I FREAKIN LOVE BRITNEY FRICKIN SPEARS
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Reholla
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Riiya said:
i think i just threw up in my mouth. how is taking a job where you are responsible for an entire country, millions of people's well-being, and LYING to them about an unjust war.. supposed to produce more sympathy than a confused girl who is controlled by other people, and who makes no promises other than to entertain people?
Being president actually takes intelligence and common sense. At least britney knows her capabilities and is good at what she does. Maybe George Bush should be an entertainer by using his folksy charm and ignorance to entertain people. Cause we all know how successful he is at being president...clearly.
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pinkputter
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Riiya said:
THATS WHY BRITNEY DIDNT RUN FOR PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES.... AND GEORGE BUSH SHOULDNT HAVE EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats also why Obama steered away Britney comparisons... theres nothing in common. Thats hysterical.. leave it to Bush supporters to actually ENCOURAGE the Britney / Bush comparisons. WOW just wow.
I mean now that you point it out, they are very similar! Never would have noticed before!
Hoth
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pinkputter said:
It takes a lot of intelligence and judgment to be smart enough to know that you're stupid and have no judgment. Anyhow Bush was just following the path laid out for him by others... if Britney were born into a political dynasty, she might be president.
The ironic thing about vilifying George W. Bush is that it's exactly what GWB would do if he were on the other side.
Two ways to view Bush:
1) A scheming evil genius who managed to manipulate his way into power and manipulate the world to go along with him, and lied us into war. This would put him in the category with Hitler, Stalin, Nixon, etc... clever people who set out for the purpose of doing immoral things.
2) A rich kid born into a political dynasty, who struggled deeply with the expectations heaped on him and became an alcoholic. He finally pulled his life back together, converted to fundamentalist christianity, believed he was talking to god, and decided it was his duty to fulfill everyone's expectations by becoming a superhero and saving the world. Although not mentally retarded or anything, he had a child-like mentality and a comic book black and white view of the world, making him an easy puppet for corporate interests and neo-cons like Dick Cheney, who combined their resources with Bush's name recognition to put him into power for their convenience. 9/11 was his big chance to feel he could heroically save the world from something (terrorism). Since he'd picked Saddam Hussein as a comic book villain in the "axis of evil" and he lacked the ability for self-analysis, he genuinely believed the unreliable biased evidence for war which he bullied his aides to collect. It wasn't his fault if 70% of the country was stupid enough to go along with him. He also genuinely believed that deregulation was good for the economy, and so on, because his puppet masters planted those ideas in his empty mind.
Given that all evidence I can find suggests him being stupid, I'd go with the latter view, which makes him tragic but not reprehensible. He wanted to do good and be a hero, he tried his best, but he had so many fatal flaws that his efforts were doomed and he was just a tool to advance the interests of others.
As for Britney Spears, I don't know much about her, but she seems to be another airhead who's used by others to make money (and gets a big cut herself). I guess she must have a talent of some sort though, since people like the music enough to buy it.
Neither Spears nor Bush seems worth major hatred since they aren't overtly trying to be evil, but I'd put them both in the "annoying representative of what's wrong with the world" category.
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dpr
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Hoth said:
I think this probably the first and last time I will ever say this, but... I don't think Bush is as stupid as you think he is.
It's all about the Benjamins with him. He's a dumb hick, but he knows what he's doing, financially. And so does his administration and all his crawford texas cronies.
dpr
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I apologize ahead of time for the derail.
I'm not gonna call Brtiney a great performer. She sucks at singing, and her songs are so formulaic (they all sound like they were written in five minutes, IMO) and the lyrics are just awful. But she CAN dance better than me so I guess I can't touch her there.
I think she has kind of become the "poster child" for celebrities to be hated. She's like the McDonalds or the WalMart of celebrities, if you know what I mean. She's become a symbol of what sucks about the music industry. In a way, I feel sorry for her. Because the Kanyes and the Avrils should have that hate spread on them, but it's like Britney gets most of it, cuz, well... I dunno... she's the richest? Maybe that's why.
People talk about her all the time, but that's only because we are told she is important by "the news" and paparazzi. It's pretty shameless how well-documented her nervous breakdown was. It's like they wanted her to go all the way and kill herself, so they'd have a great story, another death they could stand around and photograph like Princess Di and all that bystander apathy bullshit.
Anyway, I've noticed a lot of people who diss pop stars always talk about how recording studios use effects on their voices to help them stay on key and make them sound better and that without these relatively new tools, they wouldn't be able to be considered "talented" and are therefore "fake."
Well this is true, I can totally hear the auto-tune on the voices of Britney, Christina, Avril, etc. But what a lot of people either don't know or forget is that studios do that with EVERY artist. There are some exceptions like say Radiohead and Bjork and others who use effects to enhance their singing (instead of using it to mask how bad they are), but this is likely because artists like them are producers in their own right and are a bit more involved in the production side of their own albums. But pretty much all artists you hear on the radio (Metallica, Foo Fighters, Kanye, all that shit) they ALL have auto-tune and other effects on their voices and instruments. And even acts like Bjork and Radiohead will loop (i.e. digitally repeat) guitar tracks and other instrument tracks, which could also be considered "fake" or "cheating" or whatever you want to call it.
In fact there is an effect used in most professional recording software known as "Quantize." Say the drummer from Slipknot goes in the stuido and plays his drum part and the engineer records it for a track on a song. If there are parts that aren't "on time" with the rest of the band cuz he got sloppy, the engineer will press the "Quantize" button and it makes the whole drum track in time with the rest of the tracks. He can drag and drop notes within a guitar solo just as easily as they can drag and drop notes on Avril's vocal tracks to keep her on key, and they do!
So unless it's some indie band that always records live off the floor, pretty much all other bands who are signed to major labels, from Red Hot Chili Peppers to 50 Cent are just as "fake" (in a recording/production sense) as Britney is, or they at least have the ability to be.
But yeah, she's still an idiot.
I'm not gonna call Brtiney a great performer. She sucks at singing, and her songs are so formulaic (they all sound like they were written in five minutes, IMO) and the lyrics are just awful. But she CAN dance better than me so I guess I can't touch her there.
I think she has kind of become the "poster child" for celebrities to be hated. She's like the McDonalds or the WalMart of celebrities, if you know what I mean. She's become a symbol of what sucks about the music industry. In a way, I feel sorry for her. Because the Kanyes and the Avrils should have that hate spread on them, but it's like Britney gets most of it, cuz, well... I dunno... she's the richest? Maybe that's why.
People talk about her all the time, but that's only because we are told she is important by "the news" and paparazzi. It's pretty shameless how well-documented her nervous breakdown was. It's like they wanted her to go all the way and kill herself, so they'd have a great story, another death they could stand around and photograph like Princess Di and all that bystander apathy bullshit.
Anyway, I've noticed a lot of people who diss pop stars always talk about how recording studios use effects on their voices to help them stay on key and make them sound better and that without these relatively new tools, they wouldn't be able to be considered "talented" and are therefore "fake."
Well this is true, I can totally hear the auto-tune on the voices of Britney, Christina, Avril, etc. But what a lot of people either don't know or forget is that studios do that with EVERY artist. There are some exceptions like say Radiohead and Bjork and others who use effects to enhance their singing (instead of using it to mask how bad they are), but this is likely because artists like them are producers in their own right and are a bit more involved in the production side of their own albums. But pretty much all artists you hear on the radio (Metallica, Foo Fighters, Kanye, all that shit) they ALL have auto-tune and other effects on their voices and instruments. And even acts like Bjork and Radiohead will loop (i.e. digitally repeat) guitar tracks and other instrument tracks, which could also be considered "fake" or "cheating" or whatever you want to call it.
In fact there is an effect used in most professional recording software known as "Quantize." Say the drummer from Slipknot goes in the stuido and plays his drum part and the engineer records it for a track on a song. If there are parts that aren't "on time" with the rest of the band cuz he got sloppy, the engineer will press the "Quantize" button and it makes the whole drum track in time with the rest of the tracks. He can drag and drop notes within a guitar solo just as easily as they can drag and drop notes on Avril's vocal tracks to keep her on key, and they do!
So unless it's some indie band that always records live off the floor, pretty much all other bands who are signed to major labels, from Red Hot Chili Peppers to 50 Cent are just as "fake" (in a recording/production sense) as Britney is, or they at least have the ability to be.
But yeah, she's still an idiot.
theblank
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually LIKE some of Brittney Spears songs and have purchased 13 of them on Itunes. What's worse, is as recent as TONIGHT I found myself singing one of those songs to myself at work (Toy Soldier). I love it when she "sings baby." For most people it wouldn't work, but it does for her. I think that's where her talent lies for the most part.
On the flip side, I cannot stand the never ending tabloid coverage of her. It makes me sad that we (as a society) need to know her every move and support this absurdity by actually buying the tabloids. It's just ridiculous.
On the flip side, I cannot stand the never ending tabloid coverage of her. It makes me sad that we (as a society) need to know her every move and support this absurdity by actually buying the tabloids. It's just ridiculous.
lunarskye
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I honestly never in my life like B spears. I've always thought she couldn't sing [still do] and shouldn't be as famous as she is. However I do like some of "her" songs [sometimes, toxic, overprotected] In her docu. though I did feel really bad for her when she was like "they hear me talking but they aren't really listening" [or w.e] and she was tearing up and said she's lonely. Cuz I kinda get it. She has all those people around her all the time yet she feels lonely. Thats how I feel with my family I tell them I hate how my life is and I really feel like I have S/P but they don't get it or listen.
But Im not like in love with her or a fan :roll:
But Im not like in love with her or a fan :roll:
riverbelow
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omg i am utterly obsessed with her, but i have always been a britney fan. but really i love her little sister even more, she's so outspoken like she does what she wants. i wish i could be like that...
marrguitar
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britney spears is merely an opiate. the music she makes, along with most of the music these days, has no intellectual value. it isnt art and understanding it requires virtually no thinking.
Hoth
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Giving people pleasure is a difficult art. She's apparently very skilled at it, though I can't personally imagine how people find it pleasurable. If it were easy, you'd be making the millions too.
He was born into an extremely wealthy family, so he's had very good financial advisors from day one. He knows to take their advice. I don't see any way to measure what decisions he might make without them. It's no trick making money when you start off with a ton of it.
I'm not saying he's retarded though. Bush is probably as intelligent as the average American, and his simplified good vs. evil outlook is typical of America too. It's just that putting an average American in charge of the country is a scarily bad idea.
dpr said:
He was born into an extremely wealthy family, so he's had very good financial advisors from day one. He knows to take their advice. I don't see any way to measure what decisions he might make without them. It's no trick making money when you start off with a ton of it.
I'm not saying he's retarded though. Bush is probably as intelligent as the average American, and his simplified good vs. evil outlook is typical of America too. It's just that putting an average American in charge of the country is a scarily bad idea.
dpr
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Hoth said:
I disagree. There are a lot of people who have the talent and know-how to make a hit song. It's really not rocket science. But I think for a lot of them, their artistic integrity is worth more than all the money in the world. That's why their music is so much better than that pop shit, cuz they take their music seriously.
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Hoth said:
Oh of course. Actually, putting ANY republican in charge of a country is a bad idea, IMO haha...
But yeah, it's not just him making these decisions. His administration knows how to make money, that's for sure.
