What career should I do?
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mikebird
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Don't make the mistake I made.
It wasn't my mistake, and I wasn't at fault.
I followed my heart. I loved maths, physics, electronics and computers... to take Cybernetics & Control Engineering.
I ignored the application of the learning & studying and knowledge to fit an employable market.
Be sure there's a place for your skills in the world. Don't just do it if you like it. Make sure there's a job for you - look at the numbers. Even when the lecturers tell you what's in need, eg. human bodies need maintenance, so you're good as a doctor, or people need help in legal matters, so there's always a place for you as a barrister... they're all lying! It's to secure places on their course, to plump up their salary.
Don't just do what you like. Think about what's needed on the planet, and who's paying?
I regret not choosing the armed forces!
It wasn't my mistake, and I wasn't at fault.
I followed my heart. I loved maths, physics, electronics and computers... to take Cybernetics & Control Engineering.
I ignored the application of the learning & studying and knowledge to fit an employable market.
Be sure there's a place for your skills in the world. Don't just do it if you like it. Make sure there's a job for you - look at the numbers. Even when the lecturers tell you what's in need, eg. human bodies need maintenance, so you're good as a doctor, or people need help in legal matters, so there's always a place for you as a barrister... they're all lying! It's to secure places on their course, to plump up their salary.
Don't just do what you like. Think about what's needed on the planet, and who's paying?
I regret not choosing the armed forces!
coyote
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in the modern military, only a small percentage of personnel ever fire a weapon in combat
there are hundreds of job specialties that don't involve carrying a gun
MrJones
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Not shooting at somebody doesn't mean that you're not participating in a murder.
I don't know where you live and what your particular skills and interests are, you may wanna think about your past accomplishments and things you've enjoyed doing...
There will be a chance to socialize and make friends no matter where/what you study... and also later at work.. !!
Also, what you don't study 'officially' now, you can study it later, while you work you can sign up to courses or 'adult ed' classes or such... while you have the funds to sponsor it!!
You can also read books, take an online course, there's lots of info online...
Seriously take a look at number of unemployed and their profiles, and who's hiring what where... (depending on where you wish to live...) It may change in a few years, some trends will probably stay the same..
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History - work in an institute/museum (if you're lucky!) or school, teaching history...
Politics (huh?) - does your government still intend to employ or fire people? (Greece wants to fire 30.000 public workers...?) Other possible venues of work: maybe institutions like UN or EU (I don't know where you're from? if EU doesn't fall apart sooner) or organisations that deal with paperwork (can you handle THAT?)
You can get employed in the public sector with different profiles too I think, check what it's like where you live.. (gov sites sometimes have job ads too..) Would you be up for doing politics and such?
Sciences - research institute (lab/...) or industry or in education again? (you could check who hires most and where would you feel comfortable working - primary or secondary schools or colleges etc? I've heard many schools are underfunded too, where I live it's not so easy anymore for teachers to get jobs, we have less kids than years ago, and the gov is economizing - not sure how it's over there; teaching can be stressful, especially for someone with sa, some do seem to quite like it though..)
male too! haha)
I've heard social work in USA is quite difficult, where I live it's lots of paperwork too, not so easy to actually help people... Occupational therapy - don't know if you can work 1 on1 or in small groups or bigger groups? Could ask around maybe?
Dietics hm.. some people distinguish dietician vs nutricionist, not quite sure what the differences are, and what's available where you live.. I do believe in the power of healthy nutrition, it can also be lifelong learning (sometimes nutritional guidelines change due to new research/studies etc) You could also check if they mostly work 1 on 1, would this be easier for you?
Any job could get 'boring' or stressful - so you need some time off and some 'hobbies' or 'other interests' too!!
If you are someone who likes things to be 'creative/inventive' or do 'problem-solving' or do things differently, check if those jobs can be done in different ways too? (ask people who work there, or observe and give ideas?)
You will probably go into different people's homes, so you must be okay with some people contact too.. (and be friendly enough so they ask you back!)
I don't know what a surveyor is, what do they survey? Houses?
Real estate market has been 'down' so hm?
Before signing up for anything, read 'What Color is Your Parachute' and talk to people who have studied course/s you're interested in and what they are doing now, ideally find some studying right now (the universities probably have online forums too!), recently graduated and/or some people working 'in the field' for a while... to give you their perspective...
There's a site with how much people earn (in USA I think), take a look there too...
Where I live, there are more unemployed 'highly educated' people than eg plumbers I think... Check what the situation is over there-?
Any job will be partly 'exposure therapy' where you interact with people somewhat, to varying degrees... And if the job is 'lonely'/isolated, you may need to plan for other activities in your free time, where you can meet people (eg an engineer can go hiking and work in the garden to 'combat' office work, and meet people on hiking trips or such..)
A dietician can maybe meet a significant other at work, and a teacher may need to schedule 'alone time' reading or walking with a dog and no one else, to counter 'too many people' at work... So, some things to consider...
You seem to be a person with many interests, maybe it would be also good to read Refuse to Choose by Barbara Sher? She speaks about finding a 'good enough' job or 'umbrella job' for various interests etc. While you can of course also keep your other interests!! (And schedule them for time off or holidays or such!!)
There will be a chance to socialize and make friends no matter where/what you study... and also later at work.. !!
Also, what you don't study 'officially' now, you can study it later, while you work you can sign up to courses or 'adult ed' classes or such... while you have the funds to sponsor it!!
You can also read books, take an online course, there's lots of info online...
Seriously take a look at number of unemployed and their profiles, and who's hiring what where... (depending on where you wish to live...) It may change in a few years, some trends will probably stay the same..
Some English majors do technical writing (they write manuals) or copywriting, some of this work is 'outsourced' to independent contractors now.. Some may teach classes (would you be up for THAT?
) History - work in an institute/museum (if you're lucky!) or school, teaching history...
Politics (huh?) - does your government still intend to employ or fire people? (Greece wants to fire 30.000 public workers...?) Other possible venues of work: maybe institutions like UN or EU (I don't know where you're from? if EU doesn't fall apart sooner) or organisations that deal with paperwork (can you handle THAT?
) You can get employed in the public sector with different profiles too I think, check what it's like where you live.. (gov sites sometimes have job ads too..) Would you be up for doing politics and such?
Sciences - research institute (lab/...) or industry or in education again? (you could check who hires most and where would you feel comfortable working - primary or secondary schools or colleges etc? I've heard many schools are underfunded too, where I live it's not so easy anymore for teachers to get jobs, we have less kids than years ago, and the gov is economizing - not sure how it's over there; teaching can be stressful, especially for someone with sa, some do seem to quite like it though..)
Do you know any people who work in this? Could you 'job shadow'? Or just visit a spa? (some hot physiotherapists working there, sorry!
male too! haha) I've heard social work in USA is quite difficult, where I live it's lots of paperwork too, not so easy to actually help people... Occupational therapy - don't know if you can work 1 on1 or in small groups or bigger groups? Could ask around maybe?
Dietics hm.. some people distinguish dietician vs nutricionist, not quite sure what the differences are, and what's available where you live.. I do believe in the power of healthy nutrition, it can also be lifelong learning (sometimes nutritional guidelines change due to new research/studies etc) You could also check if they mostly work 1 on 1, would this be easier for you?
Any job could get 'boring' or stressful - so you need some time off and some 'hobbies' or 'other interests' too!!
If you are someone who likes things to be 'creative/inventive' or do 'problem-solving' or do things differently, check if those jobs can be done in different ways too? (ask people who work there, or observe and give ideas?)
I've heard some engineers mostly work with 'paperwork'/computers too... (8 hours of computer a day; a study has shown that 5+ hours computer a day can cause depression, concentration problems and other health problems..) There are also a lot of Chinese engineers etc. You don't really need to enjoy something, you need to be fairly good at it and tolerate working it!!
Do some 'job shadowing' if you can... (eg a plumber could take you to his workshop/to a client as 'apprentice'/unpaid help maybe? to observe if this is something you could like/tolerate doing?) Or at least talk to people doing this... Or observe when someone you know gets stuff installed... How are you with loud noises? A plumber sometimes needs to cut metal or walls, it can be pretty loud...
You will probably go into different people's homes, so you must be okay with some people contact too.. (and be friendly enough so they ask you back!
) I don't know what a surveyor is, what do they survey? Houses?
Real estate market has been 'down' so hm?
Before signing up for anything, read 'What Color is Your Parachute' and talk to people who have studied course/s you're interested in and what they are doing now, ideally find some studying right now (the universities probably have online forums too!), recently graduated and/or some people working 'in the field' for a while... to give you their perspective...
There's a site with how much people earn (in USA I think), take a look there too...
Where I live, there are more unemployed 'highly educated' people than eg plumbers I think... Check what the situation is over there-?
Any job will be partly 'exposure therapy' where you interact with people somewhat, to varying degrees... And if the job is 'lonely'/isolated, you may need to plan for other activities in your free time, where you can meet people (eg an engineer can go hiking and work in the garden to 'combat' office work, and meet people on hiking trips or such..)
A dietician can maybe meet a significant other at work, and a teacher may need to schedule 'alone time' reading or walking with a dog and no one else, to counter 'too many people' at work... So, some things to consider...
You seem to be a person with many interests, maybe it would be also good to read Refuse to Choose by Barbara Sher? She speaks about finding a 'good enough' job or 'umbrella job' for various interests etc. While you can of course also keep your other interests!! (And schedule them for time off or holidays or such!!)
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Beatrice
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Eheh. Probably too true.........
Then again, self-employment isn't exactly a fix-all. I think maybe I'd find that more of a headache than just dealing with a boss and salary and officemates or whatever.....
But who knows. I haven't ruled out starting a business just because of all that.
LazyHermitCrab
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If you don't know just go with standard? You can get a job. The people who can't get jobs aren't trying hard enough. I mean just sending a resume and hoping someone calls back isn't enough. It doesn't matter what you study really but in interviews you have to explain why you believe what you studied was important, and make a point. If you can minor in infosystems thats good because simple computer techniques are in a lot of industries. Or maybe youre interested in culinary or something. If you don't care about money so much and like animals you can be a vet tech or if you do and want to work in the dark a lot be a x ray technologist.... hope this helps
coyote
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i never killed anyone who didn't need killin'
MrJones
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What I will never understand about all the military thing is how do they "decide" who deserves death.
Then, for killing someone, other people will think that the ones who made "something good" deserve death for the same reason.
I just don't get the idea of killing others just because you think you're right. When you kill a killer you become a killer yourself. Infinite loop and all begins again.
I may be just a bit ignorant here, or simplistic, but I really don't understand all the war, and the violence and the money and the power.... but I think I'll stick with the "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind".
coyote
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we generally just shoot in the direction of the gunfire coming at us
whatever happens after that is up to God
MrJones
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Of course that if you invade a country by the force they will shoot at you. You can help the refugees, try to make both sides to talk so they can end a war peacefully... I know that probably that won't stop it (it almost never does), but I don't think that killing everyone would be the best solution either.
If I'm at home and arguing hard with my brother you can try to calm us down, try to make my little sister to stop crying, but if you come with a baseball bat and start beating us I'll try to punch you in the face.
(Well, not me because I don't punch people, but you know what I meant
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coyote
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true, the US probably never should have invaded Nazi Germany or any of Europe under Nazi occupation
we probably shouldn't have invaded Japan or any of the other nations in Asia or the Pacific that they occupied during the 1930's and 40's
we probably never should have sent troops on any of the peacekeeping operations in the last 100 years - even though the governments of the nations we "invaded" asked us to come there
time changes - so do politics
just because you may not agree with the things a particular government has done in the last 10 years doesn't mean that everyone who has ever served in the military of any nation is murderer
MrJones
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True, I was thinking about more modern times, but because the OP, isolation, talked about joining the military service now and that's why I was talking more about nowadays.
But still, I was not saying that they can't make good things in the end, but I was just wondering if the end justifies the means.
PS: I read it all again and it may seem an attack to you or something, I wasn't intending to offend you or anyone else, so sorry if you thought that. We could talk about this for very long, but I don't think it's going to help isolation with his problem
coyote
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PS: I read it all again and it may seem an attack to you or something, I wasn't intending to offend you or anyone else, so sorry if you thought that. We could talk about this for very long, but I don't think it's going to help isolation with his problem
no worries, i realize you were merely being political (although i don't like being called a murderer)
my intent was to give the OP a viable career option