have to realease it all by freaking out
 
I just wish it didnt happen to me so much it happens about every other day and I panic so badly that it physically hurts and I feel like i'm going to die.
 

superario

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Yikes!

Those have only happened to me in the past, thankfully. Sure every now and then I will get overwhelmed and get upset but not nearly like I had a few times some years ago. I believe this is also because I'm under a lot less stress than I was when they would happen to me. I'm sorry to hear that you get them so often though. Do not even get me started on the physical pains and sideeffects of anxiety. I know how awful it must be.
 

dean01

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i have ocd so i can relate to your situation. my downfall is the internet and mobile phones (txt only) i just cant stop! ive smashed 2 phones and a 500 pound laptop in the past six months trying to stop myself from my self humilation.
the stress of trying to overcome social anxiety finally tipped me into a major meltdown a couple of years ago and i triggered bipolar 1. the slightest little thing can tip me into depression or mania now. i have major tantrums when im manic if some thing doesnt go as i want it to. i obsess over details wanting to know how a senario will turn out before the event happens, then try and manipulate the situation to fit my obsessive thoughts.
if the situation doesnt go as i forsaw it then i naturally become aggitated and start to insist on things. unfortunately i dont realise im doing any of this until its over and ive bitten someones head off just because i have to walk on the left hand side off the road or something equally petty.
 

superario

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Oh, I know what you mean. I'm picky about sides too.


For instance, when I'm in a car I can sit in the passenger seat (I don't have a license) no problem. But it's the back that I have problems with. Sit on the right side, no problem. That's where I usually sit. Sometimes I have to sit in the middle if I'm in a car with numerous people. BUT, I CANNOT stand to sit on the left side of the car. I don't know why I do this or how I started but it's been going on for a long time now. The only times I sit on the left is when I have no choice, there's a car seat on the right side or I'm with a friend's family and I don't want to embarrass myself. I've ridden on the left and I know that it doesn't make me any safer being on the right but I still prefer it my way.

As well, I'm usually picky about which side I'm walking with. Sometimes it's left, sometimes it's right. I'm not sure which is the one I do the most. And in movie theatres, I have to sit a certain way too. Last time we went to the movies, I sat on the end, my dad beside me and my mom beside him. Not a problem except I felt so uncomfortable that I was panicking in my head thinking of a way/excuse for my mom to change seats with my dad. Because I couldn't move next to her because that wasn't 'right' in my head. Luckily I'm a vegetarian and my dad was eating a hotdog. God, the smell of that thing is so strong I cannot stand him eating it beside me so I used that as a lucky excuse to convince my parents to switch seats, so my mom could sit next to me and I wouldn't have to move.

It's an annoying thing, but it's so weird I can't help but laugh at myself for it :p
 
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