Assholes bring out the best in me.

[Sure_whynot]

When someone says/does something stupid and it pisses me off, or I strongly disagree with it, then I become ridiculously motivated to "knock them down a peg". Even if I only witness it happen, and have no prior involvement in any way.

My question is... Is this motivation and "thirst" to even-up the odds a bad thing?

I thrive when people tell me that I cant do things, act arrogantly and over-estimate themselves, and when people bully other people.

Is this a self destructive personality trait to act upon?

I have to be the arrogant asshole (that i naturally am, but almost always hide) to put the "bully" in his place, does the situation justify my actions? Am I as bad as the "bully"?

Let me stress the "arrogant asshole" part. Most of the time it lays dormant inside me, but when its "awoken" I guarantee you that im the biggest Prick/most amazing guy you'll ever meet.

 

[Sure_whynot]

No i dont think its a good thing. It just shows your kinda on the same level as a bully. If you were better than him you wouldnt need to do that.. even up things or knock someone down a peg.

Let me clear this up: " knock someone down a peg, or even things up" is not a pun for Physically harming someone. I ment mentally, aka verbally, cutting them down like they do to other people.

Dose that change anything? =]

& Would you still think that way If I was the person defending you?

Either way, thanks for the responce =]

 

[Danfalc]

My question is... Is this motivation and "thirst" to even-up the odds a bad thing?

It sounds to me just like your assertive when you come to when you think someone is being bullied or wronged.Ther can definatley be a thin line between being assertive and being an ass lol.I think we all struggle with finding a good balance.

But i think its better to stand up for what you beleive in and maybe get somthing wrong a few times or take it too far by accident than to never stand up for yourself.

 

[Sure_whynot]

It sounds to me just like your assertive when you come to when you think someone is being bullied or wronged.Ther can definatley be a thin line between being assertive and being an ass lol.I think we all struggle with finding a good balance.

But i think its better to stand up for what you beleive in and maybe get somthing wrong a few times or take it too far by accident than to never stand up for yourself.

Thank you, thats very true.

Thats kinda what I thought too, I just dont want to end up being angry all the time.

I asked a person for advice, on here, few days ago (SickJoke, he's a good guy.) & he sent me a video that really got me thinking. It had one line that really stuck with me; "I love everyone, because the second I start hating someone they own me." Which is very true, they make me negative, they steal my energy, they make me act differently.

I guess I just need to find the balance, because I'd never let people walk all over me. But people make mistakes, and deserve 2nd chances.

 

[nezul]

interestingly enough i would love to be able to do what you do....


i dont mean that in a im-so-pathetic-and-weak-i-cant-stand-up-for-myself sorta way, im surprisingly much stronger than most of the people who bully me and those who are equal match wouldnt dare touch me.

now a thing i discoverd, there is a line or ratio you could say (ill explain this as best i can)

the ratio goes take crap from other people: hurt people who screw with you

bullies or at least most of them are in the hurt people who screw with you section but way up the line to "i like to hurt people" it makes me feel confident.

normal people are about half way in the take crap from other people, they wont take crap for very long but they will still take crap because usually its not worth yelling/trying to hurt the otehr person.

so you gotta remember when u knock down bullies, when is it worth taking crap and when should you act to knock people down.

if you keep following a line that works like the hurt/knock down people who screw with you line, you could end up in the knock down people who i dont like and this could lead to actaully violence.

this is what im uneasy about most the time, does taking action do good or can it turn you into the very thing you tried to stop?

thats what you gotta look out for, follow a path for to long and you will end up along it.

i hope thats understandable enough, i hope it helps

 

[Joolin]

Something that I've realized over the years about being depressed is that it doesn't make me feel sad so much as numb. Depression basically just wipes away all my emotions. Therefore, even being angry can feel good, just in being that anger is a feeling. I get kind of the same way - the adrenaline of being angry is like a drug - I get super energized, my mind moves way faster, and I get a massive boost in self-esteem, so I end up being kind of an arrogant asshole. My jury's still out on whether or not it's actually a bad thing - I hate being a dick but it's one of the few things that makes me feel alive.

I've always had a temper a mile thick, but ever since I stopped taking anti-depressants (Citalopram to be specific), I've noticed myself getting worked up a lot easier. At first I thought this was a good thing, as I actually started having passion for things, but now I'm starting to get annoyed at myself. I guess you really have to be careful what you wish for - I wished for real human emotions and Murphy's Law delivered.

 

[Sure_whynot]

Something that I've realized over the years about being depressed is that it doesn't make me feel sad so much as numb. Depression basically just wipes away all my emotions. Therefore, even being angry can feel good, just in being that anger is a feeling. I get kind of the same way - the adrenaline of being angry is like a drug - I get super energized, my mind moves way faster, and I get a massive boost in self-esteem, so I end up being kind of an arrogant asshole. My jury's still out on whether or not it's actually a bad thing - I hate being a dick but it's one of the few things that makes me feel alive.

I've always had a temper a mile thick, but ever since I stopped taking anti-depressants (Citalopram to be specific), I've noticed myself getting worked up a lot easier. At first I thought this was a good thing, as I actually started having passion for things, but now I'm starting to get annoyed at myself. I guess you really have to be careful what you wish for - I wished for real human emotions and Murphy's Law delivered.

lol... Ironically enough my last name's Murphy.

And that is a very good point, I take a.d.d pills and I feel numb & apathetic constantly as well. To feel hate or anger is refreshing because its SOMETHING rather then nothing.

 

[lurknomore]

I don't think I feel emotions very strongly, and anger is one of the ones I experience/feel the least. I just never get angry. Or I have to really be pushed before I will.

 

[Sure_whynot]

I don't think I feel emotions very strongly, and anger is one of the ones I experience/feel the least. I just never get angry. Or I have to really be pushed before I will.

Get pissed off at something/someone. Its a rush like no other, especially when you can justify your motives. haha

 

[aizome]

i used to have the same issue, until i learnt the meaning of 'righteousness' - it helped me to turn the viciousness into a kind of firm, disarming logic, i can still 'knock people down a peg' like you say, but the end result leaves them genuinely questioning themselves instead of just feeling butthurt that somebody gave them a taste of their own medicine.


you can still kick ass as the good guy.

 

[lurknomore]

Get pissed off at something/someone. Its a rush like no other, especially when you can justify your motives. haha

I used to get angry when I was a kid, but maybe I just always expressed it the wrong way, because I was a bully to my younger siblings. Then when I hit teen years I decided I didn't want to be violent anymore, so I stopped beating them up, and in order to do that, I had to stop feeling anger. So now, at best I just get extremely annoyed with assholes or anyone who frustrates me. I guess in my mind anger=beating someone up, so I just don't go there.

 

[antipop621]

Get pissed off at something/someone. Its a rush like no other, especially when you can justify your motives. haha

Took the words right out of my mouth.

I love losing it on someone's ass, especially when its someone I hate. It hasn't happened in a really long time though. The thing that sets me off more than anything in the world is when people raise their voice at me...I just explode immediately.

 

[nezul]

hmmm....i dont think im that badly damaged (mentally).

oddly, it will take ALOT and i mean ALOT to make me angry, you would have to kick me in the balls to get me to stike back but by god it is a reserved blow. i have never EVA hit someone in full anger or hate, disincluding when i was 11.

but hitting somone with a justified motive? i truly think there is none, the result would be me hitting them, they hit me back, probably kicking (dishonorable bastards, fight with some god dam honour) and i would probably hit them back, and it would go on, or i would hit them, it would do nothing and i would get utterly crushed, im very untrustworthy of myself.

tell me if its jsut me but

when ever you hit somone has it ever been in the face? if so (never in my case) did u not feel how utterly wrong it feels?



the best motive you have for hitting someone, mind you not with full strength or with a fist, is simply just to show them they cant walk over you.

 

[no1]

when someone is an asshole to me sometimes I give them a taste of their own medicine except maybe worse and I dont like to think of myself as an asshole just.. doing something to even things up.

The other thing you said though that assholes motivate you to do your best... perhaps it is fueled out of vengeance not necessarily a sense of justice, you have to be careful with that. If it is then more power to you.

 

[Sure_whynot]

hmmm....i dont think im that badly damaged (mentally).

oddly, it will take ALOT and i mean ALOT to make me angry, you would have to kick me in the balls to get me to stike back but by god it is a reserved blow. i have never EVA hit someone in full anger or hate, disincluding when i was 11.

but hitting somone with a justified motive? i truly think there is none, the result would be me hitting them, they hit me back, probably kicking (dishonorable bastards, fight with some god dam honour) and i would probably hit them back, and it would go on, or i would hit them, it would do nothing and i would get utterly crushed, im very untrustworthy of myself.

tell me if its jsut me but

when ever you hit somone has it ever been in the face? if so (never in my case) did u not feel how utterly wrong it feels?



the best motive you have for hitting someone, mind you not with full strength or with a fist, is simply just to show them they cant walk over you.

Yes, but only after I took a hit to the face first. It felt amazingly satisfying because it was justified in my mind as defending someone & teaching a bully a lesson.

I've only been in 2 real fights in my whole life, and both were when I was 16-17. I've been blessed with the gift of speech, so 99% of the time I just physically intervene (to non-violently separate people) & then work my magic.

Dont get me wrong, I work out & am a good sized athletic guy... so when I split things up, intimidation mixed with my talking is almost always enough.

when someone is an asshole to me sometimes I give them a taste of their own medicine except maybe worse and I dont like to think of myself as an asshole just.. doing something to even things up.

The other thing you said though that assholes motivate you to do your best... perhaps it is fueled out of vengeance not necessarily a sense of justice, you have to be careful with that. If it is then more power to you.

For the first part, thats how I see myself as well.
An "avenger" I guess...

For the second part, I think that may be part of my problem =/... Can you/anyone explain your 2nd paragraph more thoroughly? =]

 

[JA2007]

I don't know if retaliating is wrong, but it sure gives satisfaction to the bully. It seems like the bully is trying to get the victim to totally lose it and then they know that they got what they wanted. I find that bullies have no fire to throw if I shrug off their nasty comments.

 

[Sure_whynot]

I don't know if retaliating is wrong, but it sure gives satisfaction to the bully. It seems like the bully is trying to get the victim to totally lose it and then they know that they got what they wanted. I find that bullies have no fire to throw if I shrug off their nasty comments.

But that's no fun at all, I'd much rather drag their names through the mud. & Destroy their false scene of self-confidence.

 

[blackomen]

When someone says/does something stupid and it pisses me off, or I strongly disagree with it, then I become ridiculously motivated to "knock them down a peg". Even if I only witness it happen, and have no prior involvement in any way.

My question is... Is this motivation and "thirst" to even-up the odds a bad thing?

I thrive when people tell me that I cant do things, act arrogantly and over-estimate themselves, and when people bully other people.

Is this a self destructive personality trait to act upon?

I have to be the arrogant asshole (that i naturally am, but almost always hide) to put the "bully" in his place, does the situation justify my actions? Am I as bad as the "bully"?

Let me stress the "arrogant asshole" part. Most of the time it lays dormant inside me, but when its "awoken" I guarantee you that im the biggest Prick/most amazing guy you'll ever meet.

The world sure could use more ppl like you

 

[Sure_whynot]

The world sure could use more ppl like you

Thank you very much!
=]

 

[Satine]

But that's no fun at all, I'd much rather drag their names through the mud. & Destroy their false scene of self-confidence.

Salt the earth, as it were?