Censorship

Ashiene

Well-known member
I really HATE censorship. Censorship in my opinion is simply a very easy way for the government to control its people by limiting what its people can see or do or hear. Do you know that North Korea has very heavy censorship so that the public can only hear the good things about their government?
 

2Crowded

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Im ok with some censorship really cause without a bit of it we'd have naked people walking uptown...I dont think we would be better for it as a society...so there needs to be some rules in place...even though im sure nudists would argue that that is unfair to them.
 

Remus

Moderator
Staff member
Snuff videos and kiddy porn are two good examples of why censorship is important.

One country differs from the next in less extreme example of censorship. The Arab world is very strict obviously but say Japan with Hentai "rape play" is less so, despite that porn in Japan has the genitals blured out.

Censorship by democracy is fair IMO
 

Danfalc

Banned
It really depends on the situation I think,Like a few people have said there are good reasons for censorship,but like most things it can be abused or used for wrong reasons.
 
Censorship encompasses the right & wrong and the public and government decide within a certain subject what is acceptable. Without censorship, there would be chaos & disorder.
 

Cynic

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Snuff videos and kiddy porn are two good examples of why censorship is important.
Not quite the same thing, as the above depict serious crimes. Censorship of consenting adults is a different matter though.

Is censorship the same as bullying? I think it is, but what do u think?
In the case of consenting adults, yes, censorship is bullying, IMO.
 

doesit

Well-known member
Not quite the same thing, as the above depict serious crimes. Censorship of consenting adults is a different matter though.


In the case of consenting adults, yes, censorship is bullying, IMO.
No its the Law.for example you wouldnt want to watch on the news when someone is scrapping dead body off the road after the accident.
 

krs2snow

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Censorship is a repression or suppression of thoughts & ideas. It's a passive thing that's done by deleting stuff to influence the outcome. Bullying is an action. It's an act thats done to hurt someone. Both share a common theme- controlling the situation. But they're different. Censorship could be used as a tool for bullying.
 
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Cynic

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No its the Law.
The law is made by, and for, small groups of people in high up places and has little bearing on the rest of us unless it suits them. Laws also vary over time and place. The way things are going in the developed world, freedom of expression will be totally stifled in the guise of "fighting terrorism", "hate speech", or some other politically-correct bullshit by those with G0d complex and political agendas.

for example you wouldnt want to watch on the news when someone is scrapping dead body off the road after the accident.
Maybe you wouldn't. Personally I wouldn't care.

Censorship could be used as a tool for bullying.
Exactly.
 
Censorship is a repression or suppression of thoughts & ideas. It's a passive thing that's done by deleting stuff to influence the outcome. Bullying is an action. It's an act thats done to hurt someone. Both share a common theme- controlling the situation. But they're different. Censorship could be used as a tool for bullying.

Yes, censorship could be used as a tool for bullying, but when used appropriately, it's not necessarily "an act that's done to hurt someone." I am not sure if this is a good analogy, but violence is also a tool for bullying, but if you are completely against violence, then would you not defend yourself or a loved one with violence if someone tried to hurt you or a family member?
 
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Felgen

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I'm against most forms of cencorship (the expection would for example be if Nickelodeon started airing hardcore porn at noon time). Luckily there's not much cencorship here in Norway; swearing, full frontal nudity and realistic blood isn't frowned upon in prime time television, newspapers or radio.
 
from Promoting press freedom in bloody times - The Hill's Congress Blog

Promoting press freedom in bloody times

By Committee to Protect Journalists Washington Rep. Frank Smyth - 12/17/09 01:13 PM ET

This week press freedom took one step forward and one step back. Yesterday the House passed the Daniel Pearl Freedom of the Press Act, which --with an identical Senate bill already having cleared committee-- seems likely to reach President Obama’s desk by early 2010. Today the Committee to Protect Journalists announced that more journalists, 68, were killed to date in 2009 than in any year on record since CPJ was founded back in 1981.

The rising death toll for journalists is one reason why the legislation named after the late Wall Street Journal correspondent is so important. The Daniel Pearl Act would require the State Department to annually report to Congress an array of restrictions in each nation from censorship to “indirect pressure,” from imprisonment to violent attacks. The report would further identify the forces suspected of being responsible for suspected violent attacks, in addition to reporting whether governments are condoning the violence, or attempting to bring the perpetrators to justice.



Is this really necessary? Consider this. Three out of four journalists killed around the world didn’t step on a landmine, or get shot in crossfire, or die in a suicide bombing. No, nearly 75 percent of the 795 journalists killed worldwide since 1992 were murdered outright --gunned down by an unidentified assailant like Russia’s Anna Politkovskaya, or executed by their kidnappers like the Journal’s Daniel Pearl.

How often do the killers get away with it? In nearly nine out of ten cases, or in 89 percent of journalist murders around the globe the perpetrators enjoy blanket impunity where no one is prosecuted whatsoever. Most of the journalists were targeted over their efforts to report on matters from politics to corruption. Only in four percent of journalist murder cases worldwide have both the physical and intellectual authors of the murders been brought to justice.

One-third of murdered journalists were slain by terrorists or other armed groups, according to CPJ research dating back to 1992. But even more journalists, 36 percent, were murdered by government officials of one kind or another or their paramilitary allies. The death toll of 30 journalists out of a total of 57 people murdered last month in Maguindanao in the Philippines is what sent this year’s figure for journalists killed worldwide to a record high. But the case also seems consistent with other trends. The only suspect arrested so far is the son of the Maguindanao governor and brother of the governor for the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao in the same province.

Russia is another nation with many unsolved journalist murders. Last week 70 members of the House from both sides of the aisle and led by the House Foreign Affairs ranking minority member Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida signed a letter to President Obama about Russia's "alarming situation facing proponents of human rights and the rule of law.” In September the Committee to Protect Journalists issued a comprehensive report, Anatomy of Injustice, detailing the case evidence and prosecutorial shortcomings in the murders of no less than 17 journalists in Russia since just 2000. Since the report went to press two more journalists have been murdered. In only two of all these cases have the physical killers been convicted, one of them of a lesser crime. Moreover, the alleged masterminds in all 19 cases remain at large.

“It is a sad irony,” noted in the report’s preface author and journalist Kati Marton who also sits on CPJ’s board. “While the world celebrates the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall, Russia itself is relapsing to some of its Soviet ways. In fact, for journalists, Russia is a more dangerous place now than it was during the Cold War.”

Russia is hardly the only nation where press freedom conditions either remain under stress or have gotten worse. Earlier this month CPJ announced that there are at least 136 journalists in jail around the world. Today 50 percent of them are bloggers, Web-based reporters or online editors, rising from 45 percent last year. And most of them are also freelancers, reflecting an ongoing transition from large, traditional to small, independent media breaking news worldwide.

China continues to be the world’s worst jailer of journalists with 24 behind bars, a dishonor it has held for 11 consecutive years. Next on the list with 23 journalists in jail is Iran, which this year in the wake of a recent election crackdown surpassed Cuba, which now has 22 journalists incarcerated. The tiny African Horn nation of Eritrea follows with 19 journalists, all of whom are not only jailed but have also been held incommunicado without access to either their families or the International Committee of the Red Cross in most cases for more than eight years.

Imprisonment and murder, of course, are only among the most obvious ways to restrict the press. The Daniel Pearl Act would require the State Department to inform Congress about many other measures in between like failing to renew a major opposition broadcaster’s license in Venezuela, or having a journalist disappear after being arrested in the Gambia, or putting a journalist under constant surveillance in Tunisia, or threatening a journalist in Belarus that she’ll end up like Anna Politkovskaya, or cutting a journalist with a razor blade and rolling her down a hill in Nepal.

The language in both the bills that passed the House yesterday and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee last month have dropped a previous provision that would have provided funding to support independent media in select nations. Instead the legislation’s sole focus now is to broaden and deepen Foggy Bottom’s focus on press freedom. It’s more than needed in today’s troubled times.

Note: CPJ is a worldwide watchdog that accepts no government funds as it defends the rights of journalists everywhere to report the news without fear of reprisal.


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Promoting press freedom in bloody times - The Hill's Congress Blog
 
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