10 years from now!

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WelshOne

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klytus said:
This is a weak mentality, in my judgment. No person could ever be important enough for me to drop what I live for.
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Well, you may live for work, or money, but personally I find happiness in the love of those around me. Sounds really cheesy, but it's true. Money won't ever buy me happiness, but a wife and family would. So yes, I'd put my family before my career. And I don't think that I'm weak at all, I obviously just have different values to you. My main goal in life is to have a wife and children, and my career is only there to support them.

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I don't think so. It's not just about having a job, it's about liking the job. If you don't like the job, you won't be able to sustain a positive attitude towards it. You are bound to fail in the long run and there simply aren't enough jobs to be able to switch at will.
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Who said the RAF is the only career I could ever enjoy? I have many interests. I'll be starting a college course on Vehicle Technology and Motorsport soon, and I'd be quite happy running my own garage, or even just working for someone else in a car related environment. That's naming just one other career option for me. And as for failure, well that depends on your definition of success.
 
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And I don't think that I'm weak at all, I obviously just have different values to you.
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It's not about values, WelshOne. It's about the immaturity which underlies the statement that you would consider quitting your career, were you to meet the right woman. There either is no right woman, or you will never know in advance. Putting your family before your career is fine, but it is not advisable to drop any career because you think it would make your girlfriend love you more. Plus that if she were to ask you to, she wouldn't be the right one. It's just stupid to put years of effort into a career only to quit it because some girl wanted you to, directly or indirectly.

Money won't ever buy me happiness, but a wife and family would.
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This reminds me of guys saying they'd lose their anxiety around girls and accept themselves were they to finally have sex and someone who loves them. The point is, there is no way you could tell whether you and your romantic partner won't ever split up. A family is not just about love or happiness. And a romantic relationship initially is about neither.

Quitting one's career for anything as transient as romantic relationships is immature.

My main goal in life is to have a wife and children, and my career is only there to support them.
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You obviously have no idea what it takes to sustain a family of four people. (In average, I'd say it's likely you may have two children.) Dropping a high-income position under such circumstances is foolish. So, you either don't fulfill your wife's wish to move to the countryside, or you can't give your (future) children the financial attention that they need. There are lots of cases where both you and your wife must compromise.
 
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Hm..
what job am i applying to ?? (joke)
Usually you get this question at interviews only its where do you see yourself in 5 years :D
answer is i dont know but i hope in a better position than now :)
 
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WelshOne

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You seem to consider your career very highly. You say I'm mentaly weak for my willingness to sacrifice a would-be career (in my original post I said I would give up my PLANS, not a current career. Serously, if I join the RAF and then meet someone, tough, because you can't just "quit" the military.) But I ask you to consider the following: If money is the route of all evil, and power corrupts all, then surely those who strive or lust for money and power (ie, a good career) are the truly weak ones. Money and power are man-made commodities, love is a natural human emotion (made by God, if you like) and a lot more important, in my book.

And I don't pretend to be able to see into the future. I accept I'll never know without doubt that I will be with a person for the rest of my life, so I guess the difference between you and me is that I'm willing to risk possible sadness in the future for the chance of happiness forever.

You obviously have no idea what it takes to sustain a family of four people. (In average, I'd say it's likely you may have two children.) Dropping a high-income position under such circumstances is foolish. So, you either don't fulfill your wife's wish to move to the countryside, or you can't give your children the financial attention that they need.
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I'm not sure your reading my posts properly... when have I suggested dropping a high-income career? In my first year in the RAF I'll be earning under £18k. And I'll say again, my original post said I'd be willing to sacrifice my plans. Plans are nothing more than thoughts in my head - I have a lot of them. I never said I'd put myself in poverty and then decide to try and provide for a family. Needless to say, though, that many families around the world do manage in such situations.
 
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klytus

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I'm not sure your reading my posts properly... when have I suggested dropping a high-income career? In my first year in the RAF I'll be earning under £18k. And I'll say again, my original post said I'd be willing to sacrifice my plans. Plans are nothing more than thoughts in my head - I have a lot of them. I never said I'd put myself in poverty and then decide to try and provide for a family. Needless to say, though, that many families around the world do manage in such situations.
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Oh, well, that depends a lot on your definition of "plans". I consider a career to remain an eternal plan, since you will never be able to get to the top (there is no top), the pleasure will always be to walk the path. If you drop viable 'plans' before you start walking them, it's fine, since not much could be lost.

You say I'm mentally weak for my willingness to sacrifice a would-be career
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No, I said I find it to be a "weak mentality". More like a misleading mind-set.

If money is the route of all evil, and power corrupts all, then surely those who strive or lust for money and power (ie, a good career) are the truly weak ones. <...> love is a natural human emotion (made by God, if you like.)
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For me neither money, power nor love are important. And since I am not religious, it is not relevant to me what kind of being may have created 'emotions'. I wasn't saying that you should stick to some career because of the money. It's more like a misunderstanding due to a difference in the definitions of 'plan' and 'happiness'.
 
PennyLane

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I would like to be a mum in 10 years...be in love, have a house by the sea, with dogs and barefoot muddy kids getting in my way :)
 
Blue Teardrops

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WelshOne said:
Well, you may live for work, or money, but personally I find happiness in the love of those around me. Sounds really cheesy, but it's true. Money won't ever buy me happiness, but a wife and family would. So yes, I'd put my family before my career. And I don't think that I'm weak at all, I obviously just have different values to you. My main goal in life is to have a wife and children, and my career is only there to support them.



Who said the RAF is the only career I could ever enjoy? I have many interests. I'll be starting a college course on Vehicle Technology and Motorsport soon, and I'd be quite happy running my own garage, or even just working for someone else in a car related environment. That's naming just one other career option for me. And as for failure, well that depends on your definition of success.
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You and klytus both make interesting points, and I think that happiness depends on the individual's personality and in the specific things one looks for to find said happiness. I don't think your wishes are weak minded, WelshOne, for wanting happiness and if you find happiness in another woman, that is fantastic, as I hope to find happiness in another man.

On a personal level, I would never want to sacrifice my career plans for another man, because I cannot guarantee that one day he won't decide, "I don't love her any more" and leave on a whim or run away with another woman, and then I find myself regretting the sacrifices I made for him. And as a woman, I must make sure I am dependent on absolutely no one. However, I would not hesitate to make sacrifices for my children, if I ever have any, or my parents or sibling, and if a man establishes himself as loyal part of my family, then he too falls into that very circle. For me, family comes first, over success, over career. But at the same time, I would not want a man who expects me to sacrifice something I have worked so hard for, just as I would not expect him to do the same. Finding middle ground is always an option if two people love each other enough.

Then again, I have never been in love, nor has anyone ever loved me. So, I cannot predict any judgments I will make because I cannot foretell what my circumstances will look like if that time does come.
 
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Although I don't expect any romance in my future, I do hope to have a stable career and to be more excepting and happy with myself. Since I wont be around forever I want to find something to appreciate life for.
 
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WelshOne

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Blue Teardrops said:
For me, family comes first, over success, over career. But at the same time, I would not want a man who expects me to sacrifice something I have worked so hard for, just as I would not expect him to do the same. Finding middle ground is always an option if two people love each other enough.
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I very much agree. It would be selfish or someone to ask their partner to give up something hard-earned (generally speaking,) and I don't think someone in love would ask that of their partner.

I guess when I said I would give up my career plans, I was thinking of if, say, I met someone from another country and had to move there to be with them. Obviously it would mean not joining the military, and I would gladly do that if I was in love. I'm not saying it would be easy, mind. Especially if she lived in France ::p: Just kidding, we love the French here in the UK :rolleyes:

I'm well aware that I'm a little blinded by the idea of love, and that in reality things aren't so simple. As a result of this I'm going to have to be careful in life, because I think I'll fall in love too easily.
 
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if all goes well, doing research in cognitive psychology. it's going to require getting over a lot of SA though. and hopefully i'll have time and energy for painting also.

relationships are scary though. i might end up one of those crazy cat people. but maybe therapy will work, and i'll be able to get close to someone without freaking out.
 
Lorraine Manca

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Given the current rate of mental deterioration, in ten years, my head will be spinning 360's while i spew split pea soup like that little girl off the exorcist. And of course, I'll be happily married, because who could resist the charm of projectile vomit?
 
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Lorraine Manca said:
Given the current rate of mental deterioration, in ten years, my head will be spinning 360's while i spew split pea soup like that little girl off the exorcist. And of course, I'll be happily married, because who could resist the charm of projectile vomit?
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thats a nice thought :D
 
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In all seriousness, in ten years I'd like to be in a proper, loving relationship, and maybe have a child. I hoping I'll have experienced travelling (living?) overseas too. I also want to attempt to repair some relationships that have fallen apart for different reasons, like with my parents and a really great friend I had a falling out with.

Career isn't really on my mind because I already work, and I seem to climb the ranks in workplaces fairly quickly, so as long as I maintain that, I think I'll be fine.
 
Blue Teardrops

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meatcake said:
drug delivery? you mean like finding ways to get drugs to the brain, past the liver and all that? (i'd send you a VM or PM but i can't!) :)
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haha, everybody keeps getting frustrated because they can't vm/pm me :D pm's make me nervous, sorry.:cool:

About drug delivery, yeah! Basically what's really hot right now, is "smart polymers" that can respond to changes in their environment that in turn influences the way or the rate at which a drug is released into the body. One of the things that really interests me is the design characteristics of polymeric materials which allow nanoparticles carrying anticancer drugs (anticancer nanocarriers) and go directly to the tumor site, where the tumor has a higher pH than the rest of the body, which will trigger the drug to be released directly into the tumor and prevent healthy cells from being damaged in the process, which is what occurs in current chemotherapy. The challenges are to design polymers that are non-toxic, biodegradeable, and biofunctional, and site-specific without sacrificing their mechanical properties. It's an incredibly fascinating field of science and engineering.

If you're interested, here's an article that explains it a little more:

Chemomechanical Polymers - Smart Polymers for Drug Release
 
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