aurelia said:I've been following this thread for awhile now, and it seems most people have had positive experiences using Odaban & Sweat-Stop... but I'm wondering which one is better for facial HH?
...or if you have any other suggestions...
Matrix said:Hello Pinker and to Everyone,
First off, great work, Pinker, on putting all this information in one place. This is truly helpful information and just what everyone needs.
In my case, I have palmoplantar HH (hands and feet). I’ve tried just about everything over the years, including most items listed here. But during that time, I developed a bad habit of not sticking with one thing too long, despite having some or limited success. I guess I was truly looking for a cure, in a sense. I may have to try Odaban and Iontrophoresis once more, if needed.
My story recently is that my HH used to be nearly 100% palmar and near zero plantar. About a year ago, I began noticing my plantar increasing little by little.
To make a long story short, today, my palmar has reduced, but my plantar (feet) is really wrecking havoc on me at work and when my anxiety kicks in (both feeding on each other). My feet get hot and sweaty; therefore I have to change shoes and socks, since the odor begins to develop. The more the odor develops, the more my anxiety kicks in and just exacerbates the problem.
Today, I have about 8 pairs of dress shoes (2 extras in my car) but most of them are already ruined, I believe, due to the bromhidrosis odor. I’ve spent a fortune recently on shoes and powders of all sorts to stop the smell of my feet and shoes. It has really affected me in my profession.
Recently, I just started with acupuncture (1 session so far). Also, I went to see a podiatrist today, and the Dr. recommended Lazerformalyde (10% formaldehyde)—and he said this stuff works (supposedly much stronger than Drysol) and has a perfect track record for him so far with his patients. I will try it for the fist time tonight, and I really hope this works.
My question is, have any of you tried Lazerformalyde? If so, has it worked? Also, have any of you developed plantar at a later stage, and while noticing a slight decrease in palmar? I’m now 41, and this just started a year or so ago for me.
Any advise/info. would be greatly appreciated.
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Update: Day 1: Today was absolutely great . No smell at the office. Didn’t have to change socks and shoes. Wow! Socks still felt a bit damp at the end of the day, but nothing like before. I did notice that I sweat maybe just a tad bit more in the palms, but that’s fine. I can deal with that, but not the smelly shoes/socks/feet. (BTW: my doctor who prescribed Lazerformalyde mentioned not to use this on the hands, as it can get into your eyes easily (by accidental rubbing). And it could cause very serious irritation. Anyhow, we’ll see. It’s just day one, but so far very promising results! Thank God! I'll post status again in a week.
Pinker said:Matrix said:Hey,
I've heard of formalyde for the feet but i've never tried it myself, great to hear it's working for you and so quickly!
Does it come in the form of a cream? Does it leave any colouring or odour on the feet?
Best of luck
Thanks for the well wishes, Pinker. Lord knows I need all the luck in the world right now with this dibilitating condition.
You know, it worked the first couple of days, and I was sooo excited. However, on the 3rd business day, I had to change shoes and socks again. Not sure what happened. Maybe because I didn't apply it for 3 days (since is was a weekend holiday) or if it's my new shoes already infected? The doctor said I'd notice a difference after the first application, but he said it generally takes a couple of weeks before it's to a normal stage and maintained by applying just once or twice a week. Anyhow, I'll give it time and see what happens. I may have to purchase more shoes (to add to my two new ones just two weeks ago).
One thing is certian. "Forced anxiety" of nerves generating directly to my feet still triggers (or mimics) sweating and makes my feet very hot and maybe a bit damp, since it's enclosed. So this is still a problem. Even with reduced sweating (just moisture), the intense heat is enough to activate whatever small bacteria are in the shoes (or left in the socks) to still generate odor. My feet itself are fine, no odor. And this "forced anxiety," as I call, to my feet is mainly psychosomatic, I beleive, so I need to get this treated as well through psychotherapy.
As for the product itself, it comes in a roll-on form. It has a very strong chemical-like smell while wet, so when applying, it has to be in a ventillated area. After it dries, there's no smell whatsover. As for coloring or residue on my feet, yes, and it's white. It looks like super, super dry and super chapped feet.
If anyone knows of any antibactrial shoes, I would love to hear about it so I can order them. This will definitely help. But for now, I have to look for some antibacterial insoles. I'll see within a couple of weeks or so.
But it's really strange how I just recently developed this problem.
Hyper-Hydro said:Sounds like you´re taking speed as we used to call it in the seventies. Is there anything about ephedrines or amphetamine in the declaration?? Did it occur to you that not eating regularly might result in worse problems than sweating excessively?
Pro-Banthine is an anti-cholinergic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticholinergic
Study the possible side effects and tell me if that doesn´t make you sweat:
Possible effects in the central nervous system resemble those associated with delirium, and may include:
Confusion
Disorientation
Agitation
Respiratory depression
Short-term memory loss
Inability to concentrate
Wandering thoughts; inability to sustain a train of thought
Incoherent speech
Wakeful myoclonic jerking
Unusual sensitivity to sudden sounds
Illogical thinking
Photophobia
Visual disturbances
Periodic flashes of light
Periodic changes in visual field
Visual snow
Restricted or "tunnel vision"
Visual, auditory, or other sensory hallucinations
Warping or waving of surfaces and edges
Textured surfaces
"Dancing" lines; "spiders", insects
Lifelike objects indistinguishable from reality
Rarely: seizures, coma and death
Pinker said:teandtoast: Good to hear probanthine is working for you. I had similar side effects and it was pretty rough. Do the conventional 20% antiperspirants not have any effect on your underarms?
Pinker said:teandtoast said:Pinker said:teandtoast: Good to hear probanthine is working for you. I had similar side effects and it was pretty rough. Do the conventional 20% antiperspirants not have any effect on your underarms?
well the roll ons used to work when i first started using them years ago but now they do fck all and the pain and not being able to get to sleep from using them just made them not worth while.
Seems probanthine only works well to some extent...went into town last night to hot club and arms didnt hold upto well....shame!
Seems only works well when sat down for say long periods in kinda cool settings such as work, mates etc
I'm seriously considering getting Tumescent Liposuction...would eliminate sweating & BO, is just trying to find a surgery in the UK that does it. Bupa do it for roughly £3500 but only costs £700 in the US so is trying to find a private health clinic in UK which would do it cheaper (which I know some people have found).
Fed up of this condition limiting my daily life and activities (which it shouldn't blah blah but unfortunately it does). :?
That's interesting that they stopped working, I haven't had that happen yet but I don't use it very often, maybe once a fortnight. To stop the itching though, if you dry your underarms with a hairdrier after you've rolled it on that should do the trick. It's also important not to apply too much.
I had the same experience with probanthine. At first it worked really well.. probably too well because I couldn't even eat without water. But then it seemed to stop working, whether I took it in the morning or afternoon, with food or without food it just didn't seem to work again. Very strange..
If you could afford the liposuction procedure that would probably resolve the issue. Though comparing them i've read that 'curretage' surgery is a better option because it doesn't allow the sweat glands the chance to grow back at all. There may be more effective liposuction treatments now, I don't really know. I have seen curretage on a list when I saw a dermatologist which leads me to believe they perform it on the NHS. The best thing to do would be to see a dermatolgist or another specialist to discuss the possibilities.