are women genetically hardwired to break my heart...

[no1]

Some people hold the view that women are genetically hardwired to go for the "bad boys" while the good men are trampled on and don't get anything. Unless the women needs the good man, only until she feels like settling down will she go for the good guy, and only for the security, she might still be f*cking the jerk guy who gets her drunk and sloppy and plays with her feelings to make her think she likes him.

what do you all think? are women totally hardwired for destruction? are men also the same? maybe not men. but women are the ones who seem to be the deal breakers here.

 

[no1]

whatever. I think there is a conspiracy going on. That women are being misled to like the wrong men, and vice versa ie the wrong men are being led to like the wrong women.

and there we have humanity being led towards their ultimate demise.

 

[no1]

yea I know...

I've got another question tho.. why do the majority of women don't want to settle down or even have a relationship these days? they just wanna go and f*ck around and say that sex is not the same as a relationship, etc. If a guy wants a relationship he is probably considered weak, feminine, etc. and girls talk so much about "freedom" and all, like it's a female rights movement, and evolution prefers promiscuity..

so that maybe when they do want to settle down they're all worn and god knows what else. talk about saving it for the right person. that's in the past now I guess...

It's all about "you're never going to find the right one, so just 'have fun'", which pretty much sets you up for never finding the right one. Most women seem to be scared of the word love. Mention it and they are scared of it.

well.. these are all images I get from a lot of women. maybe they are delusional but I dont think so. This is kinda like a subliminal image being communicated by the media, by men and women like it is a secret, only the real men can handle it, bla bla. The image I get of the men women like these days are men who don't even have to try too hard to get what they want because it just comes to them. Guys who don't fall "in love". Guys who are "players" or ones who go to clubs, and pick up a different woman every time they go and that's like what, every weekend. Guys who can't stay with one woman at a time, can't commit, etc. Guys who have hardened their hearts, or are "rough". Hold the view that all women are just animals and just sex objects, and they like to entertain these thoughts. Guys who have had more than their share of women. It's like.. experience with many women are the only criteria perhaps. Or those who can just jump from woman to woman without getting "attatched" or start to care about them. They might entertain their fantasies with these kinds of guys. Guys that can be mean, and selfish, guys who have had numerous women. It's about how many women they've been with already, regardless if they deserve all that many women or not. Thugs, gangsters, wicked men, hoodlums.

 

[recluse]

I'm becoming a woman hater day by day...Don't get me wrong i'm not evil at all, but whenever i hear about my workmates failed relationships failing because their girlfriends ran off with someone ''better'' i loose faith.

I'm starting to believe that men are much more straightforward...Atleast women know that most men are after sex.

I think i'll be better off spending my life with a cat o'r dog. Atleast then i know i'll be safe.

 

[no1]

I'm happy with 1 woman tho. Can any woman say that? Or does she just think she is stuck with him? perhaps even cheating on her "mate" behind his back.

I dont know about men either. They could be "players" as well.

But I'm speaking of my own experience.. I've never been with a woman, my sights would be on one woman who is right for me, and I would hope to not think about any other.

The fact is women are always being told that they have to choose only the right mate, and believe that her mate is supposed to be the right one because of darwinism, or evolution, or survivalism. And then she is told what is the right mate. She can be confused, or misled. She expects to find an image of "perfection". According to who? What is "perfection"?

 

[faithnomore]

I just think that for guys like us (even though we really need women) they dont want us for some reason.

It Sucks

 

[coriander2008]

All those things that you've said could be applied to certain men and to certain women.

 

[licorice]

It does seem that morals and values have gone right down the tubes especially when it comes to relationships and its getting worse...I myself find it very disheartening to hear all these married people/couples that take each other for granted and who have just become so complacent..But theres 2 sides to that coin as some men(not all)are also looking for perfection in a woman with all the media influence...I find it amusing to see some not so appealing men putting down women that dont look like societies idea of perfection with the perfect face,hair,body..What a joke,they need to take a long look in the mirror...Sorry for digressing...Some of these ridiculous shows they have on tv here in the US are embarrassing and they make women look bad..

 

[weak]

From what I gather, the majority of people on this board don't have much experience with women, so this probably isn't the best place to direct your questions if it's a male's perspective you're interested in.

Your best bet would be to get this book and read it. It'll answer all the questions you've asked in this thread and then some, and it'll do a better job answering them than anyone here ever could.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(book_on_Pickup_Artists)

Love it or hate it, the guy who wrote this book knows his shit and it's specifically designed for those who are confused and frustrated when it comes to women. Ignore the chauvinism and just read it for the sake of better understanding how women think and what women want. It's dead on and it works.

 

[no1]

u know what... I've read that stuff. The pick up artist stuff, the game, all that stuff. When I was younger I signed up on the sosuave.com forums. Who would've thought, the majority of women DO respond to jerk characteristics, and cockiness, etc. I tried it and it did kind of work.

Though it's not for me most of the time. I can be fun around women and stuff but I can't view women like an object. I can't treat them like sh*t. Chauvanism,yeah. Maybe a little misogyny and stereotypes and both men and women.

IT may be true, that a majority of women respond to this. I find it wrong though and I don't like it.

Oh well I guess I hate nature then. Or the fact that women actually fall for this kind of crap, and that men take advantage of women's supposed "weaknesses".

I think their basic ideas are that women are attracted to a combination of cocky and funny. They respond to how you make them feel, as if they have no brains to think for themselves and they just go by on feelings and impulse. Act like a jerk but don't "be" and jerk.. I guess. Taking women off the "pedestal" and think of them as perhaps lower than men. Manipulate them.

Well.. perhaps a guy can put this stuff to good use and not betray or become manipulative pricks. Basically "how to be the Player" that all women complain about yet are still "attracted" to because... they get that idea from someone else.

 

[lettypagb]

I can't imagine not even to save my life how women would like jerks , But I know when I get better I'll like them and I'll be like them... And will laugh of girls who can't be like that. Like that. Há.

 

[no1]

what, when you get better you will like jerks?

the point is.. all this is pretty much telling you is to act like one of those "bad boys", or be confident or whatever. which I understand but I guess women can't tell the difference between a good man and a sorry one.

 

[weak]

u know what... I've read that stuff. The pick up artist stuff, the game, all that stuff. When I was younger I signed up on the sosuave.com forums. Who would've thought, the majority of women DO respond to jerk characteristics, and cockiness, etc. I tried it and it did kind of work.

Though it's not for me most of the time. I can be fun around women and stuff but I can't view women like an object. I can't treat them like sh*t. Chauvanism,yeah. Maybe a little misogyny and stereotypes and both men and women.

IT may be true, that a majority of women respond to this. I find it wrong though and I don't like it.

Oh well I guess I hate nature then. Or the fact that women actually fall for this kind of crap, and that men take advantage of women's supposed "weaknesses".

I think their basic ideas are that women are attracted to a combination of cocky and funny. They respond to how you make them feel, as if they have no brains to think for themselves and they just go by on feelings and impulse. Act like a jerk but don't "be" and jerk.. I guess. Taking women off the "pedestal" and think of them as perhaps lower than men. Manipulate them.

Well.. perhaps a guy can put this stuff to good use and not betray or become manipulative pricks. Basically "how to be the Player" that all women complain about yet are still "attracted" to because... they get that idea from someone else.

There's a lot of components to the whole PUA thing. The whole 'elitist asshole' approach is just one aspect of it.

The best thing those books teach is DHV - demonstrating high value. Shows you how to subtly build yourself up and keep women from thinking the worst of you. It's especially key if you have SA, as it helps you mask your insecurities and lack of a social life - which are 2 big turn offs.