What Do You Care What Other People Think?

Riiya

Well-known member
I don't care what people think of me.

It's when people think I'm wrong do I take it personally. Please, I'm always right.
 

Danfalc

Banned
Yeah its not really that i care what other people (tho i guess we all do to a certain extent).Its more like i feel like im just messed up and do somthing wrong everytime i talk or am around people in social situations.
 

powerfulthoughts

Well-known member
Yeah its not really that i care what other people (tho i guess we all do to a certain extent).Its more like i feel like im just messed up and do somthing wrong everytime i talk or am around people in social situations.

But why do you feel like you do something wrong or mess up if you don't care what other people think? If you really didn't care, then you wouldn't have such a high evaluation of your behavior around others.
 

Danfalc

Banned
But why do you feel like you do something wrong or mess up if you don't care what other people think? If you really didn't care, then you wouldn't have such a high evaluation of your behavior around others.

Because me messing up means i cant have a laugh and do the things i want,i mean you have a point but still.I said in my post we all care what other people think to a certain extent.But im my biggest critic not other people.
 
Yes, I do care, I care much more than I should, and I don't know why. I wish I was one of those people who could just be comfortable with themselves and not care what people think.
 

Qoo

Active member
Someone said "Human is social animal" That why i must care about other people think about me :)
 

worrywort

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brilliant article...thanks for posting....made a lot of sense. Some guys at my work the other day we're talking about another worker who's quiet, while I was in the room, and they weren't being very nice, mocking his "morose" nature....but it seemed to hit me hard....and it's probably because they were disapproving of things that I personally identified with, even though they weren't directly disapproving of me.

I think the article is right....I like to think that I'm independent and don't care what others think, but if I'm honest, when other people disapprove of me I know it'll probably make me feel bad.

I was a bit disappointed with the solution the article gave though....the idea of not thinking of yourself as a person?! maybe I misunderstood, but I don't like the idea of detaching myself or denying any part of who I am. I have parts of me that I'm really proud of....I wouldn't want to repress them.

For me I think maybe the solution can be found in rationalizing the source of the dissaproval...i.e. who is dissapproving of you and how valid do you think their statement really is? Because if some silly little 5 year old mocked the shape of my ears for some reason, it wouldn't bother me because I'd know that he hasn't learnt not to judge books by their covers yet. But if Ghandi, or John Lennon or maybe just someone I look up to, like a parent or teacher, if they were to dissapprove of me, it would hit me harder because I'd value their opinion that much more....erm, but then I wouldn't want to make myself feel better after being dissaproved by a person by looking for ways to discredit and lower the value of their opinion. That seems mean and wrong. I guess, somehow, we'd need to become our own measuring stick, and know ourselves fully....then, if someone dissapproves of us, we can say," yea, you're right, I already knew that and I'm working on it at my own pace....thanks for pointing it out though!"

erm...I'm not sure though.....I need to think some more about this one!
 

powerfulthoughts

Well-known member
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If any of you have not read the article in the opening post, please do. It is very insightful and helpful.

worrywort said:
I was a bit disappointed with the solution the article gave though....the idea of not thinking of yourself as a person?! maybe I misunderstood, but I don't like the idea of detaching myself or denying any part of who I am. I have parts of me that I'm really proud of....I wouldn't want to repress them.

I think maybe you did misunderstand. I think the point was to completely let go of your ego, since it refers to your "person" as your ego. So when we let go of our ego, then we are not affected very much by people's approval or disapproval. The more we value and crave approval from others, the more we will fear their disapproval. And this is the problem we face. The article talks about how people can essentially "purchase" others by feeding them lots of approval, and then threatening them with the fear of disapproval (a very subtle form of control). But if we detach ourselves from this ego, this concept of valuing praise or fearing rejection, then we have truly liberated ourselves on a very fundamental level.

So I think the article gave a very good solution, and really, the only one that there is.

Peace
 

JA2007

Well-known member
Thank you, Powerful Thoughts, for this article. It really made me think about how all of my problems are caused by the complete and absolute fear of others' disapproval. I will work on detaching my personal identity from what others think of me. That really is the source of my social anxiety and a lot of the other things I was too afraid to pursue in life.
 

worrywort

Well-known member
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I think the point was to completely let go of your ego, since it refers to your "person" as your ego.

aaah! gotcha! person=ego....I did not get that!...yea that's good advice then! I could always do with losing a bit more of my ego!

I'm still not totally convinced that not caring about other peoples approval or dissaproval is always a good thing.....just cause there are some people, like my parents or older brothers, whose opinions I really value....if they dissaproved of something I did, I would really take it on board and digest it and think about it....but I think it's important to recognise that the only person who can make the final judgement call is yourself. I think my problem is that I take things to heart more than I should.

But there's definitely still a lot to take from this article. Lots to think about. I'm still not sure I fully understand it or know how to go about putting it into practice.....but tis definitely interesting!
 

powerfulthoughts

Well-known member
Thanks worrywort. I have a few more thoughts I'm also itching to type out, so.. here goes.

My view is that the only approval you should be seeking is from yourself. You know your values, and if people can steer you better towards those values, then great. But to yearn for approval or fear disapproval makes you a captive. If my mom disagrees with me going out of town because she thinks there's danger there.. then I must stop and think, "is what she is asking of me going against my values, or is it more about her personal fears?" If I conclude it fits with my values, then I will go and must not fear disapproval from her, because if I did, I would instead not go in order to get her approval, thereby becoming a slave of this "game" just as the article talked about.

Of course we should always appreciate the approval of others. I don't think you should get the idea that this article means that we should just devalue every person and their opinions -- no. We should definitely hear and respect others, but we should never need someone's approval or fear their disapproval in order feel valuable, because we become victims of their control.

Our value and worth is in tact whether people say so or not.
 

worrywort

Well-known member
ah thats the one! yea I think that was what my brain was trying to tell me but I couldn't quite articulate it!...we should appreciate the approval of others but our self worth should never be dependant on it. Yea that sounds right.
 
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