redlady said:P.S - Issa if you read this HELLO - my mm service is crap
I have heard that you can die if you take ecstasy and anti-depressants.
Q.
Hello. There has been a lot of talk and discussion about the use of illegal drugs with anti-depressants and benzodiazepines. I am on both of the above with quite large amounts of both, as well as other drugs. What is the general effect of pot and ecstasy and these drugs? I have heard that you can die if you take ecstasy and anti-depressants but then I researched it further and found out it was only from MAOI's not SSRI's. If you could clarify this for me and explain the effects that would be great. Thanks.
A.
The older MAOI antidepressants (e.g. parnate) interact with many common foods and medications, and can produce quite dangerous side effects. More recent MAOIs (e.g. aurorix) are a lot safer. Likewise, the newer SSRI antidepressants are less likely to interact dangerously with other drugs or foods. None of these are "safe" to combine with benzos, although it is very common for doctors to prescribe this way. That is, a benzodiazepam for anxiety or sleep, in combination with an antidepressant. So long as the doses are adjusted and the patient is kept monitored, it is pretty safe short-term therapy.
Can you die from taking pot and antidepressants? Probably not: but using pot while you on antidepressants is known to cause a mental illness very much like schizophrenia (both interfere with the levels of a brain chemical called dopamine, which is implicated in schizophrenia and some other mental illnesses). Pot will also increase the sedative effect of benzos, which could theoretically lead to a fatal overdose, though I know of no cases where this has been proven to be the cause of death.
Ecstasy is another matter. Even if you can be certain that the substance is pure and you know the dose, antidepressants and MDMA are a potentially lethal combination. Not just MOAIs; all antidepressants.
Ecstasy a very potent agonist (booster) of the brain chemical, seretonin (one of the monoamines are the "MO" in MOAI). Seretonin is the brain neurotransmitter boosted by antidepressants. Combining ecstasy and antidepressant drugs can cause the medical condition called "Seretonin Syndrome". It not only can happen, it has and does happen!
The symptoms of the Seretonin Syndrome are: euphoria, drowsiness, sustained rapid eye movement, over-reaction of the reflexes, rapid muscle contraction and relaxation in the ankle causing abnormal movements of the foot, clumsiness, restlessness, feeling drunk and dizzy, muscle contraction and relaxation in the jaw, sweating, intoxication, muscle twitching, rigidity, high body temperature, mental changes like confusion and over-excitement (a "happy drunk" state), shivering, diarrhea, loss of consciousness and death.
What is the point of asking such a question?tetchyboi said:Hi all i just wanna ask the Question..
Can XTC use and antidepresents cause damage
i was told that its less harmfull then Alcohol but just wanna check in..
It might be harder to control in the end than it seems at first. :?freakalmightee said:Be responsible and...
.... if you do drugs, don't let drugs do you.
Me too.freakalmightee said:discussion of illegal drugs if forbidden on the spw forums (but i dont want you to die)
Isn't that exactly what I did? :?worrydoll said:i didnt think that, i thought it was a good question. my brother struggles with the exact same issue. anyway even if someone posts something because they need attention cant you empathise with that?
But you didn't pay him any attention by posting something for him so far.worrydoll said:i can, it comes via the excessive loneliness. x
Maybe your question should have been more specific..tetchyboi said:Wow thanx to every one who replied and yes i do suffer panic dissorder and social phobia.
And no i was not trying to get attention i did look it up on the net but didnt get the answers i was looking for and i mainly wanted to ask fellow anxiety people what they think as i value there opinion more then some web page
This site's chatroom?tetchyboi said:Ps... I still cant get into chat room
Welcome..tetchyboi said:hey well i have decided thanx to everones comments and my friends that i will not be taking X while on my antidepresents
So just wanna say a BIG THANX TO ALL!!
Nie said:Isn't that exactly what I did? :?worrydoll said:i didnt think that, i thought it was a good question. my brother struggles with the exact same issue. anyway even if someone posts something because they need attention cant you empathise with that?
I mean, discussion of illegal drugs is forbidden on spw.
And you could have easily looked that up on wiki or whatever..
So maybe it wouldn't have been good of me to write much about it.
Besides I was wondering if it wasn't quite an obvious question anyway.
I felt he was rather seeking attention or help than an actual answer to his question.
That's why you talk to people instead of looking it up on a machine(?)..
I never said I didn't understand if he wants attention.
I did answer his question and try to help him.
But you didn't pay him any attention by posting something for him so far.worrydoll said:i can, it comes via the excessive loneliness. x
Why didn't you try to reply to his question when you thought it was good..
Been looking for an answer yourself?
If so I hope the topic was helpful to you.
Maybe your question should have been more specific..tetchyboi said:Wow thanx to every one who replied and yes i do suffer panic dissorder and social phobia.
And no i was not trying to get attention i did look it up on the net but didnt get the answers i was looking for and i mainly wanted to ask fellow anxiety people what they think as i value there opinion more then some web page
This site's chatroom?tetchyboi said:Ps... I still cant get into chat room
Welcome..tetchyboi said:hey well i have decided thanx to everones comments and my friends that i will not be taking X while on my antidepresents
So just wanna say a BIG THANX TO ALL!!
I also wouldn't take ecstasy again after you're back to somewhat normal someday.
It could ruin all the hard work again.
Nice decision nevertheless.
Yes, even quite often.freakalmightee said:jinkies Nie sometimes pills can help.
Sure someone needs some pills.Primus said:jesus christ Nie, chill out. i think someone needs some pills. let people say what they want without critizing them. and yes you did critize, dont reply saying " i didnt critize anyone i just stated what i thought "
?scyth said:nie...dont you think your being a bit harsh? Theres nothing wrong with asking a question like that if anything hes the right thing by asking about the dangers of something instead of just doing it. Why is the discussion of drugs forbidden how are we supposed to help each other when they ban topics that could of be some help to a person. sort it out spw!
Yea, me too.worrydoll said:sometimes i dont post because i have social phobia but i read the site a lot and have much empathy.