Do the following justify a suicide?

cadaver_

cadaver_

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-Unbearable anxiety
-Low self-worth
-Zero confidence
-Attempts to make friends don't work out
-UNBEARABLE lonliness
-Obsessive negative thoughts
-Mental exhausion everyday
-No interests/hobbies
-No pleasure in sex (EVER) due to anxiety
-Too nervous to stand up to co-workers
-Extreme envy of people in relationships
-Inferiority complex
-Constanly embarassed and blushing
-Extreme self-consciousness
-HATE being gay

I've felt this way for years and have seen psychologists and it still gets WORSE. I've already decided which building i'm going to jump from. Can't see me being deterred but feedback would be appreciated.
 
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Banvard

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You don't really want to do it, do you? You don't have to. I have similar thoughts, but I try not to let them surface. I have the thoughts but not the intentions. You have to know how to navigate between the two.
 
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Banvard

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You’re here because you want to be talked out of it. Which is a good thing, you’re still clinging to life. Saying NO to intrusive thoughts. You expect us to say the things I'm telling you now. You’ll hurt a lot of people doing this, especially the ones reading your post.
 
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Noca

Noca

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Suicide has nothing to do with what you have had done or had happened to you. It occurs when your pain exceeds and outweighs your coping mechanisms. Talking about it helps one cope with pain.

You don't actually want to kill yourself, you just want the pain to stop.
 
PunkRotten

PunkRotten

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Did you know alot of those feelings are tied in together with another? When you fix one you fix the other. I feel some of those feelings, but I know there is a reason, it has nothing to do with me or my character. Try finding some meetings or something. You gotta reach out and conect with others.
 
theblank

theblank

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Cadaver,

I'm sorry to hear that you feel this way. I can identify with a number of things on your list and I know it's no fun, but your life CAN get better. It's not too late. You can still find something to live for and get things turned around.

But you should know this: once your feet leave the building that's it. There's no coming back. In the movie "The Bridge" there's a guy who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge and the second his feet left the bridge he knew he had made the wrong decision and wanted to live. What if something like that happens to you? What if the second you jump you regret it and want to live, but it's too late and there's nothing you can do about it?

And to answer your question, no, your list does not justify a suicide. It says that you have some problems you still need help dealing with, but it doesn't suggest in the slightest that you have earned the death sentence. Psychologists aren't magicians and they can only do so much. YOU have to really want to solve your problems and get better. YOU have to choose to FIGHT the things in life that hinder you and not give up and throw everything away. YOU have to make the decision to live. You CAN find solutions to your problems other than ending your life. You CAN have VICTORY. Just give yourself a chance.

And watch the movie "Milk." That might inspire you to embrace who you are.
 
cadaver_

cadaver_

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theblank said:
Cadaver,

I'm sorry to hear that you feel this way. I can identify with a number of things on your list and I know it's no fun, but your life CAN get better. It's not too late. You can still find something to live for and get things turned around.

But you should know this: once your feet leave the building that's it. There's no coming back. In the movie "The Bridge" there's a guy who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge and the second his feet left the bridge he knew he had made the wrong decision and wanted to live. What if something like that happens to you? What if the second you jump you regret it and want to live, but it's too late and there's nothing you can do about it?

And to answer your question, no, your list does not justify a suicide. It says that you have some problems you still need help dealing with, but it doesn't suggest in the slightest that you have earned the death sentence. Psychologists aren't magicians and they can only do so much. YOU have to really want to solve your problems and get better. YOU have to choose to FIGHT the things in life that hinder you and not give up and throw everything away. YOU have to make the decision to live. You CAN find solutions to your problems other than ending your life. You CAN have VICTORY. Just give yourself a chance.

And watch the movie "Milk." That might inspire you to embrace who you are.
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Already saw the movie and I still loathe being gay. Thanks for what you said though :)
 
NormanBates

NormanBates

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Feeling that down, I think it's always best to put on the most depressing music you can think of. And watch a really sad movie. Or maybe just watch CNN or the evening news. Anything at all that will depress you but in a different direction. Find out who died today (that's what obituaries are for) or find out where a bombing took place. That way you can feel sad, but not at yourself. Helps me get thru tough times. And I make it like a pain-numbing shell that I live in until I've forgotten myself.
 
NothingElseMatters

NothingElseMatters

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cadaver_ said:
-Unbearable anxiety
-Low self-worth
-Zero confidence
-Attempts to make friends don't work out
-UNBEARABLE lonliness
-Obsessive negative thoughts
-Mental exhausion everyday
-No interests/hobbies
-No pleasure in sex (EVER) due to anxiety
-Too nervous to stand up to co-workers
-Extreme envy of people in relationships
-Inferiority complex
-Constanly embarassed and blushing
-Extreme self-consciousness
-HATE being gay

I've felt this way for years and have seen psychologists and it still gets WORSE. I've already decided which building i'm going to jump from. Can't see me being deterred but feedback would be appreciated.
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nothing justifies suicide man.nothing.when you time comes to go you will go.but meanwhile stay and fight it.i know how u feel...i get caught in this way of thinking many times.but just see life as an experiment and when u fail u try again based on what you learned from your failure.

grab a pen and write down something u like and make it a hobby...maybe it sounds like nothing but it's a start,or take a book a start reading... important thing is that u start doing something,anything,and maybe u will see more solutions and more things that u like about in this life.

and when you find loneliness unbearable get into this forum and talk to ppl.i like to think that we r all giving the same battle here each one with our own different way
 
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Jimsie

Well-known member
-Unbearable anxiety
-Low self-worth
-Zero confidence
-Attempts to make friends don't work out
-UNBEARABLE lonliness
-Obsessive negative thoughts
-Mental exhausion everyday
-No interests/hobbies
-No pleasure in sex (EVER) due to anxiety
-Too nervous to stand up to co-workers
-Extreme envy of people in relationships
-Inferiority complex
-Constanly embarassed and blushing
-Extreme self-consciousness
-HATE being gay
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I have every single one of those problems as well as some others. I tend to have long periods of wanting to kill myself but other periods where i dont. On the few occasions when ive been able to do stuff despite these problems, ive found that the stuff i wanted to do wasn't that great anyway. Everything can seem much better when you can't have it but in reality its probably not that great. I think their just needs to be a way of feeling content within your own life.
 
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satstrn

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no way that justifies suicide man, there are things on that list you CAN control...for instance, you are absolutely able to find some interests or hobbies. there are a million things you can do: exercise, music, cooking, sports, reading, ANYTHING...everybody is capable of finding things that they enjoy doing, and if you spend enough time doing them then the other things get easier....find stuff to do alone, it sounds like you are spending too much time thinking about yourself, which is a trap we all have to deal with. yes your situation sounds pretty awful but without question you have some control over some of these elements. take you mind off of your situation and think about some ways to productively spend time, like i said interests and hobbies...i know theres somethin out there for you...go read the post by nothingelsematters again, hes got it right
 
Cynic

Cynic

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theblank said:
But you should know this: once your feet leave the building that's it. There's no coming back. In the movie "The Bridge" there's a guy who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge and the second his feet left the bridge he knew he had made the wrong decision and wanted to live. What if something like that happens to you? What if the second you jump you regret it and want to live, but it's too late and there's nothing you can do about it?
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Tough shit, lol. :D
 
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mimi1988

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NormanBates said:
Feeling that down, I think it's always best to put on the most depressing music you can think of. And watch a really sad movie. Or maybe just watch CNN or the evening news. Anything at all that will depress you but in a different direction. Find out who died today (that's what obituaries are for) or find out where a bombing took place. That way you can feel sad, but not at yourself. Helps me get thru tough times. And I make it like a pain-numbing shell that I live in until I've forgotten myself.
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Hmmm... Never thought of that one. When I'm feeling down I began to wallow in self-pity. Other people's pain is the last thing on my mind. But if I so happen see it, it usually does make me feel a lot better about my own situation. Anywayz, I'll try doing that next time! :)
 
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BlackKids

BlackKids

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Hang in there dude. I've felt like that and i no its horrible. I never thought I'd snap outta it bit I did. Nothing has really changed apart from my attitude. A positive attitude goes along way.
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Danfalc

Danfalc

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cadaver_ said:
HATE being gay
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You shouldnt hate being gay,it doesnt make you any less of a man or anything like that.Obviously this wont cure your problems but I think if you can embrace your sexuality you will feel alot better about yourself.
 
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mmmm

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If it's not incredibly rude to ask. I apologise in advance if it is but cadaver, what kind of sex have you been having? Because You'll never be fully comfortable having straight sex but if you're uncomfortable being gay, you should probably leave sex out of it for a while until you've sorted your head out a little and then see if you enjoy it more. Of course this will take a little time, so you won't be able to jump off any buildings or anything naughty like that.
 
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