Read all+ consider all possibilities, don't be egocentric
Petrov said:
Hey, listen,
First off, what you call 'social phobia' is not a disease, it is a neurosis. The biological component is a result of the psychological state.
Secondly, I'm not an idiot, im not uneducated, i struggled with shyness, social phobia or social anxiety for many years and I've read everything there is to read about it. I realise that the answers dont seem that simple when you are experiencing it but the truth is, in essence, they actually are.
The more you procastinate, analyse and obsess over the problem the worse it will become.
The correct treatment is to try to prevent yourself from undertaking any form self conscious analysis and to meditate on ways to overcome your ego. Learn to consider others before yourself, realise that all people are like you and that all people experience suffering in some form and wish to prevent it.
Yawn, the more we procrastinate, analyse..... tell us something we don't know...
First of all how do you come to all these wonderful conclusion- lot's of theory based off of personal experience.. try to remember people don't come in a one size fit's all brain.. you have to back up what you say with some scientific fact. Secondly, you might not be an idiot- that was me being defensive in return for you agreeing with two-words surmise that 'everyone' who comes to this site is an idiot- must be my 'egocentricism' coming out. Thirdly, in alot of cases we can change our brain's chemistry for the worst by incorrect reasoning- you are right there- just as through CBT (or changing our philosophies to see things more rationally) we can change it for the better.
Now if you look at the real truth (and not your 'egocentric' truth based off of your personal experience) you will find that humans personality is based off of the brains complex wiring. Can the biological component, such as serotonin levels drop, because of the psychological component- i.e, negative thinking- of course- but the brain is cyclic in many cases and it can go either way. So, in short there are alot of people here who can simply snap out of it by not being too egocentric and to bucking up and getting some confidence- no doubt. But people who truly have SAD (I suspect you were just an unfortunate shy person who is correct- you were just being egocentric) have a biological predisposition and must work a little harder. Should we be less egocentric, yes... should we stop proscratinating- YES! Should we leave this site to make arrogant people who think everyone else is just like them and should get over it- NO! People who are more than just shy and actually have SAD need a community of people who they can communicate with and won't feel misunderstood when talking too. Now should we avoid not helping ourselves and using this site as a crutch- of course any moron should realize that.
This is my recommendation- YES_ STOP PROCRASTINATING... change your shemas (this includes focusing on other peoples probs and not on your own)--- CBT helps with this- this will help when being in social situations- but in many cases because this is in fact a biological (and inherited) condition, learn how to control your anxiety by learning how to control biological responses to danger- meditation helps with controling anxiety- and lastly, get out there and do things that cause you discomfort- start off small and work your way up- for example, start off by simply saying high or making small talk with a stranger and eventually get to the point where you can make talk with an attractive woman, see?-- I'm not quit to the point where I can walk up to an attractive woman whom I don't know yet and carry on a long convo- but I am getting there- I can say hi
PSS- Whether calling SAD a biological condition makes you feel weak or not- the truth is- it is- but I prefer to call it by its other name a disorder- not a disease.
PSSS- oh, yeah, studying other philosophies- such as buddhist philosophy helps- but doesn't take away the science that SAD is more than a simple neurosis. Granted, there are probably alot of people coming to this site such as Petrov and two words and others who were simply neurotic and who have solved their probs by dealing soley with their neurosis.
PSSSS- to everyone- read anything on CBT and also the Dali Lama's: 'The Art of Happiness" is helpful.
PSSSSS- to the egocentric people who were or are just shy or neurotic- educate yourselves on more than the philosophies of psychology also educate yourselves on the facts that have been proven in research. OR, just leave us alone already- you really have no clue.
