This life seems so pointless.

ktea

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Can someone offer me some solid, credible advice?

If you look at it from an evolutionary perspective, we're nothing more than advanced humanoids, who are here to reproduce and die. From a business perspective, we're here to think hard, study, earn money, and buy things and then die. There are obviously other reasons to live, but on top of it all we have bills and obstacles. Health, interpersonal relationships, many things really.

All in all, when you combine everything, along with how people can suck in life, and how it can all be so mundane, how does one find hope in really living for anything? Or, at least, any point in life?
Most people live to better themselves and obtain things and to just have fun. What happens after you have it all and have done it all?

Life seems pointless and complicated.
 

blonderedhead

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I often worry about a somewhat similar thing. Hmmm... I don't think anyone can truly give an answer to what the point of life is. But what makes it all worth those things is love! It's not about the things you obtain or what you accomplish that makes up happiness, its just about the love. I hope we all find it someday and it changes the entire world we're living in!!!
 

Sacrament

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How do you know that you've done it all, so to speak? You can never do everything there is to do. There are always so many things that we can fill our lives with, so many hobbies, so many ideas, so many images.

It's all about what we do with our lives, how far we go and the self-rewards that our conquests bring.

Of course we're all going to die, but what good does it do thinking about it, really? You're here NOW, so do what you like doing now (be wise, of course) and think about tomorrow when tomorrow comes.
 

lifes_to_long

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apart of life is finding the things that interest you and keep you happy, the important thing is to remember that what ever you chose is to benefit you alone primarily, so go with what feels right.someones happy meal at mac donalds could be your saving a fly from drowning and its all equally valuable.So go out there and do what you have to and find your equalibrium. good luck.oli
 

4seasons

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You're right, thats exactly what life is. We're just here living in our own little world where the most important thing in life is "success". Why are those who don't reach this point considered a failer? People spend the majority of their lives trying to reach a certain level of knowledge and experience to get to a point in life where the have this tittle and make lots of money. In the end are they really happy? They spend half their life impressing people and sitting behind a desk. Its not worth it i my opinion because what do objects and money and money really mean? You'll look successful to other people, thats about it. Just find one thing you love in life, one passion that makes you happy and stick with it. Try not to think outside the box, we are what we are, look around you, what you see is what you get, and be happy you have life.
 

Incognito

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Frankly, I don't believe the Universe gives a damn about me. There's no purpose, plan, or meaning to our lives. But who cares? Guess what, if there's no point to life it means you're free to do anything! Just pursue WHATEVER excites you, turns you on, or makes you happy as long as you don't hurt anyone else. These things matter because they matter to you.
 

stitches

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I did not write this but it answers your question.

What is the Meaning of Life?

"What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" -Mark 8:36-37 (NIV)

What is life? Truly, what is a life well lived? What satisfies the innermost parts of man? Does not all humanity search for answers? And yet life ends with only more questions. What is the sense in that? What kind of justice is that? Life is filled with inconceivable paradoxes. We search, but we do not know what we look for. We feel that there must be an answer, yet we are unsure of the questions. Our souls long for something to fill the aching within us, and yet nothing seems to satisfy. Can there truly be meaning?

There are various ways that most of us go about filling the void within us. Some succeed in all they do, hoping that their next achievement will somehow give them what they truly desire. But alas, it only serves to deepen the thirst, driving us on toward greater achievements but the thirst itself is never to be satisfied. Some turn to religion, only to find that there is nothing to be found in legalism; there is no power in the strict adherence to hard if not obscure laws. Some turn to addictions and in the end are controlled by them. Others try to find themselves in relationships, only to be hurt time and again by the ones they opened up to and loved. Still others simply give up and retreat within themselves, as if to wait out the sentence of life for the blessed rest of oblivion. If we dig deeper and are honest with ourselves, we are faced with the ultimate question: What is life? The next question that follows is: Why?

It seems as if humankind is on an endless quest for meaning. It drives us onward, ever searching, ever pressing, ever pleading for the answer. We hunt, we conquer, we kill, we play, we create, we sing, we wail and cry out in everything we do, always searching for the answer. And yet we do not find it. Our souls moan in agony of what we long and hope for and yet it escapes us; ethereal, it always slips just beyond our grasp like water between the fingers.

If we are honest and look into the depths of who we are, we find staring us in our faces all of our futility, our inadequacies, our desperation, and our sin. Some deny that we are spiritual creatures, saying instead that we are merely matter, driven by the chemical impulses that occur in the synapses of our brain. How can those chemicals make us weep at the loss of a loved one, smile at a newborn child, and feel hopelessness and despair? Those who deny their own spirituality deny a part of themselves and die a death unimaginable. If there is not something larger than us, if there is no purpose to life, if we are the product of chance, what is the point in living? There is no hope for those who abandon their very self.

What then is there for the rest of us, those who do not deny their spirituality, but cannot find a way to fulfill it? Is there hope? There must be, but where is it and upon what is it based? Many believe that the answers lie within us, that somehow the human potential that is within each of us can be unlocked. But how are we to unlock our inner potential? Where is the key? We strain and we struggle against something that we dont quite understand, something that cant quite be defined. We long to be free from the shackles that bind us but we cannot free ourselves; we dont know how. Our yearning is to become what we feel that we were meant to be, something greater and more glorious than the ever-present now.

If we cannot free ourselves, we next turn to others. Answer the cries of our hearts, we plead, fulfill our innermost beings. However, this path ends in futility as well. If others cannot set themselves free, how will they liberate us?

Most of us are appalled at the final option, instead choosing to go back to the endless and unfulfilling search. We would choose to live in denial rather than face the idea of a supreme being, a deity. The reasons for this are as varied and as numerous as the pebbles on a beach.

Pride holds some people back, a defiance and a tenacity to do things on their own. The illusion of being self-made offers a pretty picture for some, but all too often the costs are much greater than expected. He who dies with the most toys, the saying goes, wins. Do they really? What good is it to gain the whole world and yet forfeit your soul, having never experienced love? Where is the joy in having material possessions or in becoming the most successful person on earth? How empty a life that is without something greater to live for than oneself! Pride is to curse God and then to die. It is merely temporary satisfaction, much like treating the symptoms and ignoring the disease.

For many, their view of God is shaped by their life experiences, carved out by their trials and tribulations. He is not a good god, but one that delights in the suffering of the peoples of the earth. Why should our hope and even our trust be placed in a god like that? Why indeed, if that is your view of God? He might be able to set us free from the very things that bind us, but to what end? To death? To hell? To a different kind of slavery? If that is what God is really like, it is better to not believe in Him. Perhaps He will ignore or forget about mankind and simply go away.

Others have a small view of God, someone who created the earth and then left to do something else. From time to time, He looks in on things and might change something, but for the most part leaves things the way they are. Why even bother with Him? This type of god simply doesnt care, hes apathetic toward the human race. Many people would make Him out to be impersonal and aloof, perhaps because they are the same way. They have been deadened by the harsher realities of life and have ceased to see the beauties of it. They simply dont care about anything and they dont want God to care either.

The underlying theme of all of life can be encapsulated into one question: Is God trustworthy? Most, if they are honest with themselves, believe that God exists, but they dont completely trust Him. They have been tainted by bitter experiences or perhaps everyday life. In their eyes, the very nature of God has been diluted and twisted. Only by looking at the past can we truly see the story behind history, glimpsing at the true character of God. When we see that God is a god of love, then we will be able to see the threads of story that our lives play in the grandest drama of all time. Then we will understand and perhaps will begin to be able to truly live.

Before all of time and history, before the created existed, God lived and moved and loved. The very essence of His heart and soul and being was love. In His love and out of it He created, not first the earth and man, but the heavenly beings. They reflected in many ways the very being of God, luminous and diverse, ethereal and beautiful to behold, individual beings of a free will. In the midst of their created splendor and magnificence, tragedy struck.

The most beautiful and powerful of the heavenly beings, Lucifer, the son of the morning, betrayed the Most High. He was determined to become God, and in his pride and deceit, he convinced a third of the heavenly beings to share in his folly. There was a great war and he was cast out of the heavenlies, along with all his followers. He had betrayed the very One who had created him.

God, out of His love, then created the earth and mankind in hope that they, of their own free will, would love and trust Him. He created man and woman to rule the earth and to subdue it. Everything that we see around us today had its potential lying there at creation, waiting only to be unlocked by one of the caretakers. God set before mankind an absolute paradise, the likes of which we could never even imagine.

Oh, but we fell, we fell from that heavenly paradise, dragged down by our pride, by Satans promise that we could be like God. Sin became our stumbling block and separated us from our Creator, the very One who cared for us. Even though He loves us deeply, God could not tolerate the unholy and impure, and so we were banished from paradise and were condemned to die because of our sins.

God could not bear leaving us to die, eternally damned to the fires of hell. He knew that there was nothing mankind could do on its own to regain its righteousness, its paradise lost. He called from among the nations, one nation, Israel, to be pure and holy and set apart for Him, an example for all mankind. He gave Israel the Law as a guideline for holiness, even though there was no one who could fulfill all the requirements that it contained. Man needed to see for himself that there was nothing he could do to achieve purity and righteousness. Israel, Gods chosen nation, failed again and again, turning to false gods and turning against God. Their wickedness and betrayal led them into destruction and captivity, exiled first among the Babylonians, then the Persians, the Greeks, and finally the Romans.

God was not done with Israel or the human race, however; no matter how sinful we had become, He still loved us. He knew that ours was an innocence lost, and that we could never be made pure on our own again. We needed help, and we needed it desperately. Fear not, God said, Your Deliverer is coming.

One quiet night, in the small city of Bethlehem, a savior, the Son of God, was born. He was born to poor parents, but He had heavenly riches. He was born a King, and yet He did not come to rule. Jesus came to set us free from our sins so that we could enter the presence of God once again.

Jesus began His ministry at the age of thirty and for three years He moved among the people of Israel, teaching them, curing sicknesses and diseases, healing the blind and lame, and raising the dead to life. He was love come to life for He ministered to those who were poor and without hope, desperate and longing for a helping hand. He met them at their needs, giving them both physical and spiritual healing.

Still, in the midst of all the healing, our sins needed to be accounted for, a price needed to be paid. Only a sacrifice that was pure and holy could cover over our iniquities. Jesus became that sacrifice by dying on the cross, He died so that we might live. He shed His blood instead of spilling ours, all because He loved us so. He was laid in a tomb and buried. But death could not hold Him, the grave could not conquer the Son of God. Three days later He rose again.

It is in the resurrection of Jesus that we find our hope. It is in His death that we find life. For now we know that, even if we die, we can rise again. We know that even though we have sinned, Jesus sacrifice has paid the way to righteousness and life. We can be transformed, crossing over from death to life, a new creation, a child of God. Jesus Christ became the bridge from God to man. But how does this happen?

There exists in the heart of every man and every woman a God-shaped hole. If left unfilled, this hole will ache, it will gnaw at the spirit, it will tug at the soul. Many try to fill it with earthly things, but to no avail. Such things can satisfy only temporarily and will never last. But Jesus satisfies, Jesus fills that hole and He takes your heart and holds it gently in the palm of His hand. He is seeking you out, longing to comfort you. Behold, He says, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me. (Revelation 3:20) He is calling out to all those who will listen, Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light." (Matthew 11:28-30)

God is trustworthy. He can be trusted with our hearts, our hopes and our fears. He loves us so much that He sent His Son to die for us. He gives life to all who seek Him, He saves all who call on His name.

So what is the meaning of life? Simply this: We were created for paradise and the presence of God, but we have fallen, never to regain what we lost because of our sins. But God loved us so much that He could not bear to leave us fallen; He sent His one and only Son pay the price for our sins by dying on a cross. Through His Son, Jesus Christ, we can regain paradise, we can reenter the presence of God. Through Jesus, we can have eternal and everlasting life.
 

lifes_to_long

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wow i wish i cud be bothered to read that because I imagine its pretty interesting maybe some other time actually someone tell me if they think its worth reading then I'll know for sure thanks.oli
 

Doomed2Die

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stitches, nice find.

I could not agree more with the message, however I consider a few minor points different. Out of curosity, may I ask where did you aquire this set of belief? Assuming you agree with all of this of course...

lifes_to_long said:
wow i wish i cud be bothered to read that because I imagine its pretty interesting maybe some other time actually someone tell me if they think its worth reading then I'll know for sure thanks.oli

It is worth differently for any individual, but the potential is unexplainably huge (as it mentions in the post).
 

coriander1992

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There is always more to do, to give, to say, to think, to feel.
That's what motivates us to strive for more..wether you look at it from a business/economic or plain survival instinct angle, there is always more.

Hang in there :)
 

stitches

New member
My belief came from God.


So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. - Romans 10:17
 

Doomed2Die

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stitches said:
My belief came from God.


So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. - Romans 10:17

And yet... "consider one another to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together." (Hebrews 10:24, 25)[NWT]

Again I don't mean to pry. But who do you gather with?
 

SpiderJerusalem

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@ Stitches: The bible was written by humans (and no, they didn't hear easterbunny's oops i mean god's voice), don't get me wrong..it's a GREAT FICTIONAL story, but that's all it is. FREE YOUR MIND people!

There is no meaning like said before, but you make one yourself.
 

Doomed2Die

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SpiderJerusalem said:
FREE YOUR MIND people!...

...There is no meaning like said before, but you make one yourself.

Everyone has their own choices to make, everybody is exercising their free mind with every choice they do. You said your belief yourself.
 

Nic_ohyes

Member
there is no proof the bible was written by man, like there is no proof it was written by god. let people have faith where they have faith. the bible inspires millions of people around the world to lead good healthy lives,i see nothing wrong in that, wether it be because you want to go to heaven or wether it be because you agree with that way of living but belief god is a load of shite, most of it you can use for philosophical purposes anyways. bit like the final word on jerry springer.

but! you would be suprised the amount of non believers who still prey in bad times.

im aithiest by the way lol so no im not preaching.
 

stitches

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SpiderJerusalem said:
@ Stitches: The bible was written by humans (and no, they didn't hear easterbunny's oops i mean god's voice), don't get me wrong..it's a GREAT FICTIONAL story, but that's all it is. FREE YOUR MIND people!

There is no meaning like said before, but you make one yourself.

My mind is free, the Bible is the Word of God not of man.

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Romans 3:10-11

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Jeremiah 17:9

And yet... "consider one another to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together." (Hebrews 10:24, 25)[NWT]

Again I don't mean to pry. But who do you gather with?

I don't go to church if that's what your asking .


For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 1 Peter 4:17 (KJV)
 

Lost_Guy

Member
I read something once that said "Love is a process, not a destination."

The more commonly known phrase probably comes from the Aerosmith song, "Life's a journey, not a destination."

Worry not about the destination, just take a breath and enjoy the view 8)
 
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