Perfectionism

Azahara

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Greetings, everyone in this forum.
I could have read that perfectionism is sometimes the cause of Social Phobia.

I´m suffering this. I feel comfortable only when I can control anything in this life. F.e: my job. But I can forgive me any errors, so when I make an error I run away and I choose don´t face to it.

Have anyone of you been diagnosed like a perfectionist?
For more information, I have found this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/articles/personalityandindividuality/perfectionism.shtml
 

LonelyLeaf

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I haven't been diagnosed, as such, but I have tendencies towards it..my room is spot clean and everything is perfectly arranged and has a designated spot..I try not to do it, but I just can't help myself i.e. I like order and system in things to ward of all the other chaos in my life at the moment..interesting article
 

Azahara

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Sacrament said:
That's not perfeccionism, but OCD.


Wow! you talk like a perfectonist. You don´t express your opinion but pass a sentence.
Don´t worry, You have to agree with you, only a little. According to different phychiatrists perfectionism is a minor diorder within all these disdorders belong to the sprectrum of obssessions. :D
 

Predacon

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I don't have a big problem with it, I probably do have some perfectionist tendancies. I hate when I make a mistake and people notice makes me inadequate for no good reason.
 

Azahara

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Predacon said:
I don't have a big problem with it, I probably do have some perfectionist tendancies. I hate when I make a mistake and people notice makes me inadequate for no good reason.


However my case is different from yours. I usually go rounds and rounds in my mind when I have the feeling that I make an error, or talk to someone in a rude way. That situation make me feel depressive during days.
Perhaps you have only tendencies. There would be different degrees of perfectionism. Mine perfectionist make me avoid different situations or face to problems because of the fear I have to not doing perfect. I block out. And this is very fustrating.
I celebrate this wasn´t your case. :cry:
 

Sacrament

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When you're working on a paper, a poem, a song, or painting (for instance) and you're never happy with the results, claiming that there's something missing and so forth: that is perfectionism; when you're 'forced' to organize everything by size or alphabetic order or stack magazines in an absolutely perfect manner (among hundreds of other things): that is OCD.

I agree with you, though, when you call your behavior perfeccionist and not obsessive-compulsive. I suppose I focused my reply on the poster below you.
 

Kamen

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I am a perfectionist and even if the quality of my work is higher than that of others, I usually think it is not enough; I want more. If I think I won't be able to meet my own standards in something, I prefer to not bother at all. All this makes things to look a lot harder. What you should remember is that you learn throughout life and since you are alive, you have a lot to learn and mistakes are normal. They help you to adjust your understanding and find the right way.
As for if it is a disorder... Well, I think that could be way too much, since the limits are somewhat blurred. Some simply stricter people could mistakenly fit under that hat. Today, doctors put the word "disorder" so freely, that for example some more sensitive and imaginative people end up having schizotypal or schizoid personality disorder, which is ridiculous. That's why some specialists think those types are flawed.
I think Azahara's problem is not only perfectionism, but social phobia, as well - the fear of making fool of themselves in front of others is a typical SP feature, which adds to their avoidance of "dangerous" situations.
 
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Azahara

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Sacrament said:
I agree with you, though, when you call your behavior perfeccionist and not obsessive-compulsive. I suppose I focused my reply on the poster below you.
Sacrament, I know you are referring to the second post(sorry but I can´t remember his/her nickname, something like Sleepeeng...) not me; but I don´t agree with you. From my point of view this case may be perfectionism, but I´m not a spchiatrist. There are different kind of perfectionism, some people usually claen their house over and over again, some other feel more comfotrtable with having all thing paced in a certain way. But anyway, I have o learnt more.
:lol:
 

Sacrament

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In LonelyLeaf's case, I do believe that it may be a combination of both perfectionism and OCD.

I haven't been diagnosed, as such, but I have tendencies towards it..my room is spot clean and everything is perfectly arranged and has a designated spot..I try not to do it, but I just can't help myself i.e. I like order and system in things to ward of all the other chaos in my life at the moment..interesting article

The underlined part seems like perfectionism, but the part in bold seems like OCD-ish behaviour.
 

Kamen

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The daughter of an acquaintance of my mother has OCD. It has begun exactly with the obsession to make sure her stuff is arranged. Her mother has often seen her arranging her stuff again and again.
To have very high standards and powerful desire to constantly improve and perfect things is called perfectionism, but to have repetitive, obsessive thoughts about something, to check and recheck it, is called OCD.
It's a matter of labeling, of course. Azahara may prefer to call it "a kind of perfectionism", but psychiatrists usually call it OCD.
 

weak

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It would certainly explain my SA if that was the case. I'll spend an hour getting ready just to go somewhere for 10 minutes and if I'm not totally satisfied with the way I look I wont leave the house... thus why I will never make plans for a later date. Odds are that day will come, I wont like the way I look and end up canceling. So I just wait till that day comes that I have a 'good hair day' and basically take care of everything that requires social interaction as quickly as possible and then I retire to my cave. Its pathetic. I wont even go out to get my mail without first gelling my hair.

It's all a matter of me trying to be something Im not. I cant accept who and what I really am.
 

Azahara

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LonelyLeaf said:
I haven't been diagnosed, as such, but I have tendencies towards it..my room is spot clean and everything is perfectly arranged and has a designated spot..I try not to do it, but I just can't help myself i.e. I like order and system in things to ward of all the other chaos in my life at the moment..interesting article

Read this page, perhaps can help you!
:wink:
http://www.panichub.com/obsessive-compulsive-disorder.html
 

Azahara

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Sacrament said:
In LonelyLeaf's case, I do believe that it may be a combination of both perfectionism and OCD.

I haven't been diagnosed, as such, but I have tendencies towards it..my room is spot clean and everything is perfectly arranged and has a designated spot..I try not to do it, but I just can't help myself i.e. I like order and system in things to ward of all the other chaos in my life at the moment..interesting article

The underlined part seems like perfectionism, but the part in bold seems like OCD-ish behaviour.

I have obsessions but reading a page I´´m now more comfortable. You were right. I also thought that I have OCD. But there´´s a difference between and obssesive personality(perfectionism) and OCD.
:oops:
 
yeah, im definitely a perfectionist. i feel a need to have things perfect, and i wont try something unless i know i will get it right and i wont have ppl making fun of me. its difficult because being a perfectionist leaves you stressed out all the time and then i have problems with depression and insomnia. does anyone else have that too?
 

Luna_LL

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Azahara said:
Greetings, everyone in this forum.
I could have read that perfectionism is sometimes the cause of Social Phobia.

I´m suffering this. I feel comfortable only when I can control anything in this life. F.e: my job. But I can forgive me any errors, so when I make an error I run away and I choose don´t face to it.

Have anyone of you been diagnosed like a perfectionist?
For more information, I have found this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/articles/personalityandindividuality/perfectionism.shtml

Yes, this is me. I'm a neurotic perfectionist that is and that stinks, but I kind of knew it deep down. I have at least three of these disorders.
 

Azahara

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kathyprice19 said:
yeah, im definitely a perfectionist. i feel a need to have things perfect, and i wont try something unless i know i will get it right and i wont have ppl making fun of me. its difficult because being a perfectionist leaves you stressed out all the time and then i have problems with depression and insomnia. does anyone else have that too?

Exactily, this is me. When I´m at work I all the time worry about doing things perfect, when I arrive home, I´m rarely being satisfied what I have done. I can´t stop thinking how to improve my work, and it´s difficult for me to sleep enough, ´cause I know next day I will feel the same. Each day is like a pull a big stone out up to the Everest. :cry:
 
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