Decision/university

thor01

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Similar to another thread subject, but this is my case.

Anyone find it extra hard to decide some things?

Anyway, By about now I need to decide if i'm going to try starting a uni course (would b going from home, not living there), or to defer it for a year and then see.

For the past 3 years Ive gone to just college. A muisc one. Although I didnt like alot of it, and didn't really have propper friends for most of of it, I liked having something like that in the background, well especially now looking back.

This would be my only reason for trying uni. I DON'T desire a degree, or a well paid job hah. And I mean that. Its doing music for fun hats important to me, everything else is just work to me so I would settle for a small that doesn't require loads of skills job. However I wonder if with uni being a higher level, this would be a wrong reason to go, and if I should defer it and then see in a year. I find it hard to see myself finishing it if I did go. I found the last thing I did difficult to keep up with in terms of work, and that wasn't a degree. But I like the exuse of being in education. Its just I wonder if I have the wrong idea with this and that it is more than that, at uni level.

Before, I have said to myself I would not do uni, and would just focus on my own music. I am tempted to stick with this, and work on my music for a year and then see. But then its like I realise I wont really have much human contct. Or atleast very limited. This is OK with me in one way, but not so much in another. But again, I dont know if that alone would be a good enough reason to do it either. However, my reasons for human contact are abit phony too. Because I only want that part in the hope that I'd find people I like to play music with, or have interest from girls, which I didnt get the past 3 years. But this could be just the same anyway, since I am still me, and don't want to change anyway. I am fine with being shy, even if that means no girls hah. I wish I could redo college again at the level I did before, but with different people, and just have it in the background, you know hah. But I wonder if uni would be too hard and involved to have as a background thing. It would be a music course BTW.

But its as if the idea of uni, go against me as a person in some way, and what I set out to do. But then sometimes I dont like the idea of wishing I was doing it, after 2 weeks in hah. I know if defered it though, I could know that if that happened, that I will still be able to go if I want, just have to wait.
 
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InfraRecon

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I was in the actual same position as you. I just did two years in a regular college. However I never even considered uni. I have always hated my educational life and couldn't be happier to leave it all behind.
Instead I am just focusing on my band/ music and planning to just get a small, **** job. Unfortunately I finished college a couple of months ago and my SA has meant that I've seen about 2 of my friends, barely left the house at all and, as a result, have made no progress to get a job.
I sure as hell hope that soon I'm able to make a living from playing music as it's the only thing in the world where I'm 100% super-confident and feel like it's where I belong.
My advice to you would be that if music is your passion, definitely try focusing on that for a year. If it goes well, continue to do it - like you say, you do have the option to still go to uni if your music year doesn't work out. Good luck!
 

Panther

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hey im hopefully going to be going to uni next year and im hoping that because everyone will be new to eachother and everyone will be nervous we can make friends easily plus all the booze should make it easier. At the moment i have no social life and no friends really and i cant see that improving in the next year living in the same town. So youve got to think if your not going to have much human contact for a year will you get really lonely? because i know i am and it could be good to have a fresh start. However you definitely shouldnt just go just for the sake of it or if it will make you unhappy and youll just drop out, but if your passionate about music then maybe youll enjoy it? maybe having a year to decide would be good as long as you can deal with the lack of human contact that you said. Anyway good luck whatever you do :)
 

thor01

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Ah, thanks very much, both.

Especially nice to hear you in the exact same position Infrarecon. Even in the fact that if I were to not go for the year, I'd also be seeing about 2 people, hopefully hah.

And yes, the SA will prbably go up. But in one way it doesn't bother me and in a way it does.

I don't drink. And if I did go, I wouldnt intend to "go out" to do that, either, TBH.

I know Panther, thats another thing, that it is music, and miht have elements in it that I enjoy. Like actually playing music, with people, and doing compositions. However, it should also contain stuff I dont like, stuff that makes music into work, like.....work haha. I'm not so good at those group type assignments even.

And if the course involved presentations....id be dead hah

If I didn't go yet, I'd probabaly be able to start at first, working for my mum. I wouldnt get much but I dont care and it'd be something, and wouldnt take up all my time at all.

I guess I kind of have a worry about becoming too comfotable, if thats possible. Do you know wha I mean? Like have always had something that stresses me. Sometimes its as if I'm so used to that structure that the "real" world seems scarier in a way. Like people whove been in prison a long time, and cant leave, even though they hate it hah.

But would you say that, university is different anyway, in that, its more "mature". And someone like myself who still has shyness and other things going on would find that difficult. (I don't feel like an adult in most ways. And don't even desire to)

I have hated most of my educational life, at the tme of doing it. Its only clinging to an idea that it COULD be better that keeps me half in it, in my head.

But thankyou for the advise.

And when I say my own music, ATM, this is mostly by myself. This might not get me very far. It'd be nice to have people to do it live with. But then again I might no even find suitable people for that there, who knows.
But I enjoy doing my own muisc, at least atm anyway.

I guess I coul think of the year out as just an extended holiday, and therefore kind of have mind still in the same mode.
Its just right now I have the feeling of doing either being the wrong option. Its nice when youre intuitin tells yu something. This is kind of mixed up. And stuff like this actually makes m fee quite ill in a way. Like a big weight on me. Tryin to please all aspects of myself, and being too hard on myself.
If I waited the year, I'd have to remind myself tat time doesn't matter, and that it doesn't really matter when I choose to do it, as I'll still just be me.
 
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Panther

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yeah i know what you mean about the too comfortable thing, like if you dont have something that panics you once in a while it can lead to it being a much bigger thing when something does come around, and you want stuff to happen but then you dont because you dont want the anxiety and stuff. Thats what im dreading aswell the presentations, i honestly dont know what ill do because at the moment i just skip stuff like that and dont go in but i wont be abe to then. My hope was that if i went to university maybe id become more confident, i really hope so. But yeah theres nothing wrong with taking out a year, but would you mind about the tuition fee thing or not?
 

thor01

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Yep thats it!

Would you imagine most courses at that level do contain pesentations? My lst college thing had one. But like you I skipped it.
I just don't imagine being hesitant about it, on a uni course, going down well. I seem to imagine everyone being passed all that and being able to deal with it all and bing fuly engaged it in hah.

Yeah! I know I won't be more confident in that way. And TBH I don't desire to be anyway. Its just not me!

And yeah, thanks again!

So many people mention the fees as a problem next year. But I don't think it would effect me any more than it would this time. And maybe neither would affect me at all. Not beause I have money haha. But because, will never be earning enough money to be paying it back. You only sart paying it back when you CAN, with a certain wage. After 30 years it is cancelled weather or not you paid back. The idea I guess is that after a degree you get a "good" job. But this would not be what I want anyway. The only way I'd want to earn that would be somehow getting it by doing what I like to do hah.
So I don't think it would affect me if I did ever go.
 
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Panther

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yeah the reason i want to go is because the career i want kinda needs it but its not a job thats going to earn me a lot of money anyway so its not for the money but also its a way for me to move away and hopefully make friends etc but you doing your music sounds good maybe that will be more beneficial to you than going to uni and yeah i didnt see why people wereso concerned about the fees either but i heard everyones like rushing in this year so they dont have to have it but it shouldnt actually make a difference really and if everyones rushing in this year maybe it will be better going next year, if you do decide to go. as for the earning more money thing aswell my brother wnt to uni but hes been working in asda for two years so maybe it actually doesnt.
 
Similar to another thread subject, but this is my case.

Anyone find it extra hard to decide some things?

Anyway, By about now I need to decide if i'm going to try starting a uni course (would b going from home, not living there), or to defer it for a year and then see.

For the past 3 years Ive gone to just college. A muisc one. Although I didnt like alot of it, and didn't really have propper friends for most of of it, I liked having something like that in the background, well especially now looking back.

This would be my only reason for trying uni. I DON'T desire a degree, or a well paid job hah. And I mean that. Its doing music for fun hats important to me, everything else is just work to me so I would settle for a small that doesn't require loads of skills job. However I wonder if with uni being a higher level, this would be a wrong reason to go, and if I should defer it and then see in a year. I find it hard to see myself finishing it if I did go. I found the last thing I did difficult to keep up with in terms of work, and that wasn't a degree. But I like the exuse of being in education. Its just I wonder if I have the wrong idea with this and that it is more than that, at uni level.

Before, I have said to myself I would not do uni, and would just focus on my own music. I am tempted to stick with this, and work on my music for a year and then see. But then its like I realise I wont really have much human contct. Or atleast very limited. This is OK with me in one way, but not so much in another. But again, I dont know if that alone would be a good enough reason to do it either. However, my reasons for human contact are abit phony too. Because I only want that part in the hope that I'd find people I like to play music with, or have interest from girls, which I didnt get the past 3 years. But this could be just the same anyway, since I am still me, and don't want to change anyway. I am fine with being shy, even if that means no girls hah. I wish I could redo college again at the level I did before, but with different people, and just have it in the background, you know hah. But I wonder if uni would be too hard and involved to have as a background thing. It would be a music course BTW.

But its as if the idea of uni, go against me as a person in some way, and what I set out to do. But then sometimes I dont like the idea of wishing I was doing it, after 2 weeks in hah. I know if defered it though, I could know that if that happened, that I will still be able to go if I want, just have to wait.

I would definitely recommend going to uni. We call it college in the US, but I stayed home for it instead of dorming there. One of the biggest mistakes of my life. it has been so much harder for me to meet people. i would absolutely recommend staying at school. and who knows, maybe you'll find some people who can be in a band with you ;-)
 

thor01

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No, I wouldn't be staying there. Because then it takes over, and I would be basically living for university, in a town I dont want to live in. Here at home I have the things I want to get on with like my drums and tape recorder hah. So ruling that out, would it still be as worth it in your opinion?

I knowI might find them. But is going for that a good reason if I might not andle the other stuff so well?
 

thor01

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See the social interaction only at uni is still worth it yes but you really have to try. I put myself out there, put myself in social groups that i didn't feel comfortable at first, people liked me because I made the effort even though Im sure they all saw me as a nervous wreck haha but then I made some good friends.

There's two types of shy people i found at uni, theres people like me who genuinely want to socialise but feel awkward when they're in a social situation and then there's the flat out nerds who choose to ignore everyone and live in a bubble and get by like that.

I tried to befriend these 'nerds' haha cos 1 was in my class but he just was really stuck up and didnt seem shy at all, just valued his own opinion and shot down everyone else's and he was not liked by anyone.

Sorry im rambling haha but what im trying to say is that if you try and your polite and you speak up when people ask questions then you will seem interesting and despite the anxiety, people will see that you mean well and you will make friends.

Uni is worth it if you make it worth it. Go to the busy student canteen and bars after lectures and grab a bite to eat with your peers. I used to do this and i had some panic attacks there yeh but only in the beginning, now i can walk through there with my head held high. If you want to beat this anxiety, you have to face your fears one step at a time.

You might decide that you live one year at home and during that year you meet some friends that you are comfortable with then for 2nd year you can share a house, keep your options open and above all, enjoy it!

We are only young once ;)

Well, I disagree on the last comment for me personally because I feel age is a state of mind. And I feel since Ive missed out so much on the normal things most would've already experienced by now, that I'm still in that exact mode in a way. And it will stay that way if I choose. If other people make you feel old and you let yourself feel old, your body may well become...old haha.
So if I were to do it next year, anyway, I'd still be exactly the same as I am now, and could still probabaly even pass as an 18 year old. Not that that matters, I'm just saying haha.
And I will never choose to follow the usual life path and think, oh, my number is officialy above this or that, i must get arried, and have children, and have more responsibilities. I'll always be the same in my mind.

But anyway, even if I were to go along with that comment, to you why would spending it in a place like that mean you were making the most of it, compared to doing anything else you enjoyed? Just out of intrest.

I'd probabaly not be the best at making a big effort without being spoken to, I'd imagine, unless it felt right. I don't know I'm still very split about it all.
I wouldnt see myself ever wanting to live there, because as I said, the things I want to get on with and do with my time are here. Like my drum and recording stuff.
 
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thor01

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Yeah, thanks isolation.

Well I have to decide today and let them know if I wanna defer it. I honestly feel I cant fully decide, and therefore will defer it if that is still the case.

Even though its not importnant in the big scheme of things, to me, I HATE these decisions because I completley split up on it. I think still having traces of depersonalization doesn't help, because I just cant fully think what I want in this situation. Or what I relly want isn't a possible option. I just feel like either decision is wrong.
As I just want a replacement for what Ive done already (music college/A levels), and a chance to find other musicians, I just wonder if the other stuff that comes with uni, will be too much, like the work, and group work . Infact after thinking for so long I can barley process in my head the pros and cons and stuff. I just wanna hybernate hah.
 

thor01

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I don't feel the need to go to uni to "find myself". I know what me is, and want to keep it. Ive had enough feelings of being not myself (part of depersonalization I think) and the thought of anything trying to "change me", I hate. I'd rather the stay the same as boring as it sounds.

I couldn't decide, so in the email I said I'll defer it.
Because technically, thats giving more time to decide. Just happens to be a "year". hah.

Do I feel good about this? Not really. But I didn't feel really good about either option in a way. I just dont feel capable of deciding sometimes because I see things in both sides.

I don't feel it needs to be a big thing. It might just feel that way because Ive been trying to decide. Remember I have no desire for an actual degree, or well paid job, and so would be in the exact same position if I finished a "degree".
 
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thor01

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Ah, interesting!

And did it come every time you smokedit and not go away for a long time?

Well, mines kind of at stage where you can live with it just about hah, but theres certain elements of it that hang around and come out at times. Mainly for me, deep thughts, in a way that isn useful to me, as opposed to my usual deep thinking hah. And not feeling myself and stuff.

Right now, mine seems pretty bad because of that decision, and the weight of it is still there and I dont fee realy at peace with it.
 

A86

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This is just my opinion. But I think you should go. By going you will get a better grasp of youself in that environment. Its always easier to to make an informed decision later to leave if you need, rather than the reverse scenario.
 

thor01

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This is just my opinion. But I think you should go. By going you will get a better grasp of youself in that environment. Its always easier to to make an informed decision later to leave if you need, rather than the reverse scenario.

Thanks for your opinion.

The only thing is yesterda I emailed to say I'll defer it. Because tht was when I had to apparantly. So its abit late, Im assuming even if i did change my mind. Well not that I evn decided at all

defering was partly due to not being able to decide.

I suppose I still have the place if it is deffered. Where as if i did go and quit, i wouldnt. But yeah.


Actually now as an update Ive been given till Monday now to decide hah
 
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