ETS - Finally!

Ihateit

Well-known member
Okay, so I have found a surgeon who is willing to do the procedure on me. I am now in the process of deciding if I definately want to go through with it. I am 85% sure that I do but I still have 15% telling me no.

Is there anyone in the UK that has had it done and worked and only had minor side effects?
 

de

Well-known member
Ihateit said:
Okay, so I have found a surgeon who is willing to do the procedure on me. I am now in the process of deciding if I definately want to go through with it. I am 85% sure that I do but I still have 15% telling me no.

Is there anyone in the UK that has had it done and worked and only had minor side effects?
whats ets what does it do
 

de

Well-known member
i presume seeing as the things are along the spine that there is a risk of doing something wrong and becomeing paralysed or something but id do anything well almost anything to stop myself from blushing and my hands sweating
 

Some_guy

Well-known member
Ihateit said:
The Dr said there was only a slight chance that something will go wrong
Negative side-effects are present for almost every operated person, and they get worse as the years go by.

You might leave the hospital and feel alright in the first few months, only to get those nasty side effects a few years down the road.

LOTS of people regret doing it. I for one would NEVER do it.
 

Ihateit

Well-known member
At present i'm thinking the side effects i would put up with along as the blushing stopped. Which I know is quite selfish of me really.
 

nephatitus

Well-known member
i agree

dont do it

im not a doctor but there is always somehing that might go wrong in an operation and can permanently cause damage (besides most doctors are the biggest BSers anyway).

I would suggest playing it safe and to not have an operation
 

Robb5994

New member
I beg you,, don't!!1
Most Docs won't perform ETS for Blushing anymore.
I had ETS done in Sweden 8 years ago. My blushing didn't reduce on bit. Now i've got fatigue, excess sweating all over my body,HAIR loss,dry scalp.
Don't ruin your life
Robb
 

Alvinsduckie

Well-known member
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http://etsandreversals.yuku.com/


http://rsdrx.com/sympathectomy_failure.htm


http://www.excessive-sweating-hyperhidrosis.com/John.htm




"CONCLUSIONS: Bilateral upper thoracic sympathectomy partly decreases cardiac sympathetic innervation density."...from
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15922266?dopt=Abstract


for social anxiety..made many ETS patients lose emotions..
http://www.privatix.fi/


"Since October 2004, The Department of Health Executive, Yuan, Taiwan, has prohibited surgeons from performing this operation on patients under 20 years of age."
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/330/7500/1127#110200


from 1947 time magazine...

"Sympathectomy, cutting of the sympathetic nerves, is causing the most violent arguments of all. The operation is now prescribed for a wide variety of ailments, from excessive sweating to high blood pressure. Nobody knows how many thousands of sympathectomies surgeons perform each year; there are an estimated 1,000 in Manhattan alone. Admittedly the operation is a life-saver in many cases of gangrene, angina pectoris, hypertension. But some sympathectomies may make men sterile. And because a sympathectomy reduces pain, some doctors consider it insidiously dangerous, e.g., a patient could have a perforating ulcer without pain. The experts agree that sympathectomy, like the other nerve-cutting operations, is getting out of hand."

http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,854753,00.html


dr's claim ETS is new....they lie

"The first sympathectomy was performed by Dr. Alexander in 1889"
http://medlibrary.org/medwiki/Sympathectomy


http://sympathectomy.blogspot.com/


ETS is not reversible..
"Non surgical treatment should be considered before deciding to undergo operation as the ETS procedure is irreversible"

http://web.archive.org/web/20020111104533/www.esfbchannel.com/experts/2001-05_drott.shtml

http://www.facialblush.com/ETS risks.html


Aussie suicide...

http://ets-sideeffects.net/index.html

there is also a link about reverse-ejaculation post-ETS (this can affect fertility) altho at this time i cannot locate link, however---You now have plenty of stuff to review to make an educated decision on your own.

also--get a second opinion from someone other than the ETS dr. they all give same sales pitch.
 

oirfian

Member
I say wait.
My quick story. I considered myself to be a a person of normal confidence (now 27). with no blushing probs. I did a TEFL course to teach english in spain 3 year ago. If I had had this problem then, I would never have dreamt about doing the cousre( I would have bottled it sure)
I started to get stressed in my classes too often when not knowing the answer in front of students. I went red and this deteriorated so that i´d go red even when they asked me anything simple. this then continued into social situations. consequently has made me very paranoid.
Most people on here have had this prob from teen years. I developed it recently. We both think the same. it´s ridiculous but we can´t stop it.
I was googling this problem ,looking for cures and read someone had hypnotherapy done which cured her. I had always thought hypno was a complete joke, but have been reasearching it and I strongly believe it can help most blushers. it is called specifically hypnotherapy NLP.
I´ve read a few people say it works on forums, and on hypno´s website´s, they explain our problem perfectly and list it as 1 of the probs they can cure. 1 site i found ,was just a dude who had these prob´s and then had NLP and just wanted to communcate his situation and cure.
http://www.cureblushing.com/cureblushing.htm
I plan to visit 1 in my area in august and I will say here how it worked out.
Anyone thinking about surgery should def try hypno first. much cheaper and safer. no reason not to. If anyone has tried this then post here.
 

oirfian

Member
don´t know. let me know what you find out. I´ve found hypno sessions not to be unaffordable. between 50-85 pounds a session. and they say normally u just need 1 or 2. a site i found which i trust in manchester only charges 50 per session. So max for treatment with 2 sessions is 100pounds. sounds reasonable to me to sort this out.
 

Alvinsduckie

Well-known member
YOUTUBE ISSUES

some fuckin' pedophile made a false copyright complaint against ALL of my vids...ETS and all.

I have counter-filed to youtube to reinstate my vids..will have to wait and see or talk to an attorney to get injunction or something (unless someone here knows an atty that can help me)

here is direct link to photobucket...

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/rcmoonpie/?action=view&current=FOX-ETSDec2007.flv

garza vid

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/rcmoonpie/?action=view&current=sympathectomynews-full.flv

hopefully my vids will be back soon.
 

Ihateit

Well-known member
I am now booked in for this procedure .... and as time goes by I am more desperate to have it done. The side effects seem a lot more minimal then the constant blushing. I have got to the point where I am looking for a new job, but am too scared to go for interviews. I know that I want a new job after I have the procedure done but as my contract is finished in a few weeks I have no option but to find a new job ASAP.

I am just so lost in the meantime.
 

Ihateit

Well-known member
Ok, so i have finally had this surgery done .. yesterday.The pain is pretty much unbearable but should die down in the next day or so. I cant even identify if it has helped my blushing as i am in so much pain i can barely move to check. I will keep updating this thread.
 

Ihateit

Well-known member
Okay, so I am quite upset as the surgery has not helped my FB (the main reason why I wanted this done). I am not wuite sure what to do next, are there tablets that can help, any more surgery what? I just don't know what to do.

I really thought that it would minimise the FB so that I could get on with my life, and get the job I have always wanted. I am just so annoyed with this all now, I just don't know what I have to do to stop this severe FB.

:( :( :(

p.s. thanks for the previous message
 

Acme

Well-known member
Hi Ihateit. Hope you are doing alright. Have a few quick questions about your ETS surgery if ok with you:

1) What level(s) of the sympathetic nerve chain were targeted (T2, T3, etc)?

2) What method of ETS was done - were the sympathetic nerve(s) cut, clamped, compressed, etc?

3) Who performed the ETS surgery on you and where?

4) Are you experiencing any side-effects from the surgery?

Thanks.
 
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