Info about living in an insane asylum or psychiatric ward?

[enamdar]

Anyone have info about living in Info about living in an insane asylum or psychiatric ward?

I don't really want to be treated, I just want to be commited to one, and live out my life there.

Seriously, does anyone have any real advice on how I can just drop out of society and the rat race? Its not healthy for me. And keeping a malcontent like me among society can't be good for society either. For my own good and society's I just need to be isolated from my "fellow" humans. they will only harm me, and I will only harm them. Thats what the Lutheran Kierkegaard thinks the Catholics got right and the Protestants are missing. The monasteries were a safety valve that allowed people antagonistic to this world, to escape it without disrupting the system. We really don't have that in our age, other than the "choice" to starve on the street, which is where I'm headed. There really is no safety valve or escape hatch. I don't know maybe there are some deserted islands out there in the Pacific, where I could literally be a Robinson Crusoe. Probably not realistic though. Well if those islands exists, I suppose its possible I could somehow get there with a few thousand dollars. I probably wouldn't last long in the wild. But nature is a less cruel enemy than man. Nature will kill me but not enslave me. Or being a hermit somehow, but that takes capital. I just need to get
away from it all. I reject all social relations. I never want to see another human again. The very sight and smell of them repulses me. I've really lost touch. I just don't get humans. I used to think I did. But the more I study them, the less I understand them. Or maybe I understand them empirically, I know what they actually do and on an intellectual scientific level I can understand their motivations partially. But I can't get inside their heads. Their endless cruelty just escapes me.
I mean I guess part of it is the Hegelian recognition, the master must enslave to be recognized. And Nieztche elaborated on it as the will to power. And you can try and make it scientific by just transmitting the Will to Gene. The human fascination and lust for cruelty just escapes me. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe that is what you need to survive, and I'm just a Darwinian miscarriage. Or maybe I have too much of Freud's superego. I've internalized too much of what society SAYS is good and become that. In that sense I am the society I hate so much- personified.
I'm the materialization of the spiritual imagination of society. I'm the Feurbachian God made flesh. I can understand the mind of God, which is the spirtitualization of society, more clearly than that of man. The regret at what man could have been and what he actually is before the flood. I suppose the God's eye view of the universe, is a curse and burden to us worm, dust, dirt.

I belong in solitary confinement. The prison population of course is the embodiment and hyperdistortion of man's will to power, although I would say the difference with the general population is only quantitative in nature. So obviously prison itself is no utopia. But solitary confinement in the "hole" would be my paradise. To be free from all human contact and all activity. To just sit in an empty cell 24 hours a day. And to have guards slide in the food. It has come to the point where my only conception of freedom is liberty from humanity. And so freedom becomes a prison cell. IDK, I guess at the rate I'm going I will probably end up in an insane asulym believing I'm Napoleon Bonaparte. As long as I make the leap of faith and truly believe I'm the Emperor, then nothing can imprison me. The insane asulym is in its own way a utopia, and it beats the streets.

 

[Anomaly]

Eh, never mind.

 

[Riptor]

There's not much I can say to all that except "pretty much spot on," that your thoughts mirror mine at times, and that I disagree you belong in solitary confinement (you're too smart), though I believe you have internalized too much. My humble advice is to talk it out more before doing anything drastic. Stick around, I don't know the first thing about insane asylums but if a listening ear would help at all you've found one.

Best wishes.

 

[Deathinmusic]

A fascinating post with fascinating thoughts. I loved it. I really wish I had your ability to read all that philosophical, psychological and scientific material and actually retain it in such a way that I could relate it to someone in a meaningful way.

I don't have any advice for you, except I think you should think about the immorality of being a burden to society and try to find some way to not be one. I'm sure there are intelligent people in insane asylums, but they probably aren't as eloquent as you. I'm sure you can think of some other way.

 

[mikestar]

you wouldn't like it there

 

[Luke1993]

I would like to get sectioned too actually, I wouldn't mind life there. It'd be fun! But, how to get there? I don't know....

 

[Noca]

Ive spent about a month and a half in a psych ward. I was sick of the food repeating over and over again. The people there just made me feel more crazy than I already was. Nurses took care of your every need and you got to see a psychiatrist everyday. I guess it helped me get through some of the worst parts of my life.

 

[Helyna]

I don't believe there are "insane asylums". There are hospitals for psychiatric patients. You'd have to hurt yourself or someone else to get there, probably. Half the patients are schizophrenic, according to my psych teacher. I don't think you'd like it as much as you think.

 

[Luke1993]

I don't believe there are "insane asylums". There are hospitals for psychiatric patients. You'd have to hurt yourself or someone else to get there, probably. Half the patients are schizophrenic, according to my psych teacher. I don't think you'd like it as much as you think.

insane asylums do exist. In the UK for example there is Broadmoor hospital, which was actually called at one point "Broadmoor Asylum for the Criminally Insane" and it's still basically an asylum today.

 

[enamdar]

I think for my personality relative isolation would be far worse than total isolation. I'm a spiteful resentful person who can not bear having my social betters above me. I'm in a period of relative isolation now having dropped of school and not seeking a job. Just living off my money which should last .5 to 1 year. I was friendly and jovial with my housemates at first, but now I try to avoid seeing them. The thing about my depression and need for social isolation, is it stems more from existential metaphysics than anything personal. So I'm basically getting a taste of what living on a fixed income would be like now. And the USA has one of the worst welfare states in the world, we love the struggle to the death.

I'm thinking of committing myself, but not being cured. In a way it is utopian. Like Plato's Republic being watched over by authoritarian all-powerful guardians who are trying to fix you. There is complete equality among inmates, all your needs are met without work, and no private property. The trade of security for freedom. But that is the nature of utopia, nearly all since Plato's time have acknowledge the need for both the sacrifice of individuality and freedom, and a strong authoritarian bureaucracy. That is the type of power the asylum has over you, their power is institutionalized and bureaucratic like in a utopia. There is the loss of the human element. It is mechanical machine like. But it is precisely the human element of subordination, domination, and power that makes it so humiliating and unbearable. I would prefer to be a patient over an employee. A prison can be a utopia. Bentham's utopia is designed as the perfect prison system. And of course the mental institution itself is the petproject of a plethora of progressive enlightenment reformers overcoming the dark of superstition with the light of science. It is itself a utopian project.

 

[Noca]

Did I mention that I didn't pay a dime for my 1.5 month psych ward stay?

 

[BrokenSailor]

I was forced to stay in a Psych Ward last year before I left the military and I assure you it's hell on earth. And I was only there for about a week. You have NO privacy. Doctors, Psychologists, Nurses, these people control your "life" there. You rat when they tell you to, you can't shit or piss in privacy. They have a log outside of the bathroom that the security writes in that explains how long you went to the bathroom and what for. They watch you brush your teeth, shower and shave. You have no belongings. You live with other "metal" people who have complete different illnesses than you and things can get crazy from time to time. I was never allowed outside. To get INSIDE the ward, you'd need to go through a series of locked doors all of which required a pass to get through. It was hell. It made me want to kill myself even more. The doctors don't understand you, the psychologists think your bullshitting them, no one believes you. If it were up to me I wouldve kept my mouth shut and suffered in silence. This is MY experience I know not all poses are the same but I can't imagine much of a difference. Email me or contact me if you want any more info I'm typing this on my phone so it's kinda difficult to go in depth. Many wishes, Ruben

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[Lonelykitsune]

I have been having thoughts like this recently too.After hearing about emilie ayutumns time there though(she was abused) i had thought it out again.In an asylum people can treat you like crap and get away with it be4caus your just some crazy person who tells lies and is mentally unstable.

Also the other patients can be really crazy and violent,the last thing id want is to live under the same roof with a psychopath.And the food would be crap.Also what would my family think?Also id not be able to do the things i like doing.

Then again,I wouldnt have to socialize or have to find work.I could just be me without anyone saying i didnt fit in because im already in a madhouse.I wouldnt hav to cook.I could just stay all day long with my thoughts,but then i could go crazy for real.

Although,if it where real,id like to join the asylum for wayward victorian girls,whre girls always gt revenge

 

[Lorraine Manca]

so you'd be a misanthrope? is that the right word? people individually are really great i think, its when they get in packs! then it all goes to hell. i think that way too though, minus the philosophy. I feel like i can never be free, unless its for a short period prior to starvation. which sometimes, doesnt seem like that bad of an idea. if you have to live off a paycheck, you're not free. its like someones giving you permission to live, its disgusting.
i enjoyed reading your post.

 

[Richey]

i think that using this as metaphor is far more of a healthy outcome rather then actually ending up in an asylum. there will be times where you'd need fresh air and the freedom to go somewhere of your pleasing. if you can find a comfortable job that isnt at the high pressure end of the rat race and you can find a suburb to live that really makes you happy. you'd have to do some research. but a place that is sort of peaceful but if you wanted to travel to the city you could still have that choice.

perhaps aim for a cosy apartment in a nice town somewhere. i'd love to move to Oxford because its so peaceful and different to every other suburb. perhaps somewhere nice in europe like the netherlands ...

personally looking at my parents and my dad. the idea of being a slave to the rat race, caught up in some corporate merry go round is a complete waste of a life. i can tell he's only doing it partly for social status and to fit in and partly because he was brought up with a technical background. but i can tell he doesnt enjoy it. for a big house and a bit of money. but he hates it.

i worked a full time job in graphics and printing for two years and i ended up becoming an insomniac and dreaded everyday because i was being forced to take on the most tedious tasks. management had all the fun duties. so what? i wait 5-6 years before i even get to smell the fun side of the job? waste of time, so i left and went back to university and now i'm realising the only thing that would make me truly happy would be making music or drawing. all of this at the the end of a course in programming. i've come to the end of this IT course and realised that i dont enjoy it at all ...

so for me i've clearly been playing life the wrong way. for whatever reason i'm not moulding my life how i want it to be. i'm allowing circumstances to mould me rather then me. its not a nice feeling.

an asylum is forced isolation. you still need your freedom.

i'm getting to the stage where im over it! meaning i'm getting tired of society and its expectations and its effect on me. perhaps then i'll feel more comfortable with my own decisions and less self conscious when i stop caring about the outside world and what others think and expect of me. thats been my downfall so far.\every job i work after a month or so i just dont care. i turn up late. i'm forward in being glad the shift is nearly over. because i dont like the idea of being forced to behave a certain way even though i know im being paid and its a 2-way deal, i signed up for a job and so i should meet those requirements. i just want to have total freedom and that is near to impossible until you find your dream career and lifestyle and that is going to take alot of work to find that sort of life. one that feels more free then it usually would. there are people who are born into cosier lifestyles and others that have to move mountains to get places.

 

[Hellhound]

I don't know if i'd like to be in one of those... i'd rather be in my own home, maybe start a treatment or try to beat it myself somehow and have a more "normal" life. I am terrified of ending up in an asylum, to be honest.

 

[goldenapple]

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