I saw a 5 year old fall out of a window and I....

[madmike]

'There is a huge range of people in this forum from mentally healthy young people just having difficulty talking to the opposite sex to those who literally can't leave the house and are riddled with OCD, panic attacks and the works. My 2 cents is that we should try our best not to judge others. There’s a difference between constructive criticism and attacking the person.

Having said that, we should realize that most of us here are dealing with our own type of hell and to expect harsh reactions many times. And to be honest, forums like these are not usually the best when you are dealing with a serious issue, so don’t take this forum to heart J_Brown…its just not worth the pain. '

Oioi, beat me to it Absolutely, take it easy J_Brown, we understand. Keep trying!

 

[Lea]

Having said that, we should realize that most of us here are dealing with our own type of hell and to expect harsh reactions many times. And to be honest, forums like these are not usually the best when you are dealing with a serious issue, so don’t take this forum to heart J_Brown…its just not worth the pain.

That´s right, and it´s not only this forum - others can be even far worse. There is so much negativity in the people that it can be overwhelming. I know whatever I say the majority of reactions will be negative so it´s worth going there only if I don´t mind being hurt and pissed off. Maybe you can dig out there for some advice, but rather not support.

 

[Molotov]

And you´re all right Molotov, seeing that brutal video of killing animals and being cynical about it.

I didn’t watch the video, that was the whole point of my post. What does that have to do with this?

by playing a "hero," it would be making yourself the center of attention, which I think is something SAers painstakingly avoid.

I understand but this is nothing when someone’s hurt that badly. Also, he said the child was alone. This is the part where people talk about severe social anxiety that I wouldn’t understand because there’s always a bigger fish. I believe there’s more to this.

 

[j_brown2]

This is getting ridiculous, you keep changing your posts. Yesterday you said something along the lines of "I don't give a **** if the baby died, I hate society and people. all of you can get ****ed" and today it's gone. The story seems to keep changing. Did this even happen or are you just trolling? You also said that it's summer at the moment, where abouts are you?

Oh ok. Changing stories? what the hell did i change? did i ever post something about how i saw the kid falling, how brutally it landed, how i didnt feel anything when it fall???? NOO. title was misleading, iam sorry, i was really mad at myself and didnt see that mistake i made that night. but i think you can see from my first post, that i got in contact with the kid when he was lieing there crieing, SO dont tell me iam changing stories please,

You dont even how some comments made me feel, i was crieing here, wanting to throw in the towel on my life and make everyone hate me, i was shakin, my voice was gone for the whole day, my mother keeped asking whats wrong with me, i felt awful

i got a lot of personality disorders, iam easily influenced by other peoples opinion, so i cant help it,


Did this even happen? absurd, no i just imagined it.

Now you wanna know where i live? i think you know New Zealand. Whats next you gonna say it isnt that hot here anymore that people would have windows open at night?


I took all posts way to much to heart. PEOPLE ARE SO JUDGMENTAL ON HERE THAT ITS MAKIN ME SICK.

 

[Celephaïs]

Kitty Genovese - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not sure I believe you but the above is a little related I suppose.

 

[Danfalc]

I took all posts way to much to heart. PEOPLE ARE SO JUDGMENTAL ON HERE THAT ITS MAKIN ME SICK.

Maybe you should take a break from this site then for a bit bud...go see a doctor or somthing,i mean i know this is a support site but it seems to be causing you more problems than anything.

And this is to everyone not just you j so dont take this personaly Try and keep things civil or im gonna lock this thread,its starting to get out of hand.

 

[j_brown2]

I think there’s more than SA involved here. A situation like this is so much bigger than SA, you can’t blame that alone for such a reaction. Social anxiety is a fear of disapproval, and to put your fear of disapproval over the life of someone else is selfish and doesn’t make sense. I refuse to believe this could be the case; we all have a choice.

I bet there’s more to the fact that he has American Psycho as his avatar other than just liking the movie.

With that said, I doubt this even happened. Although, it’s still worth debating as it has everyone split down the middle.

I was so unreal, dont judge me, at first i thought this cant be true, this is not happening, iam makin out a scene, than i was thinking the only thing that could happen is the child fall down the window.


you couldnt tell by the child if it was seriously hurt or just crieing, at least i couldnt, and my panic and fears of makin out a scene didnt help either.

like i said the parents didnt even take it to see a doctor, or get checked


I said if i saw the child falling down with my own eyes i would run straight back home ( its only 10 sec btw) so ya wont judge me on that again coz i dont know how to provide help.


American Psycho? lol, you know why i got that pic on, and why i liked that movie, not coz of the killing, but the acting, breathtakin to me, which you wont understand or have an understanding for again. i got some personality disorders, which make me act in a way like the american psycho. with that i mean how he talked, how he was emotionally involved, faking the emotions. i wont go on coz you wont understand anyway. I AM NO PSYCHO, IAM TO EMOTIONAL

 

[j_brown2]

I understand but this is nothing when someone’s hurt that badly.

HOW smart all you are, it took me a while to realize whats going on, you all talk like, when i saw the kid i knew exactly what happened what to do, And beside that i was like a zombie, in panic, doubts, fears.

Of course if i wouldnt have SA, i would probably go straight knocking on the door tell the parents their kid is out there lieing and crieing, but its easy now to say where i can think rational.

 

[lurknomore]

I asked where you from because you said it's Summer, but it's not Summer in New Zealand - it's Autumn.

Minor point, but actually, it is Summer in NZ right now- won't officially be Autumn for a few more days.

 

[j_brown2]

I said the story keeps changing because your posts keep changing, you add and remove stuff and change the tone and content frequently so it's hard to know what is what happened and what is what you want us to think happened, like the scenario is under a constant revision.

I didnt add or remove anything from the stroy that happend, just my posts and replies to you people,

Oh sorry, well iam adding stuff, first post was like to beat on myself, thats why it sounds so negative and not whole, just one side of it

Last night you repeatedly told us to "get ****ed" and you also said you didn't "give a **** is the child died" and today all of that is gone.

I was so anxious coz of your comments, that iam a sociopath, that i wrote this, Iam easily influenced by other peoples opinion - personality disorders, this doesnt mean though that i really meant what i said. It was out of anger, how could you think i really meant this, if i got help afterwards for the kid and feel bad that i couldnt help in the moment.

"did i ever post something about how i saw the kid falling, how brutally it landed, how i didnt feel anything when it fall???? NOO."

"I left a child there at night crieing, possibly with serious injuries (fell out of a 2 store building onto the street)

I didn't care at all..."

That's how I got that impression..

Well first one is obvious isnt it, i knew it fall down coz the parents said it later, and i seriously believed when i got help this happened coz i couldnt explain myself it any other way why a kid would be there at 9pm lieing and crieing

I didnt care at all, i meant coz i was in panic, ok wrong wording maybe, of course i cared, otherwise i wouldnt think about what is happening all the time, and get help

I asked where you from because you said it's Summer, but it's not Summer in New Zealand - it's Autumn

.

Lol, iam still shirtless in my home coz its hot, its usually nice and warm here till may

 

[j_brown2]

so your from NZ too?

 

[lurknomore]

Oh no, it's Autumn here - it begins on March 1st.

Wow, interesting. Our first day of Spring is usually March 21 or 22. I guess I thought the recognition of when seasons change would have been universal. But it is still early enough in Autumn for you for it to be hot outside.

 

[j_brown2]

Its all good and nice, but NO for many different reasons. I will do this myself, got my own therapy program. Energy healing.

iam sorry, i dont believe anyone has the real picture of what really happened. Iam an emotional trainwreck.

 

[Rise Against]

Its all good and nice, but NO for many different reasons. I will do this myself, got my own therapy program. Energy healing.

iam sorry, i dont believe anyone has the real picture of what really happened. Iam an emotional trainwreck.

I understand. You paniced and lost all common sense, dont be so hard on your self, it could happen to anyone.

 

[hippiechild]

I've been thinking about this thread since it was posted, J brown...

Maybe the situation presented is meant to be symbolic. Someone with severe social phobia meets a baby on the ground; People on Social Phobia World find a self-loathing, emotionally unstable guy in their midst. Next, the baby cries for the observer to come and help. Likewise, this miserable guy looks for help, acceptance and understanding on the forum. In J Brown's default scenario, the observer ends up abandoning the baby in the street.

...Maybe this thread is an experiment to see how it plays out in real life. Will we ignore the abandoned baby while it's at its lowest, or will we pick it up and return it to safety?

In any case, I'm sure that you've learned something from this thread, J Brown.

 

[j_brown2]

^^^ i like your thinking

sure i did, i dont know if anyone got that impression coz of my emotional issues, but i did take away from this thread that next time i got to be more proactive (if thats the right word)... Take action, and think of the bigger picture, it was hard in that situation i was totally shocked... i know i learned from it and next time i might handle it a lot better, and providing HELP is gona be more on my mind

I thought some people could be nicer with their criticism, not say it in such a demeaning way, iam very very sensitive. BUt i got to learn to handle things better, from critizism to helping people.

Iam sorry for being such a mess

 

[sabbath9]

maybe a little mindfulness would have helped?

 

[Lea]

I didn’t watch the video, that was the whole point of my post. What does that have to do with this?

If you watched the video or not that makes no difference because you knew what was there and still made this very insensitive comment. Anyway, everybody is entitled to his opinion and you were being honest but what´s astounding to me is, there are so many people who think the way you do and then they go and comment on how bad it is not helping a child. I find it disgusting and opinion of such people can´t have validity to me anymore.

 

[Lea]

I've been thinking about this thread since it was posted, J brown...

Maybe the situation presented is meant to be symbolic. Someone with severe social phobia meets a baby on the ground; People on Social Phobia World find a self-loathing, emotionally unstable guy in their midst. Next, the baby cries for the observer to come and help. Likewise, this miserable guy looks for help, acceptance and understanding on the forum. In J Brown's default scenario, the observer ends up abandoning the baby in the street.

...Maybe this thread is an experiment to see how it plays out in real life. Will we ignore the abandoned baby while it's at its lowest, or will we pick it up and return it to safety?

In any case, I'm sure that you've learned something from this thread, J Brown.

Good point, that´s interesting.

 

[w*n*c*a*m]

This is what I understand....

He saw a kid crying who was badly hurt.

So he panicked and didn't know what to do.

He ran away.

He finally realized what he has done...

so he told his mom about the child to seek for help.

-------------

So.... why should he get a harsh treatment about his decision?

People have only focused about the "running away" scene.
But it seems they have forgotten that he did try to help the child.

Isn't it good enough?
He could have just ran away and kept the situation to himself, but he has done something to help.

Maybe he didn't help the child instantly.... but why don't we put ourselves into his own shoes?
He has severe SA and he didn't expect this situation to happen. His reaction was just normal. When we are in a panic state, we sometimes forget to do reasonable things.

After all, I think he made a sensible decision. If you yourself knows that you're are not capable of helping someone at the moment because of your condition, would it be reasonable enough to seek help from someone who is more capable?

That's what he did... he asked his mom for help... eventhough it was difficult because his own mom might blame him too.

-----------
Furthermore, he already felt guilty, he knew that he should have done better. He felt bad enough. So why should people have to make it worse for him? This guy needs encouragement and understanding, not judgment. It's unfair to give him a nasty label. The very fact that he wrote this situation in this site is already a proof that he was bothered and not just an insensitive guy.

------------
So don't feel so bad about it j_brown. I know you did your best. And I believe that you will do better next time because of this experience. I wish you luck.