what makes me really mad

You'd think, seriously, that people who had suffered something, or who had been close to those that had suffered something would be more open to it, more likely to understand and accept that people have these problems. I mean that makes sense doesnt it?, or is it just me? Because im sure you lot on here, if you found an amzing cure for SP you'd share it, i see you guys sharing advce everyday. You're not just going to say "this is my cure im not sharing it", and act like some sort of scrooge. You'd want to help other people.
But apparently i'm one of the only people that feels like this. I was speaking to some people (on the net) about stuff at the moment and how things seem to be falling apart, how i've had a tough time the last few months etc, i'm not speaking to my dad and he's trying to take away the one person i can rely on, the person who's keeping me sane enough not to hurt myself. Im not saying that ive had an amzingly tough time, ive had a pretty good life, good family, good school, mates, a bf..but sps getting me down loads.
Anyway, this dude comes in and tells me i have no right to feel like this. No frigging right because hes had mates that have killed themselves, and that have been in hospital because of depression and i shouldnt speak of it as 'light heartedly' as i do, and that i dont suffer enough to want to hurt myself. He rekons his mates had 'real problems'. How does HE have the right to define 'real problems'?
Since when did we need to have the right to suffer from sadness, or to want to hurt ourselves. I try and help people that are feeling down and cant stand things anymore, because i know what it feels like, the majority of us on here do, yet this guy who ive never fucking met tells me that im not allowed to suffer because he doesnt think i deserve to.
for fucks sake what is happening to this fucking world man.


sorry, rant over
love yaz
Fred

... that is BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT.

if i only had one pet peeve in my life it would be this.

i HATE IT when people try to tell you that your problems aren't "as bad" as yours or that they've been through worse.

EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT FUCKING LIFE AND HANDLES THINGS UNIQUELY

he just wants pity and by lashing out at you, he's going about it the wrong way. sorry about the probs with your dad, can't really tell you much there, if you still live under him there's not much you can do. what's his logic?

anyway, as much as people are ignorant to the fact that maybe, just maybe, other people have feelings too, and as much as they piss you off, don't let them get you down

yea, thanks. im glad someone agrees i was beginning to think i was alone in my thoughts. really got on my nerves. i get really guilty about it, start persuading myself that im not allowed to have probklmes etc, before i set myself straight and realise its not right

Its the old "walk-a-mile-in-my-shoes" thing. Nobody can tell what your feeling except for you. Ignorance abounds in this world and sometimes all you can do is shake your head and turn away from it.

yea, i know exaclty how you feel worrydoll...
people act like its a competition..and this guy was like 'unless tyuove actually killed yourself or attempted to, youre not allowed to suffer..which makes fuck all sense.
ah people are wierd
and annoying
and stupid
blah

Yeah it sucks when you find out that people who have suffered misfortune etc aren't as understanding as you would expect. I don't like this competition attitude. If you take this, "there's always someone worse off" argument to it's logical conclusion, it would mean there is only one person in the world who is justified in feeling miserable. Which is complete crap.

Such is life though. *sigh*

lol, id have loved to punch him..but id probably miss. then people would laugh.

Want me to piunch him for ya instead then, my aim is impeccable!

hehe, it'd be appreciated some time maybe lilmiss

Their are all types of people out there.
And if you have not suffered first hand then it's hard to understand.
I guess he was bitter, nobody likes a whiner. I am not saying
that is what you did but maybe that was his impression.
I to think like that sometimes.

For example:
I am down on my self because of my SA I have never had or been with a women
but then I think to myself, here I am bitching about trivial things when poor
people in other countries are starving, what wouldn't they give to be in
my shoes and here I am bitching...

Get my point?

I once knew this man which was very unhappy, to keep a long
story short he had a pretty bad life with many downs along the way.
These experiences infested his sole and although he was a nice
carrying and helpful man he was not happy and very negative.
Most people do not like negativity as it brings people down
because of this not many people wanted to socialize with him.

That could be a reason people are so judgmental. They
do not want to deal with negativity.

PS: I am on a mission to re-start old posts and not start new ones.

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PS: I am on a mission to re-start old posts and not start new ones.

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haha

blimey some old faces on here and even an old mod, wonder how they are doing now

ahh pity-party-people, often tact is required but a kick up the arse can also work wonders

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PS: I am on a mission to re-start old posts and not start new ones.

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Thread bumping is'nt that frowned upon, tut tut redski :: lol

I hate that, too. When I had a cutting habit, I remember getting extremely offended when idiots would see someone's marks and go "Oh, (s)he's just doing that for attention, they don't REALLY need help" - and often these comments were from other cutters. I just can't imagine someone reaching out to their friends/other cutters for support by saying "Look what I did to myself" and then being met with hostility instead of help or even a "Why are you doing this? What's going on?"

I mean, wtf? If hurting yourself is the best way you think you can get attention, I'd say you need a lot of help. I once made a post explaining this and the only responses I got were people saying "Yeah, I get that but I know this girl and she really does just do it to get attention" Sigh...right over their heads.

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Thread bumping is'nt that frowned upon, tut tut redski :: lol

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Yes, I know My intention was to get people "talking" on old topics because
a lot of the new threads are actually things from the past.

I am sure I will get an angry pm from a mod soon :S
Also I am pretty new here still so I am trying to catch up

Some people are just ignorant, they think that their problems are more important than others, but in reality, they're just being selfish.

he was the one trying to get the attention on him, idiot, had a simmilar experience!

Serafina said:

I hope that someone wouldn't cut themelves for attention. Not that anything justifies self-mutilation but there are people out there who do stupid things for attention. Honestly, all of the kids that I knew who used to self-mutilate did it because they thought it was cool. Only a few were an exception. This may not have been the case with you or someone who you knew but most of the kids I knew were a bunch of spoiled shit-heads. (Marilyn Manson cut himself on stage so it must have been cool and extreme to do it.) Like the girl I knew who liked to cut herself and happily show off her cuts.

I remember that most of us did not have any problems other than the ones that we created for ourselves. Sure, we were always pissed off at our parents but we had it a lot better than many other kids. It was all a big competition on who had it worse and who felt the most pain. It's a bit embarrassing when I think about it now.

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The thing is, though, when it's something as serious as self mutilation, I don't think it should be brushed off, no matter how spoiled or sh-theaded the people are. The fact that people like Marilyn Manson made it a trend makes it worse in some senses. It gives cutters something to hide behind and makes it more aware to people who wouldn't have cut, otherwise. That trends make people think cutting is ok bothers me.

Not saying we should freak out and call hospital everytime some kid decides to start marking him/herself up, or worry ourselves over it, but I just don't think it's good to be conditioned to automatically dismiss it as teenage bullsh-t, because we know nothing about the circumstances. I treat it the same as someone who makes a lot of remarks about suicide - sure, maybe it's just some goth kid trying to fit in with his/her chosen clique, but unless I know for sure, I'm not going to be all "He's just saying that cause he wants to be a goth and they all think it's cool to do that".

Maybe I'm just overly sensitive about the subject because I've been there. But I've also used all the tricks. I know about how to hide scars, excuses, reasons behind doing it, including attention-cutting, and I know how addicting it becomes. I started out making light scratches and intended to keep it that way and as time went by, my scars were getting deeper and more noticeable and it's not like I made them deeper on purpose - I jut got used to it so I became more comfortable making deeper incisions without even realizing it.

I used to blame my cuts on my iguana and my cats. People believed me because my iguana did have some ridiculously razor-sharp claws and I was always playing with him. But the cuts were all done by myself. I used to be pretty addicted to it, it gave me a rush and I would be cutting myself constantly even in the school bathroom, but I don't do it anymore.

It was definitely not for attention though, I mostly did it where no one could normally see (I cut up my thighs and legs pretty badly) and I always attributed the visible cuts to my pets. Never actually told anyone IRL.

Wow jake, that is surprising to me. I did not know that guys were cutters, I thought it was pretty much women. Im also surprised people believed you. Its good that you don't cut anymore.