aspergers

chris420

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I worry about this :/ my mother tried to convince me I had it, but a counsellor I saw said I definitely didn't. I can recognize some of the traits for sure, I do often take things literally, not get jokes etc. But the obsessive habits, preoccupation with numbers etc. I don't have.

Who knows? Would it really help me if I knew?
 

phoenix1

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It's my belief that a very large percentage of people with social anxiety are somewhere on the high functioning end of the autistic spectrum which includes aspergers and even add and adhd.

The symptoms of aspergers listed are just that - symptoms. There are so many different ways you can manifest aspergers that diagnosis is uncommon and inaccurate as well.

Having delt with aspergers most of my life, I believe what determines aspergers is fundamentally a filtering problem. It's harder for people with aspergers to make generalizations off raw stimuli.

That's why social interaction is so overwhelming and difficult. In small talk, what people say verbally means virtually nothing. Its all about their eye contact, their posture, their tone and their gestures. People with aspergers have difficulty because we usually just focus on what they are saying verbally and we get overwhelmed with everything else. We can't make the generalization by subconsciously putting all the social pieces together like normal people.

Ask yourself how easy do you get overwhelmed with new stimuli? Do you like routine because its comforting? Do you get obsessed with certain things to exclusion of everything else? Do you have trouble learning new things quickly especially when you are shown only part of the full picture? Do you feel like your emotions are more 'raw' then others. If so, it might be worthwhile to do some research on it.
 

Lea

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It's my belief that a very large percentage of people with social anxiety are somewhere on the high functioning end of the autistic spectrum which includes aspergers and even add and adhd.

The symptoms of aspergers listed are just that - symptoms. There are so many different ways you can manifest aspergers that diagnosis is uncommon and inaccurate as well.

Having delt with aspergers most of my life, I believe what determines aspergers is fundamentally a filtering problem. It's harder for people with aspergers to make generalizations off raw stimuli.

That's why social interaction is so overwhelming and difficult. In small talk, what people say verbally means virtually nothing. Its all about their eye contact, their posture, their tone and their gestures. People with aspergers have difficulty because we usually just focus on what they are saying verbally and we get overwhelmed with everything else. We can't make the generalization by subconsciously putting all the social pieces together like normal people.

Ask yourself how easy do you get overwhelmed with new stimuli? Do you like routine because its comforting? Do you get obsessed with certain things to exclusion of everything else? Do you have trouble learning new things quickly especially when you are shown only part of the full picture? Do you feel like your emotions are more 'raw' then others. If so, it might be worthwhile to do some research on it.

I have exactly this problem, I can appear quite normal until people start joking around and just talking rubbish. I don´t know how to react. Common misunderstanding of asperger is, they don´t understand joke or metaphors, which I perfectly do and like humour. But what they are talking about 1. doesn´t make sense, 2. isn´t even really funny. I get no pleasure from it because I lack the software in processing nonverbal cues which small talk is all about and nothing else. My only weapon to deal with it is intellect, in order not to appear completely stupid I try to process that rubbish by brain to know what to say. I can do with it a bit, but very soon it gets too much, I get overwhelmed by all that nonverbal and verbal stimuli, my brain shuts down and I´m just staring failing to react. Then people think I am somewhere out, in my dreams... And I feel completely stupid, like a retard. (Which I guess I´m not, sometimes I think on the contrary, I understand things which other people don´t, learn quite easily etc., sometimes I feel I process the information like computer). That´s why I don´t go to parties and avoid social situations. It´s not really fear, even if I didn´t fear it, my brain is not built properly enough to deal with it. Esp. when I´m in social situations all day, it makes me terribly drained, tired and I have to go to sleep early. Perhaps you can cure people who are only shy or have any other disorders, but this is an inborn disorder of brain, which I know is not curable. (I even feel it). They prescribed me Risperdal which I guess will only sedate me down (which I don´t even need), but can´t change that structure of my brain.
One more thing I found is, this disorder is often caused by exposure of mother to "terratogenes" in early pregrancy. Sorry I don´t know exactly what terratogenes are, I guess some chemicals. Which my mother probably was.
And sorry if I was writing too much about myself I felt like I need to get it off my chest.
 

lyricalliaisons

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A therapist told me about a year ago that I seem to have Asperger's. I haven't gotten a diagnosis and haven't even mentioned it to my psychiatrist because I don't want to be called a hypochondriac. I'm about 90% certain that I have either Asperger's, PDD-NOS (Pervasive Developmental Disorder-Not Otherwise Specified), or HFA (High Functioning Autism). Both are highly related & not much different than Asperger's. I had a lot of developmental disorders which would actually rule out Asperger's and leave one of the other two.

Everything about Asperger's fits & makes me make sense to myself. Far more than social phobia/anxiety does. It addresses only part of my problems, whereas Asperger's, PDD-NOS, & HFA addresses pretty much all. I want more than anything to get tested, but since I'm afraid to bring it up, it's probably not going to happen for a while.
 

Doomed2Die

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It's not too much Lea, i'm pretty sure every other person with it can say the same. I can.

It's... big. Where as SA is one thing, aspergers is being born a social alien. Our brain simply cannot understand things other peoples can naturally.

It's depressing, and likely why I developed SA along with agoraphobia, on the plus side people with AS can be rather entertaining for other people. Heh.
 

rado31

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when something is not important to me, i m not processing words literally .

I guess that behind every SA is something - in most cases - Asperger
Remeber that it is "spectrum" condtion (combo of many neurologucal conditions) and
i've been told that medicines can have dual effects. Even achocol is tricky to me these days.

About Vaccines things - i heard a recent news on CNN that there is denied information about connection between them and AS.... Not that i believe CNN tho..just to mention

EDIT:
I asked around a bit more on Aspergers in some group about Autism . Here is what someone (i guess some kind of professional told me) :
If you do have Asperger's, please note that one fairly common feature
is an atypical response to meds like anti-depressants - they may not
work at all, may have significant adverse or even reverse effects, may
show useful effects at low doses, etc..

One thing that can help is stop trying to cope with things the NT way,
to meet NT expectations - for example if you find social interactions
draining, then reduce them (as far as practical) to a level which is
comfortable *for you*, and ignore those who tell you that you'd feel
better if you'd just "get out more and meet people", or whatever.

[NT = Neuro(logically) Typical - aka ordinary people, those with
standard neurological "wiring"]
 
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