Uncontrollable hate.

Canis lupus

Well-known member
As some of you might have noticed in my previous posts I'm full of hate. I hate my family because they are antropocentric, I hate old people because they always have to get their way without any respect for someone else and because they slow everything down, I hate people who think that the other animals species and nature are inferior to humans and human society, I hate this safety- and health dictatorship because there are already way too much of us and we've become a real plague on this planet, I hate the Walloons, I hate people who make much more traffic violations as me being on my case because I drive too fast, I hate people being on my case because I smoke and so on.

I don't have so much trouble with the fact that I hate so many people and human society because people ask for it in all their arrogance and selfishness. Ofcourse there are always exceptions to the rule but in general people just suck. My problem is I have absolutly no control over it anymore. Every time I'm alone with my thoughts I start thinking about everything that pisses me off in the world and get extremely angry and I'm really tired of it. Every day I waste hours on this. Even when I'm studying I can't concentrate on it because I start thinking about all those things and within seconds I'm furious.

I've been trying for many months now to tell myself every time to stop it and think about something else but I just can't. I always concentrate on the bad things. It seems I'm no longer capable of seeing good things. Even if I read some positive news like animals being rescued or the few times human society is being sacrificed in service of nature I immediatly think about all the times it's the other way around and that little bit of good news becomes nothing compared to all the bad in the world.

So my question is are there people who recognize this and/or do you have any tips on how to take control of my emotions again and keep hating people, that's never going to chance with my values and opinions, without constantly wasting my time and mental health on them? How can I learn to think more about the few possitive things in life and less about all the negative ones or just say **** them all and live my own life?

Thanks for reading my rant and any tips are much appreciated.
 

dyingtolive

Well-known member
having a hobby that you love can help. having stuff/people that u love. doing stuff that u love.

at least u dont hate yourself. so thats good. i have had similar problems with hatred not towards everyone in general but towards specific things, but it can be hard to deal with. actually ive even suffered chronic migraines and chronic blindness because of anger, so i really had to do something...

just dropping the thoughts. just letting them go, just releasing them when u know u have to. to replace the thoughts with doing something else is easier, but when u have no choice, u just gotta let them go

telling yourself its not worth it helps. u dont have time for it. its really a waste. things like that to strengthen ur willpower in helping u let them go
 

Canis lupus

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Thanks for anwsering. Never thought you could get chronic blindness from anger. I'm really sorry to hear that.

I'm trying those things. Do volunteer work 2-3 days a week which I love and when I'm there it's much better but then I get in my car to drive home and it starts again. Doing stuff that I love doesn't really help, not when I'm alone anyway. Being around people seems to work the best but only have my parents and one good friend who I only see once every month-2 months or so and ofcourse the people where I do my volunteer work. Guess I just have to keep telling myself it's not worth it and hope I will listen some day and let it go like you said.

Thanks again and hope you're doing much better now.
 

Lea

Banned
I am the same in when I see a cute animal or someone rescues an animal or so, it makes me think of all the opposite cases when animals are tortured or treated with neglect. It makes me terribly sad, angry only in case when I witness a particular case. But it usually doesn´t make me angry at the whole humanity. I admire humanity partly also, because of what extraordinary intelligence and skills there are among people. Which I in most cases can´t match even closely. I wish I could understand the whole world..
 

dyingtolive

Well-known member
thanks Canis, im doing better.. actually working out and exercise helps me i think also

actually the blindness was from 'aural migraines'. everytime i did get a migraine, it came with blindness like symptoms which were even more frustrating to deal with. so when the effects of anger felt worse.

thats cool u get to do volunteer work. i hope its doing good for you.
some of my anger comes when i lose control of things that are important to me. im not controlling of others but the few things i do wish to control like my diet and my time, my doing things, my internet working... if those stuff go off i might get angry. being alone though i dont have negative thoughts..

if ever i am alone and i do have negative thoughts, it is usually from something else, and the thoughts are just the effects of the crappy way i am feeling.

the feeling crappy can be from other things as well. like, every other week, i am more relaxed and the next week i will be more reactive, i think its just a natural cycle with the body. so the weeks/days where u are feeling calm, u try your best to be positive, and then the days where ur feeling reactive or easily angry, u just try ur best not to mess up. but it happens cyclically, there will be days that u just feel like crap and any minor thing will start those negative thoughts and u just gotta try not to mess up too bad until you are in a calm mood again and it gets easier again to be less-reactive.
 

da_illest101

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I have that problem too, I think the fact that we can't do anything about it drives us even more mad. Unfortunately, me too I have no way of coping with this and I get more and more edgy about nothing.
 

Canis lupus

Well-known member
I am the same in when I see a cute animal or someone rescues an animal or so, it makes me think of all the opposite cases when animals are tortured or treated with neglect. It makes me terribly sad, angry only in case when I witness a particular case. But it usually doesn´t make me angry at the whole humanity. I admire humanity partly also, because of what extraordinary intelligence and skills there are among people. Which I in most cases can´t match even closely. I wish I could understand the whole world..

I think everyone wishes they could understand the world.
For me our intelligence is more a curse than a blessing. It's because of our intelligence that we have destroyed and are destroying forests all over the world to turn them into cities and aggriculture, that we have conquered many diseases and extended our lifes and now we are overpopulated and became a threat to all life on this planet, because of our intelligence most people consider us better and more important than the other animal species and so on. In my opinion it would've been better if we never left our caves.
Anyway thanks for replying and I love your avatar, he looks so cute.

I think the fact that we can't do anything about it drives us even more mad.

Indeed. Sometimes I have the feeling I'm making myself crazy with it. Constantly trying to fight against it, telling myself to stop it just to continue a few seconds later. Hope you find a way to take control over it some day and if you do please let me know how you did it :).

some of my anger comes when i lose control of things that are important to me.
Glad to hear you're doing better.
I'm just tired that everything I care about are constantly being destroyed or attacked by people who have absolutly no respect for it and at the same time finding it absolutly normal I still have respect for the things they find important. All my life I've been trying to find a compromise so we can live together with some respect for eachother but that's useless. Most people just want to get their way without caring about what someone else thinks or wants. But I can keep going like this and I don't want to bore you too much. Good luck with all your fights and I'll really try to follow your advice.
 

Starry

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Hello Canis Lupus,

I understand where you're coming from, and I agree with a lot of what you've said... I think the main points you should try to keep in mind are:

A. It's not "people" who are to blame but "society". Indeed, it's the people who hold the most power in society that are the problem.
B. Even when it IS people who are directly to blame, such as in the cases of cruelty... Not ALL people are like that - do you think that MOST people are cruel to animals? Really it's a small number.
C. Of the people who are destructive to the natural world, many are *unintentionally* like it and would change if they were educated in the correct manner.
D. There are many people who care deeply about the world, about animals, nature and humanity.

Try to think about the people who DO care when you feel hatred... After all, the hatred isn't helping and is making you suffer. Put you energies into trying to make the world a better place, if you feel you're accomplishing something towards your goal, then perhaps the hatred will fall away. Perhaps you could try to educate people towards being more caring? It seems your avatar is trying to do that already... So you can feel some satisfaction from that alone... However, don't feel that the world rests upon you, it doesn't... You'll be changing the world for the better if you can make yourself feel better about things. Concentrate on goodness and try not to give in to hatred... I know it's difficult, but for your own sake, you must try.

People are animals, we're just corrupted by society... It's no good hating people therefore...
 

Lea

Banned
I think everyone wishes they could understand the world.
For me our intelligence is more a curse than a blessing. It's because of our intelligence that we have destroyed and are destroying forests all over the world to turn them into cities and aggriculture, that we have conquered many diseases and extended our lifes and now we are overpopulated and became a threat to all life on this planet, because of our intelligence most people consider us better and more important than the other animal species and so on. In my opinion it would've been better if we never left our caves.
Anyway thanks for replying and I love your avatar, he looks so cute.

I think you´re right with everything you say. But maybe intelligence itself wouldn´t be bad, if only people weren´t idiots at the same time. And I am glad you´re liking my avatar :).
 

Canis lupus

Well-known member
Hello Canis Lupus,

I understand where you're coming from, and I agree with a lot of what you've said... I think the main points you should try to keep in mind are:

A. It's not "people" who are to blame but "society". Indeed, it's the people who hold the most power in society that are the problem.
B. Even when it IS people who are directly to blame, such as in the cases of cruelty... Not ALL people are like that - do you think that MOST people are cruel to animals? Really it's a small number.
C. Of the people who are destructive to the natural world, many are *unintentionally* like it and would change if they were educated in the correct manner.
D. There are many people who care deeply about the world, about animals, nature and humanity.

Try to think about the people who DO care when you feel hatred... After all, the hatred isn't helping and is making you suffer. Put you energies into trying to make the world a better place, if you feel you're accomplishing something towards your goal, then perhaps the hatred will fall away. Perhaps you could try to educate people towards being more caring? It seems your avatar is trying to do that already... So you can feel some satisfaction from that alone... However, don't feel that the world rests upon you, it doesn't... You'll be changing the world for the better if you can make yourself feel better about things. Concentrate on goodness and try not to give in to hatred... I know it's difficult, but for your own sake, you must try.

People are animals, we're just corrupted by society... It's no good hating people therefore...

Thanks for the answer. I love your final statement, "People are animals, we're just corrupted by society." I might be quoting you on that sometimes if you don't mind?

I know what you're saying is true although I don't agree that most people care about other things than humanity but there are people who do care and do a lot for it, some even a lot more than me. And I know I should concentrate more on the good things and I'm trying, really am but it's really difficult. This forum helps though, people here are great. Guess I knew that that is the only sollution. Was more of a rant on my part, looking for some support than really hoping for some new trick I hadn't heard of yet. Thanks for taking the time to read it and replying.


The support of all of you means a lot to me, gives me a bit more strength to keep on trying. And at the same time I don't get the chance of becomming angry while talking to you :)
 

Canis lupus

Well-known member
I think you´re right with everything you say. But maybe intelligence itself wouldn´t be bad, if only people weren´t idiots at the same time. And I am glad you´re liking my avatar :).

True. I often say that people are the smartest and the dumbest animals at the same time.
 

Starry

Well-known member
Thanks for the answer. I love your final statement, "People are animals, we're just corrupted by society." I might be quoting you on that sometimes if you don't mind?

That's perfectly fine! ;)

I know what you're saying is true although I don't agree that most people care about other things than humanity but there are people who do care and do a lot for it, some even a lot more than me.

It may depend upon who you know... I have no friends, but straight away I can name 8 people (a few old school acquaintances on FaceBook and family) who I know care deeply about the world, nature, animals *and* humanity (in some cases humanity is further down their lists lol...) I realise that's not *most* people, but it is a large percentage of the people I actually know... so there is hope... Either way, I just hope you feel better about it all. :)
 

psych

Well-known member
As some of you might have noticed in my previous posts I'm full of hate. I hate my family because they are antropocentric, I hate old people because they always have to get their way without any respect for someone else and because they slow everything down, I hate people who think that the other animals species and nature are inferior to humans and human society, I hate this safety- and health dictatorship because there are already way too much of us and we've become a real plague on this planet, I hate the Walloons, I hate people who make much more traffic violations as me being on my case because I drive too fast, I hate people being on my case because I smoke and so on.

I don't have so much trouble with the fact that I hate so many people and human society because people ask for it in all their arrogance and selfishness. Ofcourse there are always exceptions to the rule but in general people just suck. My problem is I have absolutly no control over it anymore. Every time I'm alone with my thoughts I start thinking about everything that pisses me off in the world and get extremely angry and I'm really tired of it. Every day I waste hours on this. Even when I'm studying I can't concentrate on it because I start thinking about all those things and within seconds I'm furious.

I've been trying for many months now to tell myself every time to stop it and think about something else but I just can't. I always concentrate on the bad things. It seems I'm no longer capable of seeing good things. Even if I read some positive news like animals being rescued or the few times human society is being sacrificed in service of nature I immediatly think about all the times it's the other way around and that little bit of good news becomes nothing compared to all the bad in the world.

So my question is are there people who recognize this and/or do you have any tips on how to take control of my emotions again and keep hating people, that's never going to chance with my values and opinions, without constantly wasting my time and mental health on them? How can I learn to think more about the few possitive things in life and less about all the negative ones or just say **** them all and live my own life?

Thanks for reading my rant and any tips are much appreciated.

They do suck. So do you. So do I. We're all part of the ever sucky human race. :rolleyes:

I got angry while running errands today after work...
What I have left of that right now, is a pulled muscle in my neck. I noticed this a few years ago, every time I get really pissed off, I suffer actual physical symptoms now.

& Over the years I've realized all my anger ever really did was cost me. It cost me money and possessions in the forms of traffic violations, & broken sh*t. It's cost me relationships. I guarantee I've lost opportunities because of it. & I've lost time with my family.

No matter how much I try, I still get outright angry at times.
What I don't do any longer, is react to it. Your reaction is what counts.
The best thing you can do for yourself is to make a mental note to yourself when you feel it coming on, that you need to wait before reacting...

Take five, & figure out what course of action will bring about the best results for you. Even if that means that the best thing to do is to ignore it, & find a coping mechanism to focus on until whatever the irritation is passes.

& Yes, we all need outlets for those unavoidable aggravations in everyday life. :)
 

Ignace

Well-known member
I completely find myself in your post, aside from hating the Walloons then. ::p:
Anyway, according to your picture you don't hate other races. :D So could be worse. ::p:
 

Gustopher

Member
i know its not positive to be hateful, but i find myself to be racist in many situations
i dont know why i just feel like i need to blame someone its normal
sometimes i feel like i could go on a killing spree if i wasnt thrown in a cell forever
 

Ignace

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... Who are the Walloons?

The French speaking people in Belgium. ::p: They have the image of not working at all. It's a fact they are with less civilians and they get more money, but it's also a fact most industry is in Flanders, so it's understandable there's a high number of people not working.
 

Canis lupus

Well-known member
No matter how much I try, I still get outright angry at times.
What I don't do any longer, is react to it. Your reaction is what counts.
The best thing you can do for yourself is to make a mental note to yourself when you feel it coming on, that you need to wait before reacting...

Take five, & figure out what course of action will bring about the best results for you. Even if that means that the best thing to do is to ignore it, & find a coping mechanism to focus on until whatever the irritation is passes.

& Yes, we all need outlets for those unavoidable aggravations in everyday life. :)

I don't feel it coming on. One moment I'm fine and feel pretty good and then suddenly I'm furious about something. But I'll keep trying.

Thanks for replying.
 

Canis lupus

Well-known member
... Who are the Walloons?

Like Ignace said the french speaking people in my country. The problem is that they have been treating the Flemish as inferior since the day Belgium came into excistence and at the same time always play the victim like we are the intolerable ones. They think they're the center of the universe and everybody should live in service of them and if you don't they call you a racist. They're just impossible to live with unless you accept you are inferior to them as Flemish which you definitely are here in Belgium.
 

psych

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Like Ignace said the french speaking people in my country. The problem is that they have been treating the Flemish as inferior since the day Belgium came into excistence and at the same time always play the victim like we are the intolerable ones. They think they're the center of the universe and everybody should live in service of them and if you don't they call you a racist. They're just impossible to live with unless you accept you are inferior to them as Flemish which you definitely are here in Belgium.

Sound like a bunch of a$$holes! :rolleyes:

Well, good luck with your anger issues. I hope things somehow get better for you. :)
 
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