Overpopulation

coyote

Well-known member
everything changes - all the time

nothing stays the same forever

sometimes you just have to keep going until things get better

if you can't do it alone, ask for help

that's what human beings do

there is nothing wrong with that
 
As for jobs I think every job is important,it doesnt matter if its flipping burgers or what,I like to eat burgers so that job is important to me as should be to everybody else,everyone likes to eat burgers but dont want to think that the person who makes them is important,everyone plays a crucial part to keep the world going.

Okay yeah, someone is going to have to do the burger flipping, but how can you blame me that I don't want a life of that - after all I spent my whole life with a parent who worked those kinds of jobs and we never had any money, always lived in public housing. Money was always the main source of anxiety. I don't want a life like that. I've never been middle class and college would have been my way to change that.

Something I realized last night by doing a scan of the majors in some of the colleges here is that I'm not interested in most of them. The ones that are actually interesting to me require advanced degrees (and I don't have the money to complete one), and the ones that are actually useful just as Bachelors - well, I lack the skills to complete some of the upper-level courses required such as physics, organic chemistry, and calculus.

Really, the only useful degrees I'd do well in are the two-year healthcare degrees because the math and science courses never get into the upper-levels, and yet I get to study biology- and anatomy-related subjects, which is what I wanted anyway. No calc knowledge required. Seems ideal, but those are very hard to get into, so I can only hope I'm accepted into one. I can afford one of those programs and I think I would do very well in them.


You could always come to NZ. I will hook you into the social pipeline... a lot of what you know is in high demand here. You could get residency.

But please don't do anything crazy. You have a lot more to offer than you realize I think.

Let's just say you guys are right, and I have some untapped skills or something. So what? Employers don't want to hear about it - you won't even get an interview - without that piece of paper. Sure, sheer luck or connections could possibly land me something, but... let's just say I've seen many intelligent people with a lot to offer become stuck working dead-end jobs because they couldn't afford college, or didn't go when they were younger and now don't have the time/resources. It's sad.


I just wanted to say one more thing... I disagree with what someone said here about it being pretentious of me wanting a certain type of job/lifestyle. Pretentious because I don't want to live paycheck to paycheck and deal with the mind-numbing anxiety of not having enough money for even basic things? If I supposedly have all these skills I could put to good use, shouldn't I be using them in something that would pay the bills with a little extra money for some small luxuries? That's called the middle class. I've been lower class all my life. If that's pretentious then so be it, but most people want to get out of the lower class once they've tasted it - it can be hell.

I do appreciate the feedback as usual though, even if I don't agree with some of it I appreciate the kindness and advice, so thank you.
 
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NathanielWingatePeaslee

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I don't have any hard evidence for this other than intuition, but I think overpopulation is probably a big factor as well, and possibly the two problems combined; more and more people applying to fewer and fewer jobs.

Well, look at the situation in Japan. Very high population density plus high expectations and pressure to succeed--especially on young men. You are your job.

Turns out suicide is the leading cause of death in men in Japan ages 20-44.

Japan Suicide Rate Still Among The World's Highest Due To Low Job Prospects

Suicide in Japan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Obviously, I'm not saying that means it's okay to off yourself because it's justified in some way. I will reiterate my personal belief that you will succeed at a career. I got into one of those radiology programs myself, in spite of a less than stellar GPA (going through college on chemo tends to have an adverse affect on grades--who knew!).

If you keep looking, and keep hacking at it, you will find your way sooner or later.

:)
 
^Thanks Nate. I had no idea you went through chemo, yikes, I'm sorry :/

About the radiology, though - when you went to school it may have been like that, but now apparently competition to get into just about any healthcare field is so high that you really need to have a high GPA to even have a shot. Unless of course you're getting a Bachelors in biology or chemistry or something - as long as you can get a C in all the courses you can get a degree in one of those.
 

laure15

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I used to feel the same way too. My family wanted me to be a doctor but a part of me don't want to (because I'm not good with people and I have SA and trust issues). But I took biology and chemistry courses in college nevertheless. I wasn't very conflicted and didn't put my wholehearted effort into those courses. I ended up dropping A&P and getting a C in Organic Chemistry. I changed my major because I knew I wasn't cut out to be in the medical field. Too bad I had already borrowed student loans and must repay them.

For some time I felt like I was a waste of space and air and thought I would be better off dead because then my parents won't have to waste money supporting me anymore. But now i found my passion in IT and things have started getting better for me, gradually.
 
^That's awesome that you figured out what you wanted to do! Congrats :)

From what I've heard, a C in organic chem isn't too bad considering how hard it is. I'd probably have to work my butt off just to earn a C, never mind an A.
 

AGR

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Okay yeah, someone is going to have to do the burger flipping, but how can you blame me that I don't want a life of that - after all I spent my whole life with a parent who worked those kinds of jobs and we never had any money, always lived in public housing. Money was always the main source of anxiety. I don't want a life like that. I've never been middle class and college would have been my way to change that.

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Its ok to want to find something that you like to do or something that pays more,sorry if it looked like it was directed at you,but I was just talking generally,I think making burgers is just as respectable as any job,people who also work in jobs like this also should definitely get more money,but it isnt the case......:idontknow:
 
depends what degree qualifications you were studying for as to its usefullness in getting a job/career....take me as a case in point. i got my degree way back in 2003. when i finished i was like "well bring on the finiancial freedom of landing a good paying job"...well since that time out of all the jobs ive had, maybe around 10-15, only 1 yes 1 was related to my degree and paid well, and that lasted for all of 3 months before my local govrnemnt decided to make that role redundant as part of a larger policy of axeing non critical govenment jobs to try and save our economy.
Here in australia the only degrees that you can sort of bank on as guranteeing a career are the ones like engineering, nursing, law etc, mine was a bachelor of science degree, utterly useless.


i used to say to myself when i was younger around late teens early 20's that if i reached the age of 30 and still had no prospects i would end it all. Will ive just turned 30, i'm still here, but i've got no job prospects, depressed and living with SAD, and suicide is looking more and more of an option everyday...im hanging in there day by day and waiting if things will turn around tho.

i have to disagree with the other suggestions about moving to places like australia or getting a partner to solve your problems. first of all they will only let you move here on a working visa which is for a limited amount of time anyway, or if you have family here, or you are marrying someone here, or have plenty of money. secondly i fail to see how having a partner will make you financially independant, unless you date someone who is well off and is prepared to financially support you for nothing other then love in return?
 
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