Feeling Scrutinized in Public / Useless Without a Relationship

Conspark

New member
I'm going to try to write this in one sitting, so apologies in advance if it becomes long and ramble-y. I'm hoping all of this is still 100% relevant to the social phobia theme; I know the first part will be, but the second part might be questionable. :c

I'm a 23 year old dude who just moved to the Seattle area in July 2013. I was in a “serious” relationship with someone who lived in the area (together nine months, knew her online for a year and a half) who dumped me just a few days after I arrived here. I didn't move here for her alone; I came with my family for better job prospects, new place, new people, etc. Just a bit of background for reference.

In short, I feel like my thoughts, feelings, and emotions are this crazy cluster. I'll give you an example: about two weeks ago, I decided to take a morning walk to a local coffee shop. I had my hair up (spiked; my preferred hairstyle and I don't feel good unless I do it), my nice leather jacket... all around I looked decent, felt pretty good about it. I walked in there, and for some reason I suddenly felt very tense. When that happens, my already “meh” hearing goes south, and I had to say “what?” to the barista several times for different things and felt super awkward doing it. Then I glanced behind me and noticed two rather attractive young ladies about my age at a table. I didn't make eye contact with either of them.

For some reason, though, that tripped something in me and I started to feel very uncomfortable. Like they were watching me behind my back in a judgemental way. Like everyone in that place might be watching and judging every little motion I made. Ridiculous things were going through my head, such, “oh, look how awkwardly he took that receipt from the barista! Oh, what a weird way to grab that cup sleeve from the tray... and doesn't he look kind of funny, too?” Suffice it to say, I powerwalked out of there once I had my Americano.

This is something I've dealt with for a long time, and it's a strange hyper-self-consciousness where I feel like ANY little thing I could be doing, any expression I make, any thing I say is being judged and mocked and ridiculed. I make it sound worse than it usually is (the coffee shop was a more extreme example – I'd never really gotten it quite that bad before), but it's often in the back of my head when I'm out in public.

My other problem is that I feel like every single idea, goal, or motivation that I have is in some way pointed toward that big magical word that we guys like to use: “girlfriend”. I don't feel happy or content when I'm single. I never feel attractive or like the guy anyone would want to be with. That said, I've been talking to a lovely girl on a dating website lately. In short, on paper, we have a crapton of things in common and she's attractive. So this morning, about a week after we began talking, I looked at some of the questions she's answered in their survey thingy, and it seems like she's big into hooking up with guys outside of relationships because “sex is important to [her]”. Big deal, none of my business, right? Lots of people do that, even I've done it, and yet I've been fixated on this woman for the past few days and reading that crushed me a bit and made me feel jealous. Unreasonably, stupidly jealous. Not... dangerously jealous, of course, but just... the idea that she's “with someone else” bothers me and it has no reason to. I somehow latched onto this vague hope that we might really hit it off. I guess there's the possibility, but for the time being, we're still just talking.

I could probably type a whole hell of a lot more but I think that covers the two biggest things I struggle with. Is there anyone out there who's dealing with similar things and has found a good way to get through it? For me, the only thing that ever consistently lifts my spirits is music, but sometimes even that fails.

Sorry for the long one. Input appreciated.
 

jellzzz

Well-known member
This is something I've dealt with for a long time, and it's a strange hyper-self-consciousness where I feel like ANY little thing I could be doing, any expression I make, any thing I say is being judged and mocked and ridiculed. I make it sound worse than it usually is (the coffee shop was a more extreme example – I'd never really gotten it quite that bad before), but it's often in the back of my head when I'm out in public.

i know how you feel. i just hate eating in public places because of this. when you start doing it, you cant really stop it, and before you know it you are analizing every god damn thing you do. its pretty anoying.

and about the jealousy, yeah, i have that to. i think it is because i am so insucure about myself.
i am in a relationship though, but still, im jealous almost al the time.
an example:
im skyping with by boyfriend every day from 8 too 10 in the evening. (he lives far away so i cant see him that much)
today he is a little later because he is helping a friend who has a hart time.
totaly fine, right?
well, i feel really jealous about it, and i hate myself for it too.

but i think this is a problem that lots of people with social anxiety have. we are just al little more desperate and insecure about ourselfs.
 

Kiwong

Well-known member
I have felt the same way since high school. I start to avoid petrol stations, chemists, supermarkets because of it. Anywhere were my anxiety and awkwardness begins to be known.
 

MikeyC

Well-known member
Welcome, Conspark. You seem to be a pretty suave guy in general, just from the very little I know about you, so I doubt the two girls at the coffee shop were judging you in any way, but I know how you feel about it seeming like that's happening when your thoughts are already clouded.

As for being single, it doesn't sound like it's going to be for long. Good on you for chatting to this girl on the dating website. As for sex, well, who knows what she really means? My advice is to continue talking to her and go on a date or two. Maybe she isn't like that. Or maybe sex is important to her and she wants to do it a lot with you. ;)

You sound really date-able, mate. I wouldn't worry about being single because it sounds like you'll have some chances, especially in a larger city. :)
 

Conspark

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You sound really date-able, mate. I wouldn't worry about being single because it sounds like you'll have some chances, especially in a larger city. :)

It's funny you mention all of this, because last night (I work the night shift) I asked the outgoing cashier out. She turned me down in pretty much the nicest way possible, but that was the first time I'd ever asked anyone out like that. She was gorgeous. O.O I still felt really good about having tried, though. Free, almost. More confident.

I'm trying to hang onto that feeling as much as I can. I don't want to slip back into my ridiculous worst case scenario fantasies that normally stop me from doing something like that. Like, "what if she starts laughing at me or something?" I probably will end up back in that old mentality the next time I get an opportunity like that one (this one was WIIIDE open - she said hi to me first). I'm not exactly "suave" or "cool" or "alluring" or anything like that. :p

I wish I could train myself to fight those negative thoughts more effectively, because in my experience it only takes one randomly popping into my head for it to snowball into paralysis.

jellzzz: It's hard to stop once it starts. Preventing it from happening at all is the best way to go in my experience. I agree with the insecurity idea, though. I know I'm very insecure about just about everything about (about about about about) myself, particularly my looks. So it's frustrating to know that I CAN be a phenomenal boyfriend, it's just getting to that stage that's a struggle.

Kiwong: Do you still avoid those places? Does it help to have a friend with you who can keep your mind off of it?
 

MikeyC

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It's funny you mention all of this, because last night (I work the night shift) I asked the outgoing cashier out. She turned me down in pretty much the nicest way possible, but that was the first time I'd ever asked anyone out like that. She was gorgeous. O.O I still felt really good about having tried, though. Free, almost. More confident.

I'm trying to hang onto that feeling as much as I can. I don't want to slip back into my ridiculous worst case scenario fantasies that normally stop me from doing something like that. Like, "what if she starts laughing at me or something?" I probably will end up back in that old mentality the next time I get an opportunity like that one (this one was WIIIDE open - she said hi to me first). I'm not exactly "suave" or "cool" or "alluring" or anything like that. :p
That's great that you did that, mate. :) At least she was nice about letting you down and not too rude, otherwise that would've crushed you. Hopefully that makes you more confident to keep trying.
 
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