How to get girls...no, really.

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Okay, many of you guys need some SERIOUS HELP. I thought I was having trouble with girls ( I can't hold relationships and mess up a lot ), but I think if some of you guys EVEN had my experiences you would feel oh so much better about your lives. So allow me to help you fix your problem. If you trust me and what I say, I gaurantee you this will work within six months. If you don't trust me then youre ****ed. It's that simple. :D

Here's your problem...

1. You are anxious and it seeps from you like sweat. Girls hate that.
2. You have no social skills because you have no experience. Girls hate that.
3. You are utterly unattractive. ( I will explain more later ). Gilrs hate that.
4. You look and act like a weird creepy loser. Girls hate that.

GIRLS DON'T LIKE YOU BECAUSE THEY ARE REACTING TO YOUR ANXIETY! DO not take it personally, do not take it personally, do not take it personally. NONE OF THE WEIRD CREEPY PATHETIC SHIT YOU DO IN YOUR LIFE IS REALLY YOU BEING YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOU ARE FEELING SO GODDAMN ****ED UP. Think about it! People who feel upset act upset, and it's no wonder other people are bothered by them! They aren't being themselves.

Read that last bit over and over again until you believe it. Ok, so how can you fix your problem? Well you can't fix it ENTIRELY until you solve your social phobia. This is where I am at, I've hit a wall and can't do any better until my SA is gone. However, you can get to where I am in a year or two if not much sooner. You may have trouble keeping relationships ( I can't ), but you will **** some HOT chicks, have a few flings, and get some basic social skills.

STEP 1: LEARN HOW GIRLS THINK.

Girls are not looking for nice guys or assholes or any of that. They want romantic feelings and intimate experiences, aka relationships, even if short-term flings. If a man can give a woman that, and if he has the ABSOLUTELY RANDOM PERSONALITY QUIRCKS (yes YOU HAVE THEM) that ONLY SHE likes, she will **** HIM AND BE WITH HIM. But you see, they are not looking to unleash their cum into someone ( like we are ), they ALMOST NEVER get horny until they like a man FIRST. You must MAKE THEM GET TURNED ON FOR YOU AS A MAN in order to make them WANT TO BE WITH YOU. Here's how you do it.

STEP 2: ACT ATTRACTIVE. ( actually, pretend to be attractive ).

To be an attractive man, you must, I REPEAT, absolutely must...

1. ACT CONFIDENT.
2. ACT ASSERTIVE.
3. ACT WITH SELF-RESPECT.
4. ACT DOMINANT.

You have none of these qualities because SOCIAL PHOBIA MAKES US ALL PATHETIC. I suffer too, I know. But you can ****ing fake it. Im proof. The more you act like you have attractive qualities the more you will fool women, the more they will **** YOU, and the more you will really have these things.

Here are examples.

1. ACT CONFIDENT.

* At a bar, noticing a girl who glanced at you and breifly made friendly eye contact, you WALK OVER TO HER*

You: Hi there, I'm such and such.
Girl: Hi, I'm so and so.
You: Ask her simple questions, chit chat.
Girl: Taking aimlessly about herself for a while.
You: * Pull out phone* Hey, that's cool. We should hang out, what's your numer?
Girl: Sure that'd be fun. *Gives you number*.
You: Cool, bla bla bla bla *chit chat a bit more*. Hey it was fun talking to you, we'll hang out. Bye.
Girl: Bye.

HER PUSSY IS AS GOOD AS YOURS AND IF SHE SAYS NO YOU BE THE GENTLEMAN AND WALK AWAY. THAT IS CONFIDENCE. YOU DONT GIVE A ****. It doesn't matter what happens because you are just acting anyway.


2. ACT ASSERTIVE.

Girls do what you want them to do when you want them to do it. If they have a problem with it, they are welcome to complain. You listen, and make a decision if this acceptable to you. Your will comes first, then hers. However, don't do something that violates the social rules or norms, just assert your will OVER hers unless she indicates that she REALLY doesn't agree. Here's a real world example from my life: A girl I met at a club was driving me home, we parked outside and the following conversation took place...

Me: Hey you should come inside.
Girl: I don't know, it's kind of late, what if your mom gets mad.
Me: Ha ha it's no biggy, come on, she won't because she's asleep.
Girl: I don't know.....I mean....
Me: Just come on.
Girl: Okay.

She came in and we hung out. She did what I wanted when I wanted because I was ASSERTIVE of my WILL. If she didn't like it she could **** off. However be careful not to be a rapist. A firm NO allways means NO.

3. ACT WITH SELF-RESPECT.

You must act like you are a valuable person no matter what kind of a piece of shit you think you are. You have to try and trick her into thinking you are worth something. A real life example will help you understand. After hanging out with a girl four times and getting no pussy, I had to pull the plug. We sat down and talked...

Me: We should talk. I don't think this is working out. I want to be more than just friends.
Her: Well I think we should just be friends, I'm sorry for stringing you along.
Me: I understand, but I don't wan't you to call me again until you decide to be more than just friends.
Her: Okay.
Me: Well it was fun hanging out, see you around.

See, I didn't take her shit and she felt it hard. She called me back two weeks later to come over her place and we had sex, because I respected myself.


4. ACT DOMINANT.

Girls need you to put them in their place; the subordinate position. They don't like men that act like bitches and cannot take charge ( THAT'S YOU ). BE....IN....CONTROL.

Example: You and a girl are hanging out watching a movie in her room. You, NOTICING THAT SHE IS BREATHING HARD AND TURNED ON, look over at her and smile, then lean in and kiss her. You slowly push her to the bed and keep testing her defenses. As she gets more excited you take off all her clothes ( dont be a pussy, go for it! ) and then you **** her, etc. DOMINATE HER. Then be sure to cuddle her after, haha.


STEP 3: LEARN SOME BASIC SOCIAL SKILLS.

Get yourself a HOT female acquaintance and HAVE her tell you about how girls think, how dating works, and so on. You can use the sister of a friend, a family member, or even read internet forums where hot chics post about love, if you have to. Supposing you get a real girl, after each of your experiences trying to get girls, talk to her and ask her to point out your mistakes. I did this and it improved my game 1000%. I will allways be indebted to her. Also, if you can use successful men to help clue you in on your game.


Now you may think this doesn't work, but I gaurantee you that the problem is in your attitude, lack of social skills, and your inability to hide your anxiety. You can do much much better if only you are willing to try. Currently Ive had sex of some sort with 15 girls in the last 5 years, and hooked up with another 15 that didn't lead to sex. If it weren't for my paranoia I would have had a true girlfriend, but even as it is I had one technically for a few weeks, and a couple flings as well. If you are not at my stage of recovery you can be. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THE GOAL IS TO BE YOURSELF AROUND GIRLS EVENTUALLY, AND STILL HAVE THEM LIKE YOU, BUT UNTIL YOU LEARN HOW TO ACT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. FIRST GET YOUR GAME UP, THEN LEARN TO RELAX AS YOU GET OVER YOUR ANXIETY BY JUST BEING YOURSELF AROUND GIRLS. YOUR GAME WILL BE INTERNAL AT THIS POINT LIKE NORMAL MEN. Remember, its only an act because your social phobia is ****ing you in the ass. As soon as it diminishes your game will feel more naturally YOU!

I sincerely hope this helps, & please let me know how your progress is coming.
 
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Harleyq

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I think speaking in generalities, your advice is good but I gotta say, your examples for #s 2 and 3 under Step 2 bothered me quite a bit. Of course these are just my opinions and I understand they may not apply to other girls. However:

If I were the girl in your situation for #2, I don't think I would ever want to hang with a guy who did that a lot. It's essentially pressuring the girl, which makes things uncomfortable. One or two harmless situations are fine like maybe getting her to eat a slice of pizza even though she's really health-conscious, but I just wanna say, it's not ok to do this often.

The girl in your #3 sounds like she was majorly manipulated, like she liked you and had sex with you even though she may have not wanted to, just to keep from losing you. It just seemed like she was being taken advantage of and that her self esteem was not where it should've been. If this wasn't the case, great, but I've seen a lot of situations where this scenario was more or less negatively impacting the girl.

That and if someone said "Don't call me unless you want to be more than friends" I would think "To be more than friends, you'd have to be a friend to me in the first place, which you aren't. Bye"

Assuming these girls are adults and should be able to think for themselves, I can see where maybe you're thinking "I never forced her, it's her choice" which is true. Nevertheless, it just seems to be kind of..wrong and shady.

If it works and guys wanna do it, fine. Just thought I'd give my 2 cents in, as a girl. And that 2 cents summed up is "Be careful when using this advice"
 
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agoraphobickatie

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agreed 100% harley! ..not to shoot you down, bud.. and maybe this works for you, but i found quite a lot wrong with this advice... i won't even get into it.. but you can't just generalize 'how to get girls', the way you approach/pull a girl allllll depends on what type of girl she is, we're all different!
 

limetree

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HER PUSSY IS AS GOOD AS YOURS.. BE....IN....CONTROL ...DOMINATE HER

Hahahaha that's gold, very capsgasmic (although exasperatedly so) militant tone, but I'm afraid I was lolling too much to take most of this seriously. What is this, like, pimp my SA?

However be careful not to be a rapist.

I think this is mostly a given for SA guys, but fair enough they should learn how to be tactful with the social skills many *assertive, confident!* guys need to curb.
 

PennyLane

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HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the most sexist BS I have ever heard in my life.

There is every likelihood that you may indeed get some pussy....but im guessing it will belong to someone who every guy you bump into will have been there and done that way before you.

If getting someone (and by the sounds of it anyone) to **** you is that important I reckon you must be pretty desperate.

Enjoy manipulating women into sex....I now see why you have to fake that self-respect aspect!
 

Harleyq

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...I'm glad everyone else said what I was thinking while I was trying to be tactful. Now I don't feel so bitchy anymore
 
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Jake123

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This is stupid. In fact it's much creepier than the "weird creepy" people you describe. I don't even like girls, but this is the most BS I've ever heard. Like wow.
 
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Remus

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rediculous!!!! and that's coming from someone with experience of girlfreinds

It sounds like the sociopaths guide to dating lol
 
Guys,

A few observations I have made. The guy seems young.
He seems to have swiped a lot of his stuff from the so
called guides out there.
Seems also that the picks up clubs girls and well...

A few questions, if I may, Phobologist:
*How old are you?
*How long have you had SA/SP, if at all?
*Are you about getting laid mostly or a relationship?
*Would you say you have high self esteem?
 
Hmmm seems people didn't like my post. I guess I'm not that surprised but I wrote it for all the people who had never done anything before. You guys seem a lot better off than me and I could probably learn a lot from YOU. Didn't you see that part? I stressed several times that I have serious issues, only that I wasnt completely devoid of success like many on this site. One thing I want to ask is why were some of you so mean? Im not trying to hurt anyone, I am telling what I think is the truth. If you think Im wrong then please enlighten me and tell me whats wrong with my attitude, behavior, etc.

Now about me, I am young, yes. I am 23. I have very low self esteem, moderate to severe depression, and really bad anxiety that has been getting better slowly for several years. Ive had SA for 9 years but I wasnt officialy diagnosed until 9 months ago. I may perhaps be warped because my SA began when I asked out a female friend of mine. However, I honestly meant this guide to do good. I cant understand what's "wrong" with it? I am allways looking for the explanation for why I am such a failure and I know its because of SA, but none the less I am often at a loss for EXACT explanations. Still, my only success has come from what I wrote above. I sure as hell can't get understand how I'm off.

It sounds like you folks have had a lot more relationship success than I have. I basically ****ed up all my relationships by getting scared and cutting the girls off, or, more frequently, they didn't want to see me again after a few times hanging out. Im sure that doesn't shock you. Not surprisingly yea, it's really all about sex for me since I can't connect to them anyway, and when I try they get creeped out. I figure I might as get what I want when I can. However, I know that acting like something you aren't won't solve your problems in the long run and I would like to be able to have meaningful relationships when I so choose. But that seems a long way off now. What should I do, suffer with nothing?

So as I said, you guys can rip on me if you want, or you could help me out and tell me where I am going wrong. All I know so far is Ive managed to **** some pretty hot girls, handle my own with girls most of the time, and can at least appear attractive to some women, long enough to get in their pants. What I cant do is get it right more than a quarter of the time, and I cant keep a girl around. Then again, I cant make friends either so what else is new.
 
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rediculous!!!! and that's coming from someone with experience of girlfreinds

It sounds like the sociopaths guide to dating lol


And why, pray tell, is it rediculous? Because I don't want to take shit from bitches who will play games if you show how much you lack self-respect? Ive seen what things were like when I didnt try to act attractive.

How do you explain what success ive had, hmmm? Whats your secrete? Tell me how to be better and I will. Otherwise, what's your deal?
 
I think speaking in generalities, your advice is good but I gotta say, your examples for #s 2 and 3 under Step 2 bothered me quite a bit. Of course these are just my opinions and I understand they may not apply to other girls. However:

Okay, well a female perspective is appreciated. This, incidentally, is mostly what I was told by a very hot female friend of mine several years ago. So, you guys may think Im a psycho but she was the one who trained me.


If I were the girl in your situation for #2, I don't think I would ever want to hang with a guy who did that a lot. It's essentially pressuring the girl, which makes things uncomfortable. One or two harmless situations are fine like maybe getting her to eat a slice of pizza even though she's really health-conscious, but I just wanna say, it's not ok to do this often.

Why not? Either I control her or she controls me, there is no middle ground! If I dont act assertive she won't like me and she will take me for a joke. I don't have a choice. You are a girl, you don't have to worry about anything. I bet you, however, you don't like guys who are unassertive. I never met a women who did. I never heard of it even. :mad:


The girl in your #3 sounds like she was majorly manipulated, like she liked you and had sex with you even though she may have not wanted to, just to keep from losing you. It just seemed like she was being taken advantage of and that her self esteem was not where it should've been. If this wasn't the case, great, but I've seen a lot of situations where this scenario was more or less negatively impacting the girl.

Yea she was, I totally got her at her own game, hahahaha. :D She had a boyfriend and she was juggling me and him. At first she decided on him, and then she decided on me after things didn't work out. ****ed up, huh? She really did want the sex though, you don't know! She was begging me to **** her .....yadda yadda yadda...you can imagine. And you know what? Because of my stupid ****ing anxiety I couldnt even get hard to go in her, I had to jack off instead ( which was still fun but embarrassing :D ). Why the hell are girls so much more important than I am? Why dont you care about me? Everyone allways cares about girls like I am some piece of shit. Well **** them! :mad:

That and if someone said "Don't call me unless you want to be more than friends" I would think "To be more than friends, you'd have to be a friend to me in the first place, which you aren't. Bye"

Which is toooootallly why she called me back to have hot sex right? Please.


Assuming these girls are adults and should be able to think for themselves, I can see where maybe you're thinking "I never forced her, it's her choice" which is true. Nevertheless, it just seems to be kind of..wrong and shady.


It is shady, but the things girls have done to me are far worse. Girls dont give a **** about men who lack self-respect and who can't get their shit together. Girls are the cruelest class of human beings on this planet. Whatever evil comes to them from the dating game is well-deserved. As long as I am crippled by this SA I am going to have to be brutal at times. Sadly, however, I actually had this girl where I wanted her, and I cut her off because she wanted proof that I actually liked her and refused to **** anymore. And I took this as meaning she was playing games! Argghh. See, no matter what I do my SA will get to me and **** my head up.


If it works and guys wanna do it, fine. Just thought I'd give my 2 cents in, as a girl. And that 2 cents summed up is "Be careful when using this advice"


Why? Maybe you guys think Im a pathetic loser and I should be slapped for saying these things. Maybe youre right. But you know what? As bad as I am, I am a ****ing pimp compared to half of the guys on this board. And if THIS WORKED FOR ME, IT CAN WORK FOR THEM TOO. Why should they suffer just so some people who are uncomfortable with my methods, wont be offended?

Im sorry if I seem really hostile but I am so ****ing pissed off right now its not even funny. I know you are trying to help but I take this as an attack on me. Basically you are telling me that you want me to suffer without any sex, OR RELATIONSHIPS, because I dont belive you have a better solution.

I know this is crazy but it sure feels that way. So, is that what you mean?
 

limetree

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Sorry for the sarcasm if it offended you, I don't know why I just found your post funny :/ Maybe because of the absurdly quick transition between SA and Mr Confident and the typical SA distaste for clubs and loose behaviour. I don't think trying to get girls to sleep with you is a good way to initiate meaningful relationships. Women value commitment, that's why some girls get so jealous when guys flirt with other women, so having standards is usually a good sign that you value women as more than sex objects.

It is better to meet people somewhere like at an interest meet up group or something where you can actually get to know the person. Have you opened up to any of these women about having SA and that you are trying to get better?

And I didn't reply because I have more relationship experience than you, I have zero, but I like to laugh at myself over that too.
 
agreed 100% harley! ..not to shoot you down, bud.. and maybe this works for you, but i found quite a lot wrong with this advice... i won't even get into it.. but you can't just generalize 'how to get girls', the way you approach/pull a girl allllll depends on what type of girl she is, we're all different!

I. DON'T. BELIEVE. YOU.


And you know what? If I had listend to you and other people telling me such rubbish I would still be one of these virgin sob-stories whining about how I have to kill myself because I can't ever experience sex or romantic experiences. And would you give a **** about me then? No! You would be satesfied with your self-righteous, pretentious, politically correct foolery, while I rotted in hell! That's what. And do you say it isn't so? Am I wrong?

Do you really give a **** about what works for me, or are you only concerned with what works for girls? Maybe I am projecting, but it seems that women dont really like me or care about me ( as a person ). Its all sexual, if at all. With about three exceptions. Likewise, the ones who arent interested in me sexually could care less.....even fellow SA sufferers. Seriously man. WTF? Id rather die than listen to your advice. I would have killed myself by now. But really, since you think you know, enlighten me, please, DO TELL!:confused::mad:
 

limetree

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It is shady, but the things girls have done to me are far worse. Girls dont give a **** about men who lack self-respect and who can't get their shit together. Girls are the cruelest class of human beings on this planet. Whatever evil comes to them from the dating game is well-deserved. As long as I am crippled by this SA I am going to have to be brutal at times. Sadly, however, I actually had this girl where I wanted her, and I cut her off because she wanted proof that I actually liked her and refused to **** anymore. And I took this as meaning she was playing games! Argghh. See, no matter what I do my SA will get to me and **** my head up.

I'm sorry that you've had bad experiences with women but they aren't all like this, you just need to stop looking in the same places and going for the same types- easy to get women usually lack self-respect themselves when trying to get immediate gratification for their insecurities. No matter what you tell insecure people, it's going to be exhausting trying to continually reassure them. They may move on quickly ironically because they're afraid of abandonment. We all deserve better. Please don't take any of our comments too personally, perhaps some of us read your original intentions wrong.
 
Sorry for the sarcasm if it offended you, I don't know why I just found your post funny :/ Maybe because of the absurdly quick transition between SA and Mr Confident and the typical SA distaste for clubs and loose behaviour. I don't think trying to get girls to sleep with you is a good way to initiate meaningful relationships. Women value commitment, that's why some girls get so jealous when guys flirt with other women, so having standards is usually a good sign that you value women as more than sex objects.

It is better to meet people somewhere like at an interest meet up group or something where you can actually get to know the person. Have you opened up to any of these women about having SA and that you are trying to get better?

And I didn't reply because I have more relationship experience than you, I have zero, but I like to laugh at myself over that too.

Bro, take a look at the situation then. You have no experience and never had sex before right? Ive been with 15 chics and could have been with 20 or 25 if I hadnt made some mistakes in the moment, even with my SA. Dont you want to be like me? Because when I was like you I sure as hell did. And now that Im here Im ready for the next step. I want to have relationships because I know I can get laid at least occasionally. I have what it takes now.

Not before. So its up to you. Do what you please. You can listen to that bullshit feminist pandering about sex-objects or you can realize that women ARE sex objects, and that your anxiety makes you feel afraid to admit that. Whenever you want someone for their body they are a sex object, no matter how much you think they are a cool person. Its nothing bad. Dont believe the lies. They LIE! Really. :eek:

Try my advice, it will make you a pimp compared to your current self. :) Then when youre ready and your SA is better youll start having relationships. THis is what Im ready for now. Im done with the whole game thing. But thats ME.
 

PennyLane

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Your responses to people don't seem that much nicer than the original post.

You have to admit from a woman's perspective it was quite a rude post. I seriously struggle not to take offense from it.

I am sorry you have issues and im sorry that the responses came across as mean but I think you need to consider what you were saying more carefully.
 
I'm sorry that you've had bad experiences with women but they aren't all like this, you just need to stop looking in the same places and going for the same types- easy to get women usually lack self-respect themselves when trying to get immediate gratification for their insecurities. No matter what you tell insecure people, it's going to be exhausting trying to continually reassure them. They may move on quickly ironically because they're afraid of abandonment. We all deserve better. Please don't take any of our comments too personally, perhaps some of us read your original intentions wrong.

YES THEY ARE ALL LIKE THIS, WHO IN THE WORLD FILLED YOUR HEAD WITH THAT IDEA? WAKE UP! They all want men who are attractive. Ugly girls will put up with suckers but thats because those girls arent attractive either.

NO DUH!

Listen man, just because I have SA doesnt mean I havent hung out with hot people before who do have lives and who know about dating. I even had a life for a good year in college, thank god, so I can speak from experience.

This is the way it is. I dont believe anyone who says otherwise.
 
Your responses to people don't seem that much nicer than the original post.

You have to admit from a woman's perspective it was quite a rude post. I seriously struggle not to take offense from it.

I am sorry you have issues and im sorry that the responses came across as mean but I think you need to consider what you were saying more carefully.


NO. I WILL NOT. And I dont have issues, we have issues, or otherwise, what exactly are you doing here? I may be scared and ashamed of myself when confronted by normal people, but fellow sociophobes and neurotics dont scare me half as much. You don't scare me. So like I said, WE have issues.:D

You know what, I am so ****ing tired about the "female perspective". I want to backhand every woman on the planet sometimes you guys get on my nerves. I have a serious case of victimology going on here and I just dont give a rat's ass about anyone except myself anymore. Ive taken too much shit from the so called "gentler sex". :mad:

DOnt talk to me about your sensitivities. We will have to agree to disagree. I offend you, and what you think offends me. Okay. Good.
 

PennyLane

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NO. I WILL NOT. And I dont have issues, we have issues, or otherwise, what exactly are you doing here? I may be scared and ashamed of myself when confronted by normal people, but fellow sociophobes and neurotics dont scare me half as much. You don't scare me. So like I said, WE have issues.:D

You know what, I am so ****ing tired about the "female perspective". I want to backhand every woman on the planet sometimes you guys get on my nerves. I have a serious case of victimology going on here and I just dont give a rat's ass about anyone except myself anymore. Ive taken too much shit from the so called "gentler sex". :mad:

DOnt talk to me about your sensitivities. We will have to agree to disagree. I offend you, and what you think offends me. Okay. Good.


WOAH! Goodbye.
 
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