Are you able to shut off thoughts in your mind?

recluse

Well-known member
Thinking about random things is a habit of mine....A bad habit i should say. When i am able to have a clear, thoughtless mind i am much happier and alert....But my clear mind is shortlived...It's as if i am not satisfied unless my mind is constantly working and thinking about random useless shit. But it's really tiring and i often am stuck in my own world unable to get a repeating thought out of my head.

When i am not thinking about anything i then have the thought ''I am not thinking about anything''...So i am stuck in an annoying viscious cycle.

Are you able to have a clear mind and fully focus on things you are doing?
 

GotMeWrong

Member
Ah, I believe the term for this is called "Mental Masturbation" or "Monkey Mind". I can have a clear mind and focus on things that I am suppose to be doing. I can also have an extremely relentless mind that takes me for crazy rides!!! I'm not really a fan for roller coasters, but I just realized the benefit of an actual roller coaster is that it ends at some point and I can get off. The mind....it doesn't want to let you off so easy.

Haing a clear mind will come with practice. Just watch the thoughts like birds flying across the sky. People may argue it's not that simple, that may be true, but on the other side, it is true that it IS that simple. Our thoughts are the gardens that produce everything. You think about crazy shit and you're going to have a garden full of weeds. Think of productive and positive thoughts will leave you with the front page of Better Homes and Gardens. We really make or break ourselve with thought, it's what our world boils down to.

A technique to get you there is figuring out why you are spending the energy on the thoughts that you wish you were not thinking. I've often asked myself what sense does it make for me to be having thoughts that leave me in a poor state of mind. If it's purely habitual, you have to establish a new habit, and by that it means changing your thoughts that are running through your mind. Once you catch one and notice it and what it is doing to you...you will be able to catch another and another and slowly begin to pull out the weeds in your garden. It's then maintenance my friend, an inside job. You must walk the mind and not let the mind walk you, so to speak.

It's totally possible to regain and establish thought control.
 

marciaX3

Well-known member
oh my god, i can't get my head to shut up!! i have had insomnia for over a yr cuz of my fucking head. i can guarantee that if i do something like see my relatives (i do this just a couple times a year at the most), i will OBSESS about every little thing i and they said/did for days/weeks after it happened, good and bad. it's part of my SA. like i saw my dad's side of the family on father's day this year and even now i still think about it and every stupid thing i did/said. i quit my job a yr ago and i STILL obsess about the shit i said/did and they said/did!! it's really ridiculous to say the least. my therapist says i "hyper focus" on shit, and needless to say, it's exhausting. so i'd say i'm in a similar boat as you and am unable to have this clear and focused mind you speak of.

and i'm really not thrilled with that term, "mental masturbation," or "monkey mind" for that matter...
 

madmike

Well-known member
I don't really seem to think about anything...

except my problems, my worries and the amount of work i have to get done for uni, which i can never focus on anyway.

Mental masturbation hmmm... it's not as pleasurable, tell you that much. How can transcend from the inferior monkey mind and become more human in your ways of thinking??
 
aaaaaaah I think it's pretty much impossible for me to stop thinking entirely...Like you said, when I'm not thinking anything, I think to myself "I'm not thinking of anything"

It takes me like an hour or more every night to fall asleep because my mind is just racing all over the place! And when I'm with other people I tend to stop listening to them and just zone out, kinda go into lala land it's soooooooo annoying!!!!
 

jayBDee

Active member
I am either thinking about things I did/said in the past or trying to figure out what the future will bring. It's an endless source of chatter. I never feel like I am living in the present moment. I think I appear absent minded to others because of this. I am sure it's anxiety related. When I got help through medications for my anxiety this chattered stopped.
 

Argamemnon

Well-known member
aussie135 said:
I cant stop thinking either and wondered if i have schizophrenia. I am gonna ask my psychologist on thurs.
Same here. I have asked him about schizophrenia, but he said that nothing indicates that I have schizophrenia. I don't hear voices and such, but I still think I might have it - or some other serious mental disease.
 

proudmummy

Well-known member
I'm thinking all the time too.

It makes me seem dumb as hell sometimes cos i'm so deep in thought I dont pay attention to whats happening around me.

Is there no drug to stop obsessive thinking?!

Everyday is hard
 

Liz17

Well-known member
Definately not, It seems as though Im alaways in deep thought. And I know it sounds strange but when people are speaking to me, my thoughts seem ten times louder. I have tried hypnothereapy recently and It just doesnt work because my mind will not relax at all.
 

TheLoneWolf

Well-known member
GotMeWrong said:
Ah, I believe the term for this is called "Mental Masturbation" or "Monkey Mind". I can have a clear mind and focus on things that I am suppose to be doing. I can also have an extremely relentless mind that takes me for crazy rides!!! I'm not really a fan for roller coasters, but I just realized the benefit of an actual roller coaster is that it ends at some point and I can get off. The mind....it doesn't want to let you off so easy.

Haing a clear mind will come with practice. Just watch the thoughts like birds flying across the sky. People may argue it's not that simple, that may be true, but on the other side, it is true that it IS that simple. Our thoughts are the gardens that produce everything. You think about crazy shit and you're going to have a garden full of weeds. Think of productive and positive thoughts will leave you with the front page of Better Homes and Gardens. We really make or break ourselve with thought, it's what our world boils down to.

A technique to get you there is figuring out why you are spending the energy on the thoughts that you wish you were not thinking. I've often asked myself what sense does it make for me to be having thoughts that leave me in a poor state of mind. If it's purely habitual, you have to establish a new habit, and by that it means changing your thoughts that are running through your mind. Once you catch one and notice it and what it is doing to you...you will be able to catch another and another and slowly begin to pull out the weeds in your garden. It's then maintenance my friend, an inside job. You must walk the mind and not let the mind walk you, so to speak.

It's totally possible to regain and establish thought control.

hmmm.....interesting
 

nephatitus

Well-known member
i do it on the bus. I usually focus on a reflection in the the window and basically just stare at it until my stop approaches. People who have seen me in this state say i look dazed. Though i wuldnt recommend doing this constantly because when you do need to think it is hard to get into a train of thought and not very stimulating or your brain. You dont feel any emotion is this state either, not even a sense of boredom. You jst feel a sense of presence, that your just there.
 

Ffej

Member
Ah, the mind-a great slave but a terrible master.

Clearheadedness is a lifelong challenge for all. The yogis spend a lifetime (or many if you believe the Hindus) perfecting mind control. One caveat-we are NOT our thoughts or our minds. Many argue that you find your soul once you silence your mind-one of the 1st steps to achieve in meditation(bot medication!).
 
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