If you discovered a guaranteed cure to SA/Anxiety/Depression today...
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IJustWantMyLifeBack
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I would choose SA ----
Off The Wall
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I think i'd become a therapist and create up a webpage/forum so i could chat to all the people who didn't wanna come in and get face to face therapy. Free of charge of course i'd never make someone pay for help. I went to a therapist for free so i feel lucky that i didn't have to pay not that it helped but still lol.
I wouldn't just post the cure everywhere cause i think i'd wanna see what i know working on other people and getting their feedback and seeing how happy they are cause they are cured!
I wouldn't just post the cure everywhere cause i think i'd wanna see what i know working on other people and getting their feedback and seeing how happy they are cause they are cured!
Nicholas
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Option 1 and 3, and number 3 is necessary if you really want to help people, because just writing books doesn't work perfectly well. And you know why? Because there are already lots of books on this, but they don't seem to work well for some people. And the solution already exists, believe it or not.
I am getting close to the truth and I swear that if I ever write anything, it'll be online for free.
Believe it or not though, the solution is already out there, but it's difficult to grasp, because it's partly in one book, partly in another, partly in another theory... and so on.
Linden really understood one of the most important points though, but the problem is that the solution is presented in a crappy way: lots of blabbering and too little time spent on the real issue. The same is true of all the other material: Lucinda Basset's program, The Panic Away Program, How to Stop Worrying and Start living, etc.
The solution lies in between, and the reason why many people don't seem to understand it is because they expect the solution to be simple and effortless, and all the material really sounds like useless blabbering... So the solution isn't clear.
All these people who have found the solution (and it is THE solution, it really seems the key points are the same for everyone) have basically turned their sadness into anger that forced them to react.
So you can see that the first key point seems to be this: You will never overcome these problems unless you really want it, and you need to want it so much that you must be willing to suffer and try hard long enough and patiently.
But lots of people are not willing to fight for real, and they will stay in the grave they dug themselves, where no book, program, or therapist could ever help them.
I am getting close to the truth and I swear that if I ever write anything, it'll be online for free.
Believe it or not though, the solution is already out there, but it's difficult to grasp, because it's partly in one book, partly in another, partly in another theory... and so on.
Linden really understood one of the most important points though, but the problem is that the solution is presented in a crappy way: lots of blabbering and too little time spent on the real issue. The same is true of all the other material: Lucinda Basset's program, The Panic Away Program, How to Stop Worrying and Start living, etc.
The solution lies in between, and the reason why many people don't seem to understand it is because they expect the solution to be simple and effortless, and all the material really sounds like useless blabbering... So the solution isn't clear.
All these people who have found the solution (and it is THE solution, it really seems the key points are the same for everyone) have basically turned their sadness into anger that forced them to react.
So you can see that the first key point seems to be this: You will never overcome these problems unless you really want it, and you need to want it so much that you must be willing to suffer and try hard long enough and patiently.
But lots of people are not willing to fight for real, and they will stay in the grave they dug themselves, where no book, program, or therapist could ever help them.
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cosmosis
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Hi Nicolas,
Interesting post and would love to hear what you thought were the good points of those programs or what you would do different. I've gone through many of them myself. Lindon actually came on this site like a year or so ago and we had an argument about his program. Out of all of them, I think his is the most dangerous. He obviously understands that fear creates fear, but his idea that you essentially block all thought about panic is very dangerous I think. Underlying all panic attacks is the idea that emotions are blocked or thrawted to begin with. The panic is the result of the blocked buildup trying to escape. His idea would be good temporarily, but eventually something would crack and crack hard.
I actually prefer the idea of the panic away method (the so called one move) where you tell yourself to bring it on..you ask for you and it no longer has the power over you. That follows much more in line with what's really behind panic.
Lucinda Basset's program is more encompassing, but its very scattered and overall not that effective I thought. It's kinda sad to me that lucindas program is considered the best out there, it shows we have a long way to go.
But I agree with you that the solution is there and its already obvious to the majority of people in some form. But the problem never seems to be whether you know the solution but whether you want the solution.
I don't think its necessarily got to do with the hard work needed. I believe that its got to do with the control that anxiety gives. When things go bad, we need control and anxiety is that control. We cannot let it go, even if we know its destroying us at the same time.
Interesting post and would love to hear what you thought were the good points of those programs or what you would do different. I've gone through many of them myself. Lindon actually came on this site like a year or so ago and we had an argument about his program. Out of all of them, I think his is the most dangerous. He obviously understands that fear creates fear, but his idea that you essentially block all thought about panic is very dangerous I think. Underlying all panic attacks is the idea that emotions are blocked or thrawted to begin with. The panic is the result of the blocked buildup trying to escape. His idea would be good temporarily, but eventually something would crack and crack hard.
I actually prefer the idea of the panic away method (the so called one move) where you tell yourself to bring it on..you ask for you and it no longer has the power over you. That follows much more in line with what's really behind panic.
Lucinda Basset's program is more encompassing, but its very scattered and overall not that effective I thought. It's kinda sad to me that lucindas program is considered the best out there, it shows we have a long way to go.
But I agree with you that the solution is there and its already obvious to the majority of people in some form. But the problem never seems to be whether you know the solution but whether you want the solution.
I don't think its necessarily got to do with the hard work needed. I believe that its got to do with the control that anxiety gives. When things go bad, we need control and anxiety is that control. We cannot let it go, even if we know its destroying us at the same time.
danstelter
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If I had a guaranteed cure, I would create a website and encourage people to join it so that they could get better on their own, and that is what I am doing now.
For what it's worth, I don't think there will be a guaranteed cure in our lifetimes. It is possible for science to discover a way to manipulate each and every neurotransmitter in our minds so that they all flow properly and don't create unncessary, but that is beyond the capability of our technology at this point.
Of the current methods, any method can work. The Linden Method, which I noted before, can work for some people, but for others it won't work. It is definitely not a cure.
Next, even my method is not a cure. It is more a way of minimizing its presence in your life. Nothing can fully cure an anxiety condition, including my method. But, it makes life a heck of a lot better, and for all intensive purposes, that is a cure.
For what it's worth, I don't think there will be a guaranteed cure in our lifetimes. It is possible for science to discover a way to manipulate each and every neurotransmitter in our minds so that they all flow properly and don't create unncessary, but that is beyond the capability of our technology at this point.
Of the current methods, any method can work. The Linden Method, which I noted before, can work for some people, but for others it won't work. It is definitely not a cure.
Next, even my method is not a cure. It is more a way of minimizing its presence in your life. Nothing can fully cure an anxiety condition, including my method. But, it makes life a heck of a lot better, and for all intensive purposes, that is a cure.
lyricalliaisons
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I would definitely pick numbers one & three. Number one, so that people like myself, who were too scared to go to an actual therapist & practice the method, treatment (or whatever), in person, would still have access to it & still be helped. & three because I'd love to be able to help others in my position one on one, since I'd finally in a position to do so.
Nicholas
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The reason why #2 wouldn't work is... How are people going to believe you? There are a lot of people who claim they can do a lot of things, but... is it true? If I claimed I was able to run as fast as Usain Bolt, would anyone believe me? That would be stupid and useless to claim, unless I went on TV and publicly showed my talent.
Why I'm not cured? I would be, if I hadn't hyperhidrosis. I would feel optimistic, I would be able to improve very fast. I actually don't have severe SA, I can go to parties, I can be in crowded places, I like to talk with people, although all this often bothers me or stresses me out. But my damn hyperhidrosis (generalized, mainly face, back, and now also butt) makes me a recluse in the summer, and makes me miserable, depressed. I wasted a lot of my life because of this crap, and I have no self esteem.
I can be very outgoing if it's cold. I hide and disappear if it's not.
FountainandFairfax
in a VAN down by the RIVER
I'd post the cure for free and get about the business of starting my real life.