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this_portrait

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This is kinda long, but I feel the need to get this out there. It's something that I've observed about myself for a while now, and these are just some thoughts I have on that observation.

Sometimes I think that I shouldn’t be complaining, that I should just shut up and count my blessings, because there are so many people, sufferers of social anxiety or not, who would kill to have my life. When people give me the same old line, “You should be happy because you’re young, attractive, smart, creative, and have a lot going for you,” I can’t help but think, “Yeah, you’re right. I practically have it made, and here I am not really appreciating any of it.”

There are a few people with social anxiety who are like me, who are somehow able to trudge through life despite their illness. We can go to school; we can work; we can perform basic errands like going to the store for groceries, talking on the phone, and saying basic things to the cashier who rings us up wherever we go. We may have little to no friends and not a good support system, and we may freak out over various little things and have trouble giving speeches to classes or colleagues, but somehow, we’ve managed to get past a lot of our anxieties and reach a point where we’ve succeeded at various things in life.

But there are so many people with social anxiety who are not like that, who haven’t achieved even half of the successes as the other group. These people are the ones who typically drop out of school; who can’t hold down a job; who have a hard time even leaving the house a lot of the time. I really feel for this large amount of people. I know that if I never would have pushed through a lot of situations that made me anxious, if I would’ve let my SA completely take over, then I would be in the same position as them. I wouldn’t be sitting in this apartment right now; I would be back at my house in my hometown, because I would’ve dropped out long ago. I was able to push through things despite my SA peaking.

And yet here I am feeling miserable, like my life isn’t complete. I sit around feeling sorry for myself, wishing that I had a lot more than what I currently do have, and here are these people who would kill to have my life. Not just people who suffer from SA, either. I grew up in a working class family, yet my mother sent me to one of the better schools in town so that I wouldn’t have to deal with all the bullsh*t that went on in the public schools there (let’s just say they aren’t the greatest). She struggled to pay my tuition on time, and would use almost all of her income tax money to pay for it. For years we lived in an apartment in this neighborhood that eventually went to sh*t once they changed landlords and started taking in Section 8 tenants.

Even though I felt uncomfortable living like that throughout childhood, it wasn’t that bad. It only seemed that way because I was surrounded by mostly kids who were even more privileged than me, and even then many of them had their problems. Just because their parents made more money than mine, doesn’t mean anything. Still, I don’t know too many other people from the same socioeconomic status as me who got the chance to have a better life than their parents. I’m very fortunate to have a mother who cared about my future and who tried everything she could to make sure I would turn out all right and make something of myself. Even though my father was a pain to live with because of his drinking and bar-hopping, I am lucky that I at least had a father figure in my life who wasn’t abusive to me as a child. He was a rather lousy father, but he wasn’t the worst, and at least he stuck around after the accidental pregnancy.

So many people without SA would love to have my life. So many people with SA would love to have my life. I’ve been reading books and blogs about people who suffer from other mental illnesses, and I feel grateful that I don’t have what they have. Here are these people who have been suffering from such bad mood disorders for years, and they’re on medication for it. You know what drove me to finally turn to Prozac as a last resort? A goddamn boy. A BOY, of all things. Here are all these people who are in agony from their own mental hell, and the one thing that drove me to hell and f**ked me up good was a relationship gone wrong. When you compare my demise to that of many others, mine looks rather pathetic.

And still there are so many people with SA, both older and younger than me, who have yet to experience a relationship. Many of them might not ever get the chance. They want to experience the very same things I got to experience for 11 months so badly, and here I am feeling like **** after having the opportunity to experience a relationship for the first time in my life.

You see, I’m greedy. It doesn’t matter that I have brains, beauty, education, creativity, and that I’ve finally gotten to experience a relationship. I want more than that. I want friends I can hang out with. I want those people I can interact with on Facebook all the time. I want the boyfriend who will never leave me and I’ll never leave him. I want so much more, and here are so many people who would kill to have even half of what I already have. Hell, some people never even get the opportunity to go to therapy for their problems, even though they could desperately use it.

I’m well aware of all of this. I know that I’m more privileged and spoiled than lots of people, and there are others who are more privileged and spoiled than me in various ways. I know I’m greedy and that I want more than what I already have. I feel pathetic sometimes for feeling like my life is hell when it could be so much worse. Does that make me feel any better, though? No. Comparing my life to those who are more worse off than me doesn’t make me feel better about myself at all. It makes me feel glad that I’m not in a worse position, and I feel sympathetic to those who are in worse positions, but it doesn’t make me feel high on life. It doesn’t make me feel like my problems are less important.

I guess it’s good that I’m aware of these things, even though it doesn’t make me feel any better about my life.
 

Solitudes_Grace

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I understand what you are saying. I feel guilty about my anxiety and all of the other stupid, superficial issues I have too. It really is disgusting that I worry or get so worked up over so many stupid things.
 

Feathers

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Hey hun,

A lot of women (especially teens and twenty-somethings, and some older too, akhem!) can obsess about boy/s too much!! It's possibly at least partly a culture/media thing too... I mean, are there 'love education' lessons in class?

You mention alcoholic father - have you been to any Al-Anon groups/support, there are some online sites and support forums for this too... And some books etc. My Grandpa and some other relatives had problems with alcohol, I've seen other families affected too, it can be a factor. Even just reading the forums and posting there has helped me.

Believe me, you'd get bored and tired of someone who'd hang on your every word and be with you all the time!! It's normal to wish a different and more fulfilled life though, you can always work toward it!

It's great that you are having all these insights now, you can still change your life and make it better!
(It's not that by suffering or calling yourself names you'll magically help those more miserable than yourself too!!)

Not sure if you've read any books on CBT, Dr Burns: The Feeling Good Handbook has helped me A LOT! There's a concept of not 'should-ing' yourself in CBT too... ('Should' is considered a 'dirty' word :)) You're here, you think/feel that way... What can you do about it?
 

MikeyC

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While there are a lot more disadvantaged people out there in regards to SA, don't undermine your own issues. They are just as important as the next person's.

You want a boyfriend and a circle of friends you can hang out with. Let's say you get those tomorrow...are you going to be fulfilled? Or are you going to then say, "but now I want a bigger house, or a better car, or more money, and THEN I'll be happy!" Constantly being unsatisfied with your current situation will lead you to crave the next best thing, all the time, forever. That will make you even more unhappy as you'll never feel completely content.

Sometimes it's the smaller things in life that can have the biggest impact (the boy, in your case) even though we strive to be more hardened than that. Taking it one step at a time instead of wanting an immediate cure for your heartbreak will ultimately lead you to get over it properly.

You obviously think highly of yourself, saying you are creative, attractive, and smart. Go with that and you'll eventually reach your final goal. :)
 

this_portrait

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Thanks for the responses, everyone. :)

Feathers said:
You mention alcoholic father - have you been to any Al-Anon groups/support, there are some online sites and support forums for this too... And some books etc.

I've never been to any Alcoholics Anonymous groups or anything similar, because I never really felt that my father's alcoholism affected me that much. I also turned out to NOT be an addict, so that's another reason why I've never been to one. However, I think I kinda have the personality of an alcoholic, probably developed from growing up around my father.

Feathers said:
Not sure if you've read any books on CBT, Dr Burns: The Feeling Good Handbook has helped me A LOT! There's a concept of not 'should-ing' yourself in CBT too... ('Should' is considered a 'dirty' word ) You're here, you think/feel that way... What can you do about it?

I've read two of Dr. Burns's books (The Feeling Good Handbook and When Panic Attacks). I read them this past summer as ways to help me feel better after going through a break-up. I've also read other books on CBT, and I'm currently undergoing it in therapy.

MikeyC said:
Let's say you get those tomorrow...are you going to be fulfilled? Or are you going to then say, "but now I want a bigger house, or a better car, or more money, and THEN I'll be happy!"

I don't think I would be fulfilled right away, because friendships and relationships take time. If I were to magically have them tomorrow, I'd be more suspicious, probably. As for wanting anything more than that, I really don't. That's all I really want, and sometimes it just feels unattainable for me.
 

crescent

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That's human nature I guess, we are always wanting for more, feeling like it's not enough, like our life is incomplete. It takes a lot of wisdom to be completely satisfied in life whatever life brings us. Only then we can be free.... I guess the key for it is in the acceptance of everything that happens and not judging things as good or bad. But I haven't come to that though so I can't comment much further.
 

MikeyC

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I've also read other books on CBT, and I'm currently undergoing it in therapy.
My mate is undergoing CBT with his psychologist and he absolutely hates it. He believes it's not working. Although he's had many, many, many years of untreated Asperger's to deal with so that may be a different story altogether.

I don't think I would be fulfilled right away, because friendships and relationships take time. If I were to magically have them tomorrow, I'd be more suspicious, probably. As for wanting anything more than that, I really don't. That's all I really want, and sometimes it just feels unattainable for me.
Obviously you would be suspicious - I was speaking from more of a hypothetical viewpoint.

It's not unattainable, I assure you. Every time a girl left my life, I would think that there was nobody left. But I've come to realise there's always someone next in line. Always. :)
 

LifeInternal88

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Yea, I get what you are saying and relate to some of it.

THE fact that there is someone worse off than you doesn't change how you feel. But on the upside, it can help put things into perspective. We tend to overemphasize things, so this can help you see that the problem is not THAT bad. I also feel a bit guilty sometimes after hearing other people's experiences.

And the non-satiation problem means that no matter what happens in your life, you will never be satisfied. Ever. So that means you have to change, as others have pointed out. But I think most people have this problem. I mean even the very rich are always trying to make more money. Being content has nothing to do with your circumstance.
 

1BlackSheep

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Are we the same person? :) I can relate to what you're saying in so many ways! Especially this:

You see, I’m greedy. It doesn’t matter that I have brains, beauty, education, creativity, and that I’ve finally gotten to experience a relationship. I want more than that. I want friends I can hang out with. I want those people I can interact with on Facebook all the time. I want the boyfriend who will never leave me and I’ll never leave him. I want so much more, and here are so many people who would kill to have even half of what I already have. Hell, some people never even get the opportunity to go to therapy for their problems, even though they could desperately use it.

Having close friends and family is priceless, no matter how much other success you have in life. I wish I had them!
 

Feathers

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I've never been to any Alcoholics Anonymous groups or anything similar, because I never really felt that my father's alcoholism affected me that much. I also turned out to NOT be an addict, so that's another reason why I've never been to one. However, I think I kinda have the personality of an alcoholic, probably developed from growing up around my father.
My mum's never been to AlAnon or such, I've seen some behaviors/attitudes that were described on the AlAnon forums though, from other women/girls too... You can at least check out some literature and forums, what have you got to lose?
I think these things can affect generations, without people even being aware...

I've read two of Dr. Burns's books (The Feeling Good Handbook and When Panic Attacks). I read them this past summer as ways to help me feel better after going through a break-up. I've also read other books on CBT, and I'm currently undergoing it in therapy.
Yeah, I really loved TFGH!! :) The trick is to read it/do exercises often - otherwise thoughts can go back to 'faulty thinking' quickly!! I think he recommends 15 minute a day 'CBT break'/journalling or such (or did I find that somewhere else?)
Nutrition changes and walks have helped me too...

I don't think I would be fulfilled right away, because friendships and relationships take time. If I were to magically have them tomorrow, I'd be more suspicious, probably. As for wanting anything more than that, I really don't. That's all I really want, and sometimes it just feels unattainable for me.
Well, these things felt 'impossible' to me in the past too, at times, they're quite possible though... The book 'Feel the Fear and Do It' has been helpful in that regard, and pursuing interesting things, where one can find interesting people...
You can work on getting yourself 'out there' to interesting courses/events, where you MIGHT meet interesting people, and develop from acquaintances to more!! (There are lots of books on communication and making friends, Dale Carnegie, NLP etc.)
 

WeirdyMcGee

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You know~ I grew up watching infomercials about 'poor children in Africa', being taught to be thankful for everything that I do have and yet I have a hard time actually feeling happy with what I have.
It makes me frustrated at times because I have so much more than other people do- I have access to so many more opportunities and I don't take them.

That's much the same as you, isn't it?

There are people in the world who have nothing, and don't want anything.
People who have everything and still want more.
People who are hated by 'everyone' and still not lonely or guilty
and people who are loved by all- yet, feel so empty and lonesome.
 
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