23 yr old female - never been in a relationship

well hoth why are you here in this forum and not enjoying your amazing social life. as you pointed out social anxiety are only reserve for people who get to go out and party and feel anxious. But you forgot about the people who feels anxious just by going out to the shops or walking around the block.

thanks for making the agoraphobics like me feel like we don't belong here considering that I dont party and go clubbing as much as you do.

And dont start patronising them for being brave, their just the lucky ones who have an easier life and have heaps of friends
 
LonelyLoser said:
well hoth why are you here in this forum and not enjoying your amazing social life. [...] thanks for making the agoraphobics like me feel like we don't belong here considering that I dont party and go clubbing as much as you do.

Do you have some alternate set of posts you wrote yourself which you read in place of ours? If you're reading the posts written, you know very well that I don't have any offline social life and have never been to parties/clubs.

If you've stepped outside for the mail this year, why are you here in this forum when there are agoraphobics here (not me) who haven't been outside for years? Are you thus a pretender with a great life who doesn't belong here?
 

Kien

Well-known member
cobalt_bluester said:
try not to worry things will come good for you eventually I am sure. I didn't have a girlfriend until the age of 30.
But's in the youth that life matters most.
 
I'm 41 and never had a boyfriend, I was close to getting one but he turn out to be gay.. Sometimes I wish I wasn't born. I'd be happier if I get killed in an accident, that way I won't suffer any longer.. :cry:
 

danisky

Active member
I'm 20 and I've never had a boyfriend or even been close to having one at all. Never been kissed either. I don't know if guys find me attractive or not, but I don't believe in my looks anyway. There's waaay too many girls out there who are easily more beautiful than me. Why would a guy want to be with me? I would screw up the relationship at one time or another anyway...

oh yes I'm new by the way.
 

Satine

Well-known member
LonelyLoser said:
theres like a member in a lonely forum who whinges how lonely she is but she has alot of close contacts and she fucks 7 guys in 7 days and parties like no tommorow. ppl like that pisses me off about how they lie about their problems.

I don't usually respond to rants - especially those of friends who are angry - but LL, I genuinely think you need to be a touch mor careful about calling a girl promiscuous. Blackhole has made it clear that she is nothing such.

While I think that Blackhole is being a little too choosy - she can never be sure a guy is a loser until she gets to know him properly, so why not give him a chance? - I don't think it's worth verbally abusing her, especially considering that there is almost no moderation here and that you've done it by PM.

Yes, you have problems with SA, yes your problems are valid. But so are others' problems with SA. Even if you believe your SA to be stronger / more valid than others' here, who benefits from you verbally assaulting them?

I really think that we can all benefit from somebody like blackhole - she knows what SA is like but she's not quite floored by it enough to never go out at all: she therefore has the benefit of being able to go out in situations that not everybody with SA can. If she can do it, so can others.

So let's just give her the benefit of the doubt, okay? Please do not take this to be a verbal assault on you as it is not. I am simply trying to calm things down here.
 

oNecoOlazN

Well-known member
hm...im suddenly getting the feeling that SOME or shall i say ALOT of ppl on SPW arnt really social phobics at all and are only on here and post to make FUN... :roll:
 

oNecoOlazN

Well-known member
LonelyDaisy said:
I'm 41 and never had a boyfriend, I was close to getting one but he turn out to be gay.. Sometimes I wish I wasn't born. I'd be happier if I get killed in an accident, that way I won't suffer any longer.. :cry:

^for example this person. just go do your own stuff. your making shi* up, obviously.
 

kiwimanji

Member
You know how you all can get out there and get a boyfriend/girlfriend? GET OUT MORE!!!! Turn off the computer, television, radio, and live more in the world around you. I don't care if you go to the bookstore, supermarket, club, just go somewhere (outside of home). Find a good hobby. (Many I understand have performance anxiety at doing certain things, like dancing, etc. I know it happens to me a lot so it makes me way too self-conscious, which is bad. :( ) I don't know if what I have is SA or not, but because of it, I've never had a girlfriend, and am still a virgin. I don't like saying that I have some condition because then it starts to make me feel different from everyone else.

Anyways, thought I'd post something.
 

C-47

Member
I'm nearly 21. I've never had a gf or dated. This is the worst thing about having a social anxiety disorder. I suffer depression too. This really sucks but I believe there is someone for everyone. I never thought I'd say this but I'm actually glad I'm a virgin. I'm getting help with my problems, am a more mature person and know how a strong relationship can be formed. So my first time will be with someone I love and want to spend the rest of my life with. Anyone else here can share this with their other half when they find them. I still feel extremely lonely at times but just try to imagine your soulmate whoever he/she is. Someone will appreciate u for who u are. Just because of our sa, and being single all our lives, doesn't make us less of a person. Its a start by accepting u for u. I know there are lots of great ppl here who haven't been in relationships so we shouldn't try to be a different person. The world will be alot better when we meet our other halves. Damn I wish talking to women was as easy as it was talking here. Well gd luck and nobody be ashamed of being single.
 

C-47

Member
Riiya said:
C-47 said:
Damn I wish talking to women was as easy as it was talking here.

Women are people, too, you know.

I know that, its not that I have anything against women or don't respect them or see them as anything strange or scary. My SAD and depression just makes my thoughts seem irrational. This may be hard to understand cause u probably have different problems to me. I just wish I was not as awkward and nervous when around people I am interested in. Obviously its women who I am most interested to get to know and make connections with and this is why I find talking to them more challenging. i guess I have a fear of rejection still.
 

KurtG85

Well-known member
I am a 24 Y-O male with severe SAD, depression, OCD, and PTSD. I frankly would never have had any girlfriends at all if it weren't for a girl asking ME out at 18 yrs old. Just having that experience, even though it was an exceedingly shallow, short relationship went a long way at showing me that I actually do have some things to offer in a relationship (even though I was 100% completely and totally resigned to the fact that I would never in a million years ever have a relationship with a girl at that point in time).

The scariest thing is indeed asking someone out or being asked out. Most especially the first time. So just realize that once you get over that first hurdle it gets easier, easier as in still very difficult and scary, but easier. Don't worry, that first hurdle is absolutely supposed to be TERRIBLY awkward, it is for most everyone. Just like when we learned to ride a bike we didnt just hop on and start wheelieing down the street, we fell on our ass a few times. That is normal and your goal should be to at least "get on the bike" and fall on your ass a few times, thats how you learn and get more comfortable with it.

Therefore I think the most important thing to do is to just get out on a date or something SOMEHOW. There are of course many ways to meet people, friends, bars, shows, the internet, just walking up and chatting with someone and give them your number, in case they would like to talk some more sometime (that way you are not putting yourself on the spot for instant rejection, which everyone experiences and should not be feared). Not to glorify alcohol use too much but frankly it can be a great tool at helping you overcome that first time hurdle of approaching someone of the opposite sex. Get some beers in you and you'll be doing things you never thought possible, lol. Of course being drunk isn't the best way to always carry yourself but I think it helps to show that opening up is the only way to really make things happen. Of course its more difficult while not drunk but it can help you get a taste of the reward (getting to know someone new and having a good time because you opened up and got past that initial awkward introduction stage) so that you realize things are possible if you just push yourself to take the risk.

You could also make your goal to politely introduce yourself and just talk shallowly about anything with as many guys as you can during a typical day (if you were a guy I would suggest asking for a number but maybe as a girl you should just chat with them and expect them to make a move... I dont know ... give your number if you like them and they are respectful). The biggest factor in meeting someone is opening your mouth and TALKING to people, even though I understand how hard that is for us social phobics.

My view is 15 out of every 20 people probably wont "click" with any one of us and wouldn't make that good a match of a friend or relationship partner anyway, therefore to increase your chances of meeting someone that would be a good potential match for you we have to communicate with as many people as possible. Otherwise, the perfect match for you could be walking by you everyday and he could be the guy who looks like the stuck up jock type which you despise yet once you actually just say "hello" you may realize he is actually the sweet geeky type of dude you can connect with underneath the leather jacket of his, so to speak.

Make your goal to be rejected as many times as you can during the day. I have done that before and it is actually kind of funny and rewarding in a sense if you approach it with the right attitude. Going in with your GOAL being to get rejected while just trying to get to know someone politely makes it pretty hard to 'lose', even though it still of course is going to be naturally somewhat difficult and awkward (the whole point is that it WILL get less so with time). Just walk around and 'throw yourself' at people. By this I mean just engage them with your natural personality and see how it goes. Some interactions you will find to be quite awkward and some you will find you are completely amazingly instantly comfortable. Yes, this is terrifying at first too but that is the whole point, you MUST ENGAGE IN REPEATED EXPOSURES in order to first overcome and then lessen the fear response. I have done this only a couple of days on my campus, been rejected and looked at sort of awkwardly by a few girls... and had others clearly respectful of me by the time I said goodbye who clearly thought I was a creep when I first said "hi". The point is I have grown slightly more comfortable with and learned a bit more about how to better handle myself in such situations as a result.

Lastly I will say to never ever build up in your mind how a situation is supposed to go or how a person is supposed to be or how they are supposed to react to us, or even exactly how we are supposed to or "need" to act. It never will go exactly as we plan and that is just setting ourselves up for disappointment. Like riding a bike, it doesn't matter how many times you go over it in your head, you will never get any closer to being successful without getting on and falling on your ass many times. Make your goal to fall on your ass. I know that is exactly what us social phobics fear most but the fact is that is exactly what you need to do in order to gain confidence.
 
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