what is your proof that good exist or not ?

coyote

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What is, is.

What isn't, isn't.

The proof is in the pudding.

Butterscotch pudding is my favorite.

I like to eat it with vanilla wafers.
 
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Lea

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my proof that god is exist is that every thing around us is perfect

humans, animals, trees and the structure of the universe its all perfect

for example the human body its perfect there is nothing less or more

and look at earth its perfect only the earth there is no others planet why ?

its like some one put us here on earth why ?


what about you what is your proof ?

True. Surely there is some superior intelligence, that can't be denied!
 

worrywort

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my proof that god is exist is that every thing around us is perfect

humans, animals, trees and the structure of the universe its all perfect

for example the human body its perfect there is nothing less or more

and look at earth its perfect only the earth there is no others planet why ?

its like some one put us here on earth why ?


what about you what is your proof ?

What do you mean when you say 'perfect'? cause that's not the word that springs to mind when I look at my body!!! ;)
 

AGR

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It gets tiring,perfect acording to who,who decides what is perfect or not,I dont know if something we can call God exists,but its tiring its like some people are lazy,dont look for answers themselves,even if it were perfect,therefore God exists?does everything perfect needs a creator?
 

Rembrandt Broam

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this is the most important question ever

who created you ?

Yes, I'd like to know that because as I mentioned in another thread a few days ago, I have a list of questions I'd like to put to him, her or them.

why ? and where will you go after you die ?

Well yes, that is an interesting question, as is where were you before you were born. One day we'll all either have an answer, or we won't. I suppose if we don't, then none of it will have mattered anyway.

and what he want from you ?

this is a very deep question because it can explain a lot of things in our lifes and around us

Whether it explains things depends on the conclusions you reach when you ask yourself those questions.
 

Mr.Moon

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I disagree in that sense. I see nothing as perfect. Everything has flaws and that's what makes it able to exist. If we were perfect we'd be living in a much better world. I do believe in some sort of higher power though beyond our control or knowledge.
 

coyote

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this is the most important question ever

who created you ? why ? and where will you go after you die ? and what he want from you ?

this is a very deep question because it can explain a lot of things in our lifes and around us

These questions are essentially useless.

"who created you?" already assumes that there is a creator

"why?" already assumes that there was a purpose

"where will you go after you die?" already assumes that you will go someplace

"what [does] he want from you?" already assumes the existence of a sentient being possessing the ability to want something

For BELIEVERS - these questions are already answered before they are asked.

For NON-BELIEVERS - these questions are meaningless
 

Rembrandt Broam

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good point lets change this questions to:

is there some kind of intelligent existence created us ?

Well you'd have to start by finding some evidence to support the hypothesis of this intelligent existence.

if this is random why are we the only planet have a life no intact full of life ?

Who says we are? We're the only planet in this solar system to have life, but that's more than likely due to our distance from the sun creating the conditions for life to evolve. Our solar system is only a tiny part of the universe.

where did every thing come from ?

Oh I know that one. Poughkeepsie.

i think if this is random and we existed found by chance there must be life on every planets where is this life???????

On other Earth-like planets in other solar systems.
 
That's actually a misconception.. Nothing is perfect. The existence of (a) God is a highly sensitive subject, I am, and going stay unbiased on that part.

I am a strong believer in evolution, but I don't rule out that a God could have set it into motion. I am merely a guy with assumptions, neither I, or anyone else on this planet has the answers. Much of what we ''know'' are merely assumptions and theories we choose to see as fact anyway. So please, don't take offense in the following.


The way I see it, everything in this universe is in constant conflict with itself, and everything around it. Making it change due to that conflict. Everything- including lifeforms like us humans, adjust to their environment over time. That's why I think there are so much different races of people, because Earth's climate is different everywhere. According from where we are, what we do, and how we do it, we experience things differently. Making me come to the conclusion that ''perfection'' as a factual phenomena is non-existing. It's make-believe. A product of our own personal views and desires. Of course, there's such a thing as personal perfection (or what we accept as it, anyway), but there is no such thing as ultimate general perfection.

As far as this planet goes; like I said before, things constantly change. It could very well be that what we witness here today, this well lubricated ecosystem we call Earth (nature), is the product of billions of years of conflict between (what eventually became) the building blocks of Earth. Changed just as long till it found a balance. We Humans seem to be a little bit arrogant towards everything that surrounds us. We tend to project our own views on things and species that differ entirely from us. If there is such a thing as (a) God, it could be that he/she/it doesn't even know the thing we know as emotions. He/she/it might have an entirely different way of functioning, perhaps even have emotions that are completely alien to us. Assuming just because humans need to design things in order to make it function properly, doesn't necessarily mean everything else must have one too. That would be nothing more then (slightly arrogant) speculation.

It could even be that we spawned from something else he/she/it created. That we came to be entirely by accident. Considering the scale and the complexity of the universe, one would think that something as small as the little blue planet we live on wouldn't even be a blimp on the radar of a high being like (a) God. For all we know- God or no God, we could be a product of another product. But back to topic, ''Good'' and ''Bad'' only applies for us as humans in terms of how it effects our emotions. And seeing as our emotions are (most likely) exclusive to our race, ''Good'' and ''Bad'' doesn't apply for the rest of the universe, because essentially there's no such thing. Like perfection, it is a non-existing product that only exists in our own minds.

But these are merely my thoughts, they might be right, they might be completely wrong. Just assumptions from the inferior mind of a still- and forever more developing primate. ;3


To sum this all up, and answer your question: Non, I have no prove because I don't believe good, nor bad exists. :3
 
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AGR

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if this is random why are we the only planet have a life no intact full of life ?
If we are the only planet with life or not,We dont know that yet,we cant say for sure either way.

i think if this is random and we existed found by chance there must be life on every planets where is this life???????
It is exacly what its suposed to be if chance played any part AT THE START of life,it means sometimes it will happen,not everytime.
 

Lea

Banned
I think trying to find out if there is God is somehow pointless.. Because nobody can find that out, nobody can have dead hard "proofs". God is something we can either believe in or not, and lead discussions about it if we please. Better is to just live... and keep the question about God open, because it IS to be left open...
 

davidburke

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