Long-Term Boyfriend has Social Phobia - Any Advice for Me?

I experience shyness and feel antisocial from time to time but I am not generally socially phobic. I am actually very social and outgoing and I’ve always had many strong friendships and relationships. I joined this site because my boyfriend of nearly 2 years suffers from social anxiety disorder. His SA is like a barrier between him and many of the goals he wants to achieve in his life. It is like he is in prison. This barrier has extended into our relationship. I try my best to understand what he is going through but I feel like the onus shouldn’t only be on the partner who doesn’t have SA. I think the challenge of understanding needs to go both ways. The same way I need to understand how hard it is for him to be in social situations, he needs to understand how hard it is for me to constantly have to sacrifice and give up social activities that make me happy. He says that he loves my family and likes my friends but still doesn’t want anything to do with them. How can we truly be intimate and share our lives when he is too phobic to participate in my life? His SA controls him and now his SA is controlling me. It isn’t fair. When I talk to him about it he either gets very sad/withdrawn or gets defensive. I am on this site to gain a deeper understanding of the diverse and complex manifestations of this disorder and also to glean some insights from individuals who struggle with SA. Does anyone have suggestions for someone who isn’t a SP but is a SP ally?
 

Hottie

Well-known member
Hi & welcome,

you will gain a deeper insight here, as we are all experts in our own lives!

There is really nothing you can do to help his anxiety. What you can do is what your doing already. And what this is, is supporting him thru it and being there for him.

Has he gotten any help for this?
 
ummm...I feel some guilt in that my dislike for socialising impacts on my partner a bit. Some things that might work...compromise, it shouldn't be all one way or the other; keep social events to a set time, its nice to know how long they will last rather than be dragged out - socialising drains the energy of introvert types; encourage reading self-help books, therapy etc; maybe allow them time alone, I go bonkers if I don't get this often; be ok about doing stuff just you and friends or by yourself; get them onto this site! :)
 

Deus_Ex_Lemur

Well-known member
He probably has SA, but sounds like AvPD too... its easy to get content and complacent even in misery. But you clearly care about him posting here, I hope he'd feel the same and be open to getting help and not so defensive. If he hasn't. You can't bare the whole burden of the relationship. He has to make sacrifices too, like, well... if he wants to be with you, do things that'd make him uncomfortable, facing some fears.

I have SP its hard. But... yeah =) He has an awesome girlfriend for you posting/trying understand more.
 
Hi,

Thanks for your message! You are very brave to come on this site.
No, he hasn't gotten any help. As you can imagine, he has anxiety about meeting a therapist. He says that if he ever changes it won't be because a therapist "told him what to do". He is very resistant to anyone that he perceives as an authority figure and I think he considers therapists to be "authorities". I would say that he is generally resistant to change and does not trust easily.

I am willing to do whatever I can to support him but sometimes I have to wonder: what about my needs? I have social needs that are not being met. Often, supporting him means that I have to live my life as if I were socially phobic (i.e. avoiding people) when I am not. It makes me sad sometimes.

Do you or does anyone out there have a significant other that doesn't have SA?

Thanks again!
 
Hi,

Thanks for your message! You are very brave to come on this site.
No, he hasn't gotten any help. As you can imagine, he has anxiety about meeting a therapist. He says that if he ever changes it won't be because a therapist "told him what to do". He is very resistant to anyone that he perceives as an authority figure and I think he considers therapists to be "authorities". I would say that he is generally resistant to change and does not trust easily.

I am willing to do whatever I can to support him but sometimes I have to wonder: what about my needs? I have social needs that are not being met. Often, supporting him means that I have to live my life as if I were socially phobic (i.e. avoiding people) when I am not. It makes me sad sometimes.

Do you or does anyone out there have a significant other that doesn't have SA?

Thanks again!

That's a very understandable point of view coming from a social phobic, but the thing about therapists is that you work with them, and not for them. They hold no authority what so ever. They often ask what you think of something before they continue discussing a possible solution. Of course, therapists are people too, and it differs per person.

They're there to offer insight and suggestions for progress. I was very much the same at first. I always said; ''Therapists can't help me. My mind too rigid. Too made up''. And the truth is, that I knew very little about myself and my mind. I opened up a little, most likely the hardest thing I ever had to do. In the end, you have to do it yourself with help of the therapist. Just talking isn't enough, and hiding from social situations isn't the answer either. It might make him feel safe, but he is (probably unknowingly) crippling himself.

With that said, I wouldn't force him to go in a social situations either. The thing about social phobia is that social gatherings feel very negative, and if the person isn't there for any other reason then wanting to be there (in terms of progress or otherwise) it'll remain a negative experience. But there is something you can do; encourage with positive reinforcement. Heart felt compliments regarding his personality. But remember, don't force. It has to become a positive experience (eventually).

But the above is all general information. The first step would be to let him see a therapist whom can elaborate clearly how all this works. Or, of course, try and let him join this forum as well. There's very little judgment here, and I've seen even the most phobics just relax and have some fun. It was great help for me personally, that much I can say.

It's important for him to at least do something. Even if it's something seemingly little. Even if it's just a 10 minute stroll over the street, if it's done in the name of progress it can help immensely in terms of changing the mind around. It starts with baby steps, and increases in difficulty at his own pace; ''Challenge > Success > Harder challenge > Success > and so on''. There's no set time limit other then possible personal deadlines.

Also try not to sympathize too much. It's not uncommon for a social phobic to be held back by self pity, I was a good 5 years of me life (if not longer), then again I was very young then, but still. Support and some sympathy is good, but don't overdo it.

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Also, don't forget about yourself. A big part in possible progress he makes is going to be motivation, and it'll be all the harder to be motivated for him if you're somehow unhappy. If you occasionally want to meet up with people, then you should be able to do so, with or without him. Maybe that sounds cold and insensitive, but by sitting at home missing out on things you want to do won't help him either. Find a balance and stick with it.
 

coyote

Well-known member
Hi, and welcome to the forum.

If he is anything like me (which it sounds like he is), i would bet that he really DOES want to be involved with your friends and family and your social life, but is scared of the potential situations, scared of the potential judging, etc.

It's easier to blow things off and avoid them than to face the scrutiny - even if it means hurting you. He doesn't mean to. He's just protecting himself the way he has learned how. Old habits are hard to break.

He'd rather blow you off or your friends/family and risk hurting your feelings than allow you to know how scared he is. Not because he doesn't care about you - on the contrary - he cares about you so much, that your opinion of him drives what he does, and he doesn't want you to think less of him for being scared.

Somehow you need to communicate with him how you're feeling without making it seem like you're judging him for his shortcomings - I know, it probably sounds impossible to do.

Maybe if you pointed him in the direction of this forum?
 
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Hottie

Well-known member
I cant really say much more then what has been said. But again a small reminder, that as much as you can help him, you cant help him either (hope that makes sence to you).

It would be a good idea for him to talk to a theripst/counsellor. It maybe really tough for him to attend but it will be better for him (and possibly you) in the long run. That is an area you can encourage him in - seeking professional help

good luck
 

missjesss

Banned
I think it's great that you have posted on here seeking advice and help for your bf!!

In reality though...he needs to want to change and get help otherwise neither of you will get anywhere and he will only frustrate you even more over time this disorder is very complex and hard for a person who does not suffer it to understand!

I have recovered a lot from this disorder although I still find meeting new people and going to parties to be difficult for me BUT I do go if someone really persists and wants me there ... honestly though what has really helped me is CBT which is done with a therapist and basically teaches you how to control your thoughts/feelings which lead to the anxiety and feelings of awkwardness

Another amazing therapy that has helped me is hypnotherapy and NLP it actually got rid of that horrible feeling of fear that I felt now ive just got little things to work on :)

Again he really needs to WANT to change for any kind of therapy to work ..he needs to accept himself completely as a person with the S.A and realize that S.A is not who he is it's just a disorder that has been learnt over the years so he can unlearn it but it will take time & persistence but I do believe you can get there in the end and really bring it down to a manageable level

If you would like any advice just pm me :)
 
Wow! I am truly grateful to all of you for your warm welcome, compassion and insightful replies. I'm sorry that I didn't reply sooner. I have had some problems with my internet access. You have all given me so much to think about. I really wish I had joined this sight sooner! I will try some of the techniques that you all suggested. I told my bf that I joined this sight but I didn't come right out and ask him to join it. His response was less than ideal. He said that he wasn't interested in joining but that he's glad I'm on here if it is helping me. Despite his negativity, I am really excited about the possibilities of being on this sight. I realize that I need support in understanding my role as a loved one of someone who has SA. It's nice joining a community of people who "get it"!
 
Hey, I was just wondering what motivated you guys to join this forum? Was this something a therapist reccomended? A friend? Did you motivate yourself? Just curious about the process/journey that led you to this site. Cheers.
 
Hey, I was just wondering what motivated you guys to join this forum? Was this something a therapist reccomended? A friend? Did you motivate yourself? Just curious about the process/journey that led you to this site. Cheers.

I came upon this site by accident. I joined because it was the only place I could talk with people who had an understanding of what my life's experiences and thoughts were like.

Just curious, did your boyfriend give you a reason why he did not want to join this site when you mentioned it to him?
 

hoddesdon

Well-known member
There have been others in your position on this site - lovesashyguy, helpme, neonchibi, lildreamer721. Perhaps reading their threads could also help.
 

missjesss

Banned
social phobic ally

You sound like a very kool gf and ur bf is very lucky to have you!

I joined this site back when I was struggling with s.a on a daily basis and I was quite hopeless I needed to find other ppl out there who were going through this and had some sort of understanding...I also went on here to find advice, and too see if anyone had overcome it.
 

Hottie

Well-known member
I personally joined becoz its good to have a place where you can talk to others who can relate and who understand how difficult everyday life is. It is also good to vent about things and get your worries and concerns out.
 
Hey, I was just wondering what motivated you guys to join this forum? Was this something a therapist reccomended? A friend? Did you motivate yourself? Just curious about the process/journey that led you to this site. Cheers.

I personally needed insight in my situation. My mother and grandmother had called a psychiatrist behind my back, and not really to help me with my condition as much as to ''get me a job''. I felt betrayed by that.

Them being my only allies at that time, I needed to look for understanding elsewhere. Then I did a Google search and ended up here. :3

Even though I'm working now (a testimony to how helpful this site and the people here are, by the way (mind you, in conjunction with therapy)) I stick around to further grow as a person. Meaning; learning more social skills, learning to think more positively, ect.
 

Aussie_Lad

Well-known member
OP: I personally think that you need to step away a little. By that I mean that you live your life and you let him lead his. Be there for each other and schedule some time for activities together and dates, but you really need to go out and do your own thing and leave him at home to do whatever it is that he wants to do. That way you are not forcing him to do something that he is not comfortable with and he is either happy about not being forced to do things, or he is unhappy in which case his loneliness when you are away will be the thing that causes him to take action to prevent feeling lonely again.
 
^ I have to agree with Aussie Lad. From your previous few posts it does seem like he's a little reluctant at this time. Sometimes the idea of change needs to be adjusted to, and pressuring him might lead to the opposite of the desired effect.

The thing is that he has to -want- to change. As long as he persists that mentality, it's important to live your life, like AL above said. Because if you keep holding his hand, while he doesn't show any actual will to dedicate to improvement, then you're enabling his reluctant behavior.

But like I said, sometimes it takes time. Live your life in the meanwhile. You can help him with the problem when he really needs it, but don't lose yourself in it.
 
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