Saddam Hussein

[NYOrdeal]

i just wonder why all the non-westerners are so critical with western world. here in the west we can have free opinions and support them in public places, whereby you cant.

i also think that christianism and islamism are one of the biggest evils of human history. they have brought to this world nothing but moralism.
and im really proud that western society is becoming free of them. whereby you are ruled by this religious biggots.

See thats what YOU see.
Go to the rest of the Western Third World.
That has so well been backed-up by the U.S. and look at the horrible state they are in.
Although their leaders are a bunch of thieves they still get left in because of their respectful "Democracy" supported by the U.S.
In these "Democracies" similar to the U.S. the Government does their best to keep all activist,marchers quiet on wether they should make a deal with the U.S. (Free Trade etc)
Might i add that the whole free opinion to a extent is bullshit, ex: 8th grade girl got visited by the Secret Service for posting a eulogy of Bush dying, big brother law,new cameras etc.

Might i also add that Cuba keeps getting attacked even though its the country with least benefits from the U.S. yet they have the best chance of surviving in the Third World. (Where as in the rest of the third world you don't have access to basic needs!)
Why?? Because they are NOT a puppet of the U.S.
All thats missing is for the rest of the Third World to wake up, and release those chains.

 

[Screwdriver1020]

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[romeno82]

dont get me wrong. i also think bush is a fucking idiot, half a criminal. and so the US politics. but still the vast majority in west are good people. so i think also in the rest of the world.

by the way im european and i have never been in US. so i can tell you how it is here. here in EU politics and the police are some-what OK.
BUT in your contries people get tortured (not just 100cases/year like in the west, 100000/year), newspapers totally controlled by regime, and so on... so dont tell bullshit like "you get arrested cos you swear", it may be true but its just insignificant.

for me personally i dont give a fuck about iraq. i think it was a tremendous fault to storming the iraq. but with one i agree with you: saddam wasnt the goal in this war. saddam was the medium to reach other goals. (petrolium or whaterver, i dont know)

BUT in one thing i think im right: mid-orient people are such religious fanatics. and i cant stand fanatics.

Nah I'm gonna guestimate that in the next 200 years will be the apocalypse that's my guestimation. I'm a christian and it seems like this world is getting out of control so someone needs to come fix it.

youre right the (western)world is getting out of control. but thats positive.
west needs to find a new balance. and thats what going to happen for the next 100 years.

 

[FlirtyandDirty]

Why the fuck is it bullshit. And why is it insignificant that you cannot swear without being arrested. WHY??? It starts with something as simple as this. I am not a kid, I am a 45 year old woman with grown children and grandchildren, who has watched things change. It is not bullshit trust me.

 

[romeno82]

sorry i wouldnt be offensive. but yeah, it starts with small things like this

 

[sensitive]

It's not true that all non-westerners are critical about the West. That's fucking nonsense. Who said we are ruled by religion bigots, most countries here are ruled by dictators who knows nothing about religion.

We can all see how America are so upset because people in Latin America elected socialists who are opposed to american goals there. America doesn't care about anybody, it's the root of most problems in this planet.

The current iraqi regime is worse than Saddam's because they discriminate iraqis and it only represents certain political groups there, it's similar to Vichy regime in France in World War ll.

I'm going to tell why i support Saddam (although that's not true but it seems so to you) the answer is from iraqis themselves. Ask any iraqi whether they want Saddam back to autority in Iraq or just accept this situation they would definitely choose Saddam.

We can talk for ever about these issues but i'm not going to say more, that's all what i got.

 

[NYOrdeal]

It's not true that all non-westerners are critical about the West. That's fucking nonsense. Who said we are ruled by religion bigots, most countries here are ruled by dictators who knows nothing about religion.

We can all see how America are so upset because people in Latin America elected socialists who are opposed to american goals there. America doesn't care about anybody, it's the root of most problems in this planet.

The current iraqi regime is worse than Saddam's because they discriminate iraqis and it only represents certain political groups there, it's similar to Vichy regime in France in World War ll.

I'm going to tell why i support Saddam (although that's not true but it seems so to you) the answer is from iraqis themselves. Ask any iraqi whether they want Saddam back to autority in Iraq or just accept this situation they would definitely choose Saddam.

We can talk for ever about these issues but i'm not going to say more, that's all what i got.

Exactly!!
People dont seem to understand that the U.S. has been supporting countries's regimes and exploitating them of everything the country has.
Democracy lol..democracy my ass, more like polyarchy (As Chomsky refers to it)

Seriously people, the U.S. has been trying to run things for the longest now ...everytime its about "restoring peaceful Democracy" they end destroying the land
Perfect ex: HAITI and Latin America.
Latin America has been under U.S. support for lord knows how long.
"Democracy" has been there and they still can't get their acts together
..why? Because the U.S. controls them.

Its until people actually rebel against the Neo-Cons, that they would see a change
Ex: Fidel, Hugo,Correa
Latin America is starting to notice how they been exploitated, and im waiting to see the huge propaganda campaign the U.S. is going to launch..if not...the attacks...just like they attacked Nicaragua when the Socialist's Sandinistas where in power for kicking out U.S. power and when Arbenz kicked out that super exploitation company "United Fruit"

 

[plainsofserenity]

Thanks, Sensitive;
You made me think and search. What I've found is - among world leaders, among world citizenry, among Iraqis themselves - there is a vast polarization of opinions. (Of course any opinion posted in an newsrelease or an online newspaper from any country will have strong views)
Some places called Saddam a martyr and term it a politcal assasination other, from all 3 camps I've mentioned, thought it couldn't have happened soon enough.
Regardless of the correctness of the sentence, I think I was wrong to be carried out on a Holy day. I think that says a lot about the American governments knowleged and sensitivity to the area. It's as though they don't know and don't care to understand.
I think Saddam will end up being a symbol.

...and I do make a vastly huge and strong differentiation between the American government and the American people in the same way I would for (insert country's name here).

 

[shipost]

Heres real footage of him getting his neck broke: http://www.fuzzlepop.com/watch/viral-videos/saddam-hussein-execution-video.html

 

[testobot]

any conspiracy theory in the world can not justify the horrible acts that Saddam did. the US has to be judge on its own merits just like saddam has to be judge and punished under his own merits.

if sadam killed thousads then he is guilty of that.. if the US is guilty of being "imperialist pigs" then they are guilty of that.. one doesn't excuse or justify the other.

 

[testobot]

Americans can brag about the sectarian violence

brag? that is just plain wierd... this isn't a football game where we are cheering on sides trying to justify stupidity and murder.

the US elected Bush out of fear after 911--- it was a misjudgement on massive scale- about 51% of the US population felt they needed a 'strong' leader- so they elected someone who appeared decisive and unfortunately beligerent- now Bush has repeatedly proved his foolishness and stupidity--- but his election is evidence of emotional reasoning.. people need to stop thinking reactively out of fear or with their hurt egos and pride and for the sake of justice call 'wrong' wrong... whether it is Bushs stupidity, or the stupidity of sectarian violence, or Sadams brutality.. none of this can excuse or justify the others wrong doing.

 

[justsomekid]

all I can say if we got rid of rumsfeild, and bush is out in 2008, after that america will work on fixing all of bush's mistakes.

the whole iraq occupations was obviously a mistake, and the vast majority of americas outside of texas hate bush. I don't doubt the trial was a joke, but we all know the end result would have been the same.

Have you ever lived under the tender mercy of Sadam Hussain? Rebel violence is horrible, however government sponcered genocide is worse.

 

[NYOrdeal]

Americans can brag about the sectarian violence

brag? that is just plain wierd... this isn't a football game where we are cheering on sides trying to justify stupidity and murder.

the US elected Bush out of fear after 911--- it was a misjudgement on massive scale- about 51% of the US population felt they needed a 'strong' leader- so they elected someone who appeared decisive and unfortunately beligerent- now Bush has repeatedly proved his foolishness and stupidity--- but his election is evidence of emotional reasoning.. people need to stop thinking reactively out of fear or with their hurt egos and pride and for the sake of justice call 'wrong' wrong... whether it is Bushs stupidity, or the stupidity of sectarian violence, or Sadams brutality.. none of this can excuse or justify the others wrong doing.

O trust me my friend i agree completely with you on that.
Im just saying that for the ignorant nationalists.