cmon its not that bad :)

[Marie_knowsbestt]

as the saying goes, a mad person does not know they are mad. if u aware of these things then thats a good thing in my eyes. have u seen a cognitive behavioural theropist before? or maybe a psychoanylist?

your saying that you dont have a inferior complex, but u think u might have an unconscience one, you most likely dont. dont assume what the unconscience mind is thinking, because it is too complicated, it also impossible really for a proffesional to know, if 1000's of people had the exact same truama at the exact same way, the result of that expereince in ur adult life varies in 1000's of different ways.

has anyone seen the movie numb? i suggest u watch it. mathew perry develops depersonization disorder, and becomes obsessed of why he got it, and how to cure it. the last person he sees tell him that they think he should learn to accept the disorder, and live a life with it, rather than spend a life trying to fight it. so he does. he stays happy, in his own comfort zones, rather than toturing himself trying to get outside of his comfort zones like 'normal people'.

i guess with all problems:

you can either try and try to solve them, battle em ur hole life and be miserable.

try and solve them, wen u know uve tried EVERYTHING just accept it.

or just accept it.

 

[dottie]

Well, honestly I was kind of turned off by this post before I even opened it, because a title stating "it's not that bad" just automatically tells me, this person doesn't understand... Yes, it IS that bad... When I would rather slit my wrist than face another day, when I struggle to even enjoy being a mother to the person who I love more than anyone in the world (including myself), when the only purpose in going on living is to avoid hurting people... it IS that bad.... And no, not everyone is alike. Just because one person made it through okay doesn't mean everyone else can.

I'm 27 years old and I work 40 hours per week in a social setting... I have never NOT gone to school/college and/or worked full time. I have always lived a life surrounded by people. And at work, I have always been forced to interact with people. And no, it hasn't gotten easier. Not even a little bit. I keep plowing through because I need to help support my family but it's extremely hard on me and when people say that you just need to force yourself to interact... well, I do that, and even after all these years it still has me feeling that I would rather just fall asleep and never have to wake up to another day...

So to the original poster... It's great that you got over your issue... and maybe you CAN help some people... but please don't undermine people's suffering and presume that what worked for you will work for everyone... We are not all like you...

EXACTLY. Thank you. the original poster and marie-troll have no idea what they are talking about. i never post on suicide threads and they assume we don't try at all. like i don't smile at people. like i don't say hi and talk to people. i am a WAITRESS. i say hi and smile all the fucking time. i TRY all the fucking time. i have submerged myself in interactive social situations and my anxiety and fears have not gone away at all. these people are trolls with a bunch of assumptions and zero understanding.

 

[Shaun]

A waitress? wow, I would never consider a job where I had to deal with the public all day long. I am a gardener, I am pretty good at it and have done it for many years, and yes I do have to interact for awhile, once people know I am good at what I do I get to spend most of my working day alone. Hmmmn alone just shot my self in the foot.

Kudos to you Dottie

 

[dottie]

A waitress? wow, I would never consider a job where I had to deal with the public all day long. I am a gardener, I am pretty good at it and have done it for many years, and yes I do have to interact for awhile, once people know I am good at what I do I get to spend most of my working day alone. Hmmmn alone just shot my self in the foot.

Kudos to you Dottie

thanks. i feel like i am at my breaking point, though, like i'm going to snap and lose it. how did you become a gardener? how could i become a gardener? that job sounds FANTASTIC. do you have to take lots of horticulture classes?

 

[Marie_knowsbestt]

dottie-troll, its ya fucking job to smile mate, dont act like its a big deal! lol

we are not trolls you idiot, we are people obviously with alot more gutts and get go in life that you are! you have no idea. why is that some people think that you couldnt of possibly had sa in the past if your 'normal' now? well if you think that, why are u complaing about sa? u obvs never gonna get better if sikwitt couldnt of possibly of got better.

what makes you the exception dottie?

 

[dottie]

dottie-troll, its ya fucking job to smile mate, dont act like its a big deal! lol

we are not trolls you idiot, we are people obviously with alot more gutts and get go in life that you are! you have no idea. why is that some people think that you couldnt of possibly had sa in the past if your 'normal' now? well if you think that, why are u complaing about sa? u obvs never gonna get better if sikwitt couldnt of possibly of got better.

what makes you the exception dottie?

if you truly had social phobia in your life you would be more understanding than telling people that you have more guts than them and to just get over it. you would understand the lows and be more sympathetic than to just write people off as gutless, especially when they are making a huge effort in the face of this adversity. this is how it is clearly obvious you have never truly dealt with this mental disorder.

there is a huge difference between being shy and having a full blown anxiety disorder. if you had any true experience with this you would understand.

i'm not going to waste my time trying to educate you on social phobia and how physical symptoms can take over your body. you are trolling for a fight. you come across as very accusing, argumentative, and disagreeable. you also come across as uneducated with your run-on sentences and bad spelling. if it walks like a troll...

is there a way to ignore certain user's posts on this forum? a block button of some sort?

 

[autumn_82]

dottie-troll, its ya fucking job to smile mate, dont act like its a big deal! lol

we are not trolls you idiot, we are people obviously with alot more gutts and get go in life that you are! you have no idea. why is that some people think that you couldnt of possibly had sa in the past if your 'normal' now? well if you think that, why are u complaing about sa? u obvs never gonna get better if sikwitt couldnt of possibly of got better.

what makes you the exception dottie?

Wow, tone it down. Now you're just verbally abusing people. I reported you to the mods.

 

[faithnomore]

dottie-troll, its ya fucking job to smile mate, dont act like its a big deal! lol

we are not trolls you idiot, we are people obviously with alot more gutts and get go in life that you are! you have no idea. why is that some people think that you couldnt of possibly had sa in the past if your 'normal' now? well if you think that, why are u complaing about sa? u obvs never gonna get better if sikwitt couldnt of possibly of got better.

what makes you the exception dottie?

if you truly had social phobia in your life you would be more understanding than telling people that you have more guts than them and to just get over it. you would understand the lows and be more sympathetic than to just write people off as gutless, especially when they are making a huge effort in the face of this adversity. this is how it is clearly obvious you have never truly dealt with this mental disorder.

there is a huge difference between being shy and having a full blown anxiety disorder. if you had any true experience with this you would understand.

i'm not going to waste my time trying to educate you on social phobia and how physical symptoms can take over your body. you are trolling for a fight. you come across as very accusing, argumentative, and disagreeable. you also come across as uneducated with your run-on sentences and bad spelling. if it walks like a troll...

is there a way to ignore certain user's posts on this forum? a block button of some sort?

I've noticed "marieknowsbest" posts a load of crap about people all the time. Best to ignore.

Or maybe we should have a go at her lol

 

[VioletTears]

dottie-troll, its ya fucking job to smile mate, dont act like its a big deal! lol

we are not trolls you idiot, we are people obviously with alot more gutts and get go in life that you are! you have no idea. why is that some people think that you couldnt of possibly had sa in the past if your 'normal' now? well if you think that, why are u complaing about sa? u obvs never gonna get better if sikwitt couldnt of possibly of got better.

what makes you the exception dottie?

Well, if I had to choose, I think it's better to have a heart than to have guts...


Marie, why do you do this? Are you sick of feeling powerless and it makes you feel strong? Are you refusing to recognize that pain is real because you don't want yours to be real? Is it something else? Or do you just really, truly not care about people's feelings? And if you really CAN'T relate to people's feelings, then what is it that makes you want to be here?

I really do believe that deep down inside people are good... but these sorts of responses don't really make sense to me.

 

[Marie_knowsbestt]

yeh have a go at me lol i dont give a fuck do i? coz im a troll thats what i want dont i! lol go ahead...run to mummy. jog along now. report me, virtually arrest me. do it.

ok love. no need to throw ur toys outa the pram, we get it, u r dying and should proberly be in hospital or something....we get it.

you know very little about me. im not gonna talk about it. coz it dont matter. it wouldnt matter if i said i had SA or not, you wouldnt believe me anyways, because i dont tick the boxes for a person with social phobia, personality wise i guess. what do i know. lol.

anyways. this started because u accused of sikwitt of not ever having socail phobia, basicly calling them a troll because they merely described how they done it, and you didnt like it one bit. i still think your a narrow minded prick. but never mind. you think the same of me. im ok with that.

 

[Marie_knowsbestt]

i can relate to peoples feelings. which is why i got annoyed with dotties response to sikwitt, coz of that was me, and i had SA and i was just saying i cured it, i would be hurt that someone mocked me for it, and accused me of being a liar, this is for people of have recovered as well as suffers. if u read back, it didnt start like this. when i get called a troll for a response to that comment. thats when i get annoyed and dont care about her feelings. why would i?

 

[Argamemnon]

ps: dating 3 girls at once makes you a total fucking creep.

but then a 32 year-old virgin is creepier, isn't it?

 

[Sikwitit]

Wow looks like i hit a nerve, who are you to tell me i dont know what SA feels like when i was dealing with it my whole life?

Yea i may have made it seem like it was that easy when i know it's not, just a little push for some to make the task less difficult then it really is.

You call going into a cold sweat not being able to breathe feeling like the world is staring at you not SA?

Or how about sitting in the back of class not saying a word to anyone, going to lunch alone coming home not speaking to my own family locking myself in my room cause i was afraid of everybody?

Or ready to burst into tears when im put on the spot infront of everybody?


I dont have to justify anything for anybody i know what ive been through, an i also know its not the end of the world.

Maybe i hit rock bottom an got tired of crying an decided to do something about it since the meds were not helping or the psych.

If your that hopeless an have already given up then i feel for you, but only you can make yourself better.

No doctor no pills are gonna do it for you i really do think SA is linked to low self esteem cause i had both an still havent cured it but im alot happier

Im just tired of reading all these topics but nobody really offering a solution an when somebody does offer some advice this happens....

I mean your a waitress with SA i find that hard to understand, if you wanna point fingers at people saying they dont have SA an dont know what it feels like you should start with yourself.

 

[dottie]

Wow looks like i hit a nerve, who are you to tell me i dont know what SA feels like when i was dealing with it my whole life?

Yea i may have made it seem like it was that easy when i know it's not, just a little push for some to make the task less difficult then it really is.

You call going into a cold sweat not being able to breathe feeling like the world is staring at you not SA?

Or how about sitting in the back of class not saying a word to anyone, going to lunch alone coming home not speaking to my own family locking myself in my room cause i was afraid of everybody?

Or ready to burst into tears when im put on the spot infront of everybody?


I dont have to justify anything for anybody i know what ive been through, an i also know its not the end of the world.

Maybe i hit rock bottom an got tired of crying an decided to do something about it since the meds were not helping or the psych.

If your that hopeless an have already given up then i feel for you, but only you can make yourself better.

No doctor no pills are gonna do it for you i really do think SA is linked to low self esteem cause i had both an still havent cured it but im alot happier

Im just tired of reading all these topics but nobody really offering a solution an when somebody does offer some advice this happens....

I mean your a waitress with SA i find that hard to understand, if you wanna point fingers at people saying they dont have SA an dont know what it feels like you should start with yourself.

you're right. i want to apologize for my first post directed to you. i reread your post and i don't think you're trolling. i also reread my post and thought it was pretty nasty. i'm not sure what got over me but i want to apologize to you for that.

i am a waitress, it's true. but it takes everything out of me just to show up. when i am interacting with tables i often cannot think, slur my speech, stutter, and feel like i'm pissing myself. i just want to run and hide away. but i force myself to show up and endure it. i don't know how much longer i can hold out. anyway, yeah... that's beside the point, i guess. i just wanted to apologize to you for the first post.

 

[autumn_82]

Well Sikwitit, if you have overcome your SA then you must be in a position to offer advice to those of us who still struggle with it. You would also think you could be a bit more compassionate and less harsh and impatient when speaking to those still dealing with SA and all its accompanying feelings of frustration and despair. You've been there, right?

So why don't you tell us, step-by-step, what you did to go from having SA to having a new truck and three? girlfriends. Because that would be much more helpful (and practical) than screaming at people to quit their whining and just get over it, because it doesn't seem like you just suddenly got over it. Didn't it take lots of hard work, for seven years? Nobody is just going to snap out of their SA--you didn't. I'm sure most of us have already been told to do that, and it did nothing but further frustrate us.

Your rant was a "little push" to make overcoming SA less difficult?! You must never have been to therapy, or weren't paying attention while you were there. But they talk your problems out with you, then help you to change yourself a little at a time with tips, support, and encouragement. They NEVER belittle anyone, which is what you did to all of us.

So if you've gotten to a point where you're significantly improved, yet still want to post here, help others, don't hurt them. You say you're tired of nobody offering a solution, well then YOU OFFER ONE.

 

[w*n*c*a*m]

I'm wondering how this thread became so negative when what the author just did is to give us a word of encouragement about overcoming SA?... :?

 

[autumn_82]

I'm wondering how this thread became so negative when what the author just did is to give us a word of encouragement about overcoming SA?... :?

Well, it started when Marieknowsbest told Dottie to fuck herself. It went downhill from there.

 

[Marie_knowsbest]

yeh i admit that the obvious abuse like name calling etc was my fault and i started, but the generally negativity started with dotties post, which she has now apolagised for, and can now see that for herself anyways without me having to say, or she wouldnt of apolagised. so i also apolagise for my language.

but ya know. im not going to get mouthy this time. but autumn-82, why are you still testing sikwitt? because like wingcharm said, the author was merely giving you some encouragment, because how many people come on here sayin ''look guys im ok, i am, u can be too''....not many. you get more people in the suicide threads than the support threads.

i dont think sikwitt needs to make a step by step guide of how he did overcome his SA to make it valid, or to proof to you autunm that its valid. i dont think its a really 'compassioniate' of you to say he 'obviosuly didnt go to theory or try it or listen' because you dont know that. I had theorpy before and it done fuck all for me, i didnt have SA, i wont go into my problems, its not about me, i helped myself all by myself. thats just what worked for me.

so if sikwitt wants to put how he done it. then fair enough. but he has nothing to feel sorry for, nothing to proove, and nothing to justify. niether do you have to applaude him or look up to him. just learn from him.

 

[Shaun]

Right you lot, just stop it before I slap your silly heads together. Honestly what are people who come here gonna think if they read all this nonsense. Sikwitit If you really had all the answers you wouldn't be involving yourself in petty squabbles I have lived with this illness for 28 years trust me it doesn't go away, you have to learn to work around it which i think is what you are talking about. If you guys are anything like me then I can tell you that your biggest fear is being alone and your biggest enemy is having a hissy fit because you think people are not paying enough attention to you. This goes for all you guys and girls. Take a big breath and think about this, and if you still feel the need to come back at me for saying this then I will understand...yeah but he said...yeah.. but she said.... :roll:

 

[Marie_knowsbest]

yeh its what i suffered with after psychosis which is very common apparently, and i know a old skool friend who also had it. but like the film de-picts. in the end he doesnt feed into it, and u see him smiling and stuff. i can go through patches of it, its a defense mechanism apparently, rather than a mental problem. on its own that is, not mixed with depression or SA which it is closely linked too.

i think my advice would to invest lots of time into looking back at old photos of holiday and stuff, like stuff that makes u happy, coz it can ease it off a little bit. spend time with people u enjoy the company off. and basicly concentrate on doing things which u know used to give u joy, and proberly still do, but at the moment ur jus closed off from it. its had up to a 82% prevalance rate, but like i said, many people with it learn to accept it and lead normal lifes. just dont feed in to the emptyness feeling.