Why do losers get girls at all?

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because the timidness is so attracting, mysterious, cool guys are stereotypical, u know all about them, the girls, the partying.. timid guys usual have a lot to them.. and we want to get to know that...my opinion..
 

Pookah

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shes was 87 , old people know it all but young people just look at them and ignore them ... they have lived a full life :) and know more than we do ......

That's because you spend more of your life being older, and less attractive than young and attractive and she knows that in the end its all about compatibility. Is it more important to chase after the hot imbecile or someone who you find sufficiently attractive physically and mentally so you will get along and have something to talk about the rest of your lives?
 

mrb

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That's because you spend more of your life being older, and less attractive than young and attractive and she knows that in the end its all about compatibility. Is it more important to chase after the hot imbecile or someone who you find sufficiently attractive physically and mentally so you will get along and have something to talk about the rest of your lives?

yep took me years to find that out lol ...... i found that out the hard way :rolleyes:
 

iamthenra

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old people know it all but young people just look at them and ignore them ... they have lived a full life :) and know more than we do ......

Whoa... Stop the horse mate! When I am "old" like in my 80's, (if I live that long) I will more than likely still hold the "V" card and have no experiences socializing with most... Just saying you can't assume that all old people know anything more than we do. Yeah they might have lived a long life, but if it's anything like my life right now.... I would say that I would be a poor one to give advice on a date, or a relationship or sex... Because I have not had any experiences AT ALL, and probably never will. So with me being 41 years old now, a 16 year old might be the one to ask for relationship advice depending on their maturity and experience... Food for thought mate!;)
 

no1

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because the timidness is so attracting, mysterious, cool guys are stereotypical, u know all about them, the girls, the partying.. timid guys usual have a lot to them.. and we want to get to know that...my opinion..

lol. IMO most girls don't like the timid. or at least, they never even get a chance to get to know them because they are so timid themselves! Ie, the women also expect the man to do everything, be aggressive and deviant, etc etc etc.

like I said above, girls are attracte to deviant people because in our history it was deviance and violence, aggressiveness that got us success and a mate. Even though that's changed now there are still people that believe it's inherent in us to be that way. It's intrasexual selection, not intersexual. Ie, it doesn't matter how much of a big shot you are, or your accomplishes, what matters is if it gets you laid or not.
 
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lol. IMO most girls don't like the timid. or at least, they never even get a chance to get to know them because they are so timid themselves! Ie, the women also expect the man to do everything, be aggressive and deviant, etc etc etc.

like I said above, girls are attracte to deviant people because in our history it was deviance and violence, aggressiveness that got us success and a mate. Even though that's changed now there are still people that believe it's inherent in us to be that way.

that is a good point, but not everybody is subjected to the collective consciousness.. and if we r affected to what has happened been in the history.. we r also affected by the present..in the present we see cool, outgoing guys cheating on there gfs, they are usually stupid, etc. it leads nowhere. and girls who haven't realized that so far aren't worth the while or this discussion.. A girl can be attracted, and most likely will( due to the reasons u said) to a guy that is outgoing, but in time she will think differently.. so u r correct.. but not completely.. as for the timid girls.. well ur theory stands firm..
 

da_illest101

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I think any kind of pity-party/negativity complex is a turn off to both sexes, a lack of self esteem is not appealing to others, lets face it, a potential suiter is looking to be you lover not your therapist

it depends of who, i tend to like girls with no self esteem then those who does
 

no1

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yea. No one really knows the power of love especially it's place in healing and health and keeping things stable and secure, and nourishment, and maintenance, strength, etc. Sure, if you can help yourself, go ahead do so. If you can help yourself then do it, don't be selfish and blame everyone else and expect everyone to do your work.

There are other times where it can really be alleviated and helped along with love and healing. Sexual healing too. What is make up sex? Isn't that also a form of pity sex? I guess people don't even know what pity really means anymore because now it just means to ridicule, when before it was to actually have sentiment toward someone, and care. Now we just have BDSM because people dont know about sexual and healing love.

Oh but everyone wants to be all selfish and macho and deny the power and healing love can bring to all humanity.

Let me tell you, nothing that is true became true without love/oneness (unity/interconnectedness and share distributability) . It's pure physics, anything that can be true has to follow the laws of physics.

I mean... just think for a second. A person can be really messed up psychologically if he never has sex. If your only problem and your depression stems from this one fact, and nobody chooses to recognize it you are screwed. The endocrine system includes the sexual functions, which governs psychological functions and behavior. As well as the nervous system, etc. etc. etc. All systems depend on each other for health and stability. If one thing goes wrong, the rest goes wrong. If you missed your time... well u know what will happen to you. Not just psychologically but also physically.
 
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Pookah

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Whoa... Stop the horse mate! When I am "old" like in my 80's, (if I live that long) I will more than likely still hold the "V" card and have no experiences socializing with most... Just saying you can't assume that all old people know anything more than we do. Yeah they might have lived a long life, but if it's anything like my life right now.... I would say that I would be a poor one to give advice on a date, or a relationship or sex... Because I have not had any experiences AT ALL, and probably never will. So with me being 41 years old now, a 16 year old might be the one to ask for relationship advice depending on their maturity and experience... Food for thought mate!;)

When you get old old, like 80's you start just speaking your mind because you've lived life and have nothing to lose really and most people will give you leeway to say whatever is on your mind. At least that's what I hope I'm like when I'm elderly. :p

You still have time. I try to tell myself that when I think about why I'm not married/involved with anyone. I hope that somehow I can think about what I'm personally interested in and maybe if I get around the people who are also like me, I'll have a better shot. I haven't figured it out either but I have some hope. The internet for instance I think is a huge boon to our kind.

My only experiences with sexuality with another person have been unpleasant. But I still have the longing for intimacy. So I understand the desire for that even in the face of the bad taste in my mouth about it.

To No1:

Relationships seem to work best when a role is fulfilled on each side. That tends to be the "submissive" and the "dominant." Maybe you need a dominant woman.
 
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no1

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When you get old old, like 80's you start just speaking your mind because you've lived life and have nothing to lose really and most people will give you leeway to say whatever is on your mind. At least that's what I hope I'm like when I'm elderly. :p

You still have time. I try to tell myself that when I think about why I'm not married/involved with anyone. I hope that somehow I can think about what I'm personally interested in and maybe if I get around the people who are also like me, I'll have a better shot. I haven't figured it out either but I have some hope. The internet for instance I think is a huge boon to our kind.

My only experiences with sexuality with another person have been unpleasant. But I still have the longing for intimacy. So I understand the desire for that even in the face of the bad taste in my mouth about it.

To No1:

Relationships seem to work best when a role is fulfilled on each side. That tends to be the "submissive" and the "dominant." Maybe you need a dominant woman.

Eh... those roles are also changeable. It's not possible for one to be always dominant or always submissive. And anyways it has nothing to do with dominance and submissiveness. maybe you're brainwashed like the rest of society to think that there need be roles such as this.

Like I said before some species of animals have gender roles as they are expressed in humans in a reversed manner, and it doesn't make them any more or less masculine/feminine. It's just the role they play that pertains to their species.

For humans, they have learned to be agressive and violent towards each other. To be controlling and to be limiting. If women could change that mindset that the society and man has to do everything for them, perhaps they too can start participating in having say in their own lives. lol.

If they see that only the most careless and "bravest", most loudest and aggressive men are the only ones approaching them because they don't want to commit to a relationship unless they are forced upon it well.. there you go.

Besides.... the feminist movement in these days taught women to be more like men, but they are still learning to be themselves. Throughout history women have gone through much trouble. So have the men. By other men too. And guess what it's all for? most wars? For women. Sexuality. "genetic territory". procreation. reproduction.

Women think that the feminist movement taught women to be more free. Sure, they are now free-er to be more like men, but that doesn't mean they are freer to be more like women, since now the female roles have all but disappeared. The men can't do anything women can but women can do everything a man can (with TOOLS and other men :p). The whole gender role thing is a creation of the society we live in.
 
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Pookah

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Eh... those roles are also changeable. It's not possible for one to be always dominant or always submissive. And anyways it has nothing to do with dominance and submissiveness. maybe you're brainwashed like the rest of society to think that there need be roles such as this.

Its called Psychology. Science supports it.

It doesn't have to be wholly dominant or wholly submissive but I think you will find one partner is one thing more than the other and vice versa. In the case of social phobics I would venture to say that if the partners are BOTH social phobic, that is going to be a very hard relationship.
 

no1

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Its called Psychology. Science supports it.

It doesn't have to be wholly dominant or wholly submissive but I think you will find one partner is one thing more than the other and vice versa. In the case of social phobics I would venture to say that if the partners are BOTH social phobic, that is going to be a very hard relationship.

Psychology of Whom?
 
Oh, it's not that easy. Physical attractiveness is certainly not the decisive factor.


I suppose that this is the right direction. Although, it might not be about lowering standards, more about unconsciously choosing the doormat over the alpha-male, because of a need to dominate. A few women are sufficiently dominant to not be into being dominated. That rules the alpha-male out as the mate.


You seldom think rationally in such a situation.

Physical Attraction is "certainly not the decisive factor"? You can't speak for ALL women...
 
If you really want to know why "losers" get girls, here it is, they go out and get them, that's it, I'm not real sure what you mean by "loser" but I seem to match almost every definition others posted, but some how I've been able to get tail since I was fifteen, and maintain healthy monogamous relationships, its not how the guy looks or acts, well maybe a little, but how he makes his girl of interest feel about herself and the situation your trying to put her in (emotional or sexual). You people can't keep letting your SP get in the way of your life, you have to work with it, not use it as an excuse as to why your a 42 year old virgin, go get it! And why you're at it, make a relationship out of it, girls like guys who try to make the girl like them, not guys who get scared when she doesn't answer the phone so they sit around and wait for her to call back, like I said, you gotta go get it!
 

Pookah

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Every human is different. Every biological lifeform is different. Sure there are generalizations but they are never the absolute rule.

Look who is talking. Psychological gender roles even within the biological gender differ. No generalizations there, just categories to place behavior/inclination.
 
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no1

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Look who is talking. Psychological gender roles even within the biological gender differ. No generalizations there, just categories to place behavior/inclination.

I guess it is also a bit ostracizing. I dont know why you'd think I need to be with a "dominant" woman when the fact is I just don't push myself onto women and I dont talk to women just because I want to see if I could get laid with them. Or at least I dont want to make it seem that way, since women LOVE generalizing men into categories such as "creep pervert" for the guys they don't like and the guys they'd fantasize about raping them and saying deviant agressive things to them and dirty inappropriate jokes which are ok to them because "they are hot".


and yea it is a little antagonizing to say that I would need to have a "dominant woman" when the majority of females think that it's "unmanly and undesirable" to be "submissive", so yea.
 

no1

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I mean seriously, what is "dominant" in your definition anyway?

Someone who takes the lead role in everything? Hell no. I think it should just be more equal in terms of finding a mate, especially when in these days the man has to risk being called a damn pervert and being thrown in jail simply for looking at a girl yet the girl is looking sexy. BEcause sex is considered deviant, and taboo and "bad". That makes it so that only the most agressive and careless men who don't care that they come off as deviant can approach them. But in the relationship we take the role we need to.

And also for the guys like me, who just so happened to have never had female friends and girlfriends up until the age of 23.. such that it is natural and common to feel nervous showing sentiment and expressing feelings, of any kind around women because they have never been shown that it is "ok" to be this way with them. Or to even touch them for any reason, or to look at them for any reason. The monkey mind is naturally unconfident. Hell all my sperms have low self esteem such that all the cells in my body feel like committing suicide because there was an error in "reproduction cycles".


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For the fact that because I've never had experience with women, I won't even get one because it requires experience to get one, but since I've never had experience I'll never get one because it requires experience because I can't get experience because it requires experience because that requires experience to get experience.

etc.etc.etc.

If you're young it's ok to learn and get experience. But when you're older you had to already have had experience, so you can't "just be getting experience" when you're older. That option to you is closed off. Either a person will have to love you for who you are and understand your faults or be lonely forever your entire life simply because when you were young you couldn't get the experience that was necessary to be "initiated" into adult life. Such that when you're an adult you can't even get that experience because it takes experience to get experience so you'll never even get experience!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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