Do you believe there are some people that can't be helped?

Is it possible that maybe there's a handful of people in this world that just can't be helped by medication? What if you go through so many things in life that have had such a big impact, that there's just no reaching you?
I'm asking, because I used to take medication, but I can't anymore because I have a bad liver, and almost all meds work against it(from what I have been told)...I can't afford for much more to happen to it. Also, I don't want to just 'deal' with certain things anymore, I actually want them erased from my memory. I feel like I'll always be like this till they can be wiped completely out. It's not just being wigged out when I'm around people, my whole life has been nothing but one huge battlefield. There's so many memories I just want to get rid of...I have abseloutely nobody to talk to about any of it, and some things I'm too afraid to even talk about, because I'm unsure of what I might do. A friend of mine said they were going for ECTs...though I'm not sure how it works. Can people still get shock therapy/treatment? My dad had to have it several times after he got back from the war...they said that by the time he was well into his visits, he wouldn't even know where he was or who people were for quite a while, but it finally came back to him...I think it would be worth it still, if it can make you forget things. Anyone?
 

Remus

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Exercise, a good diet (and fish oil) and CBT can help if you go down the Non drug road
 

Blue Buddha

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You might be interested in 'thought transformation' techniques, offered in Buddhism. It is a method to transform our ways of thinking, trying to transform negative thought/memories into positive ones.
An excellent book on this is from Lama Zopa Rinpoche, Transforming Problems into Happiness...
 

Shift

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ECT is shock therapy. They changed the name to electroconvulsive therapy because it sounds nicer because "shock" has bad connotations. Or something.

Anyway, from what I know about ECT is that it is the most effective way to help with depression symptoms and it's used for people that drugs don't work on. It doesn't erase memories though. You probably won't remember things that happened right before the treatment (like going to the hospital), but other than that it's not going to get rid of much. And if it does, then usually the memories will come back later. But it should help you feel better. And it's much safer now then it used to be.

There's also some weird new thing they are trying with magnetic waves that they are trying to replace ECT with so they they don't have to shock people anymore... I forget what it is called though.
 

Lorraine Manca

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if you make a very strong effort to avoid thinking about the memories, they start to fade. to be honest though, i dont know if it works for memories that are truely awful. everytime you feel like your minds wondering that direction, pinch yourself hard or pull the hairs on your arm. eventually your mind starts avoiding the crappy thought naturally on its own.

maybe there are some people who cant be helped, but there is no way to know if you are one of them. that'd require knowing the future. i hope things get better for you
 
You can talk to us about your memories...I dont think theres anything you can say or talk to us about that we havent heard or experienced in some way.
Or you could write things down in a journal so you can get it out of your head.
I posted a story on here that I was way to embarrassed to really talk to anyone about..and I got a compassionate response. So maybe if you find someone to talk to about these things it may help.
And yes they still do shock treatments, I think its different then it used to be, more sophisticated, it helps some people, but its not like it will erase your memories forever.
 
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