toothpastekisses
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ghost_train
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The last thing I would want to do is sound preachy, but I would definitely keep a watch on that. Alcohol is a physically and psychologically addictive drug. When used as a day-to-day coping mechanism, rather than say, an occasional means of 'release', it is very threatening in its capacity for addiction.
The problem is, especially with alcohol, addiction always starts as psychological- and therefore with an accompanying feeling that 'I can stop at any time', and eventually gets a physically-addictive hold. Alcohol is one of the few (maybe two- along with heroin?) drugs whose withdrawal effects can cause actual physical harm (not to mention the physical harm it can cause during addiction)
Anyway, kind of getting ahead of ourselves- that's not what we're dealing with- please let's keep it that way.
If you think about it logically- what is the light at the end of the tunnel to which alcohol is your aid? At what point will you be content enough to say "yeah, alcohol has really helped me get to where I am, but I have to part ways with it now"? I'm not trying to say that that definitely wouldn't happen or that continuing to use it as a coping mechanism at this time will definitely result in addiction, but I'm just saying be careful.
The fact that it is already causing you concern, though, is a positive sign. fearing where the road may lead keeps you from falling asleep at the wheel...
The problem is, especially with alcohol, addiction always starts as psychological- and therefore with an accompanying feeling that 'I can stop at any time', and eventually gets a physically-addictive hold. Alcohol is one of the few (maybe two- along with heroin?) drugs whose withdrawal effects can cause actual physical harm (not to mention the physical harm it can cause during addiction)
Anyway, kind of getting ahead of ourselves- that's not what we're dealing with- please let's keep it that way.
If you think about it logically- what is the light at the end of the tunnel to which alcohol is your aid? At what point will you be content enough to say "yeah, alcohol has really helped me get to where I am, but I have to part ways with it now"? I'm not trying to say that that definitely wouldn't happen or that continuing to use it as a coping mechanism at this time will definitely result in addiction, but I'm just saying be careful.
The fact that it is already causing you concern, though, is a positive sign. fearing where the road may lead keeps you from falling asleep at the wheel...
ghost_train said:
True that, read up on delerium tremens, if that doesn't scare you away from habitual alcohol use nothing will. Not to mention that your liver will slowly die and be replaced by scar tissue (cirrhosis). Alcohol is pretty much the worst thing you can get addicted to.
SilentType
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Yeah man alcohol is the devil, not an anxiety medication. All the people that die from each year (directly or indirectly) is enough to keep the alcohol from touching my lips. Think about what you're saying...alcohol is poison...do you want to medicate yourself with poison? lol Didn't think so...
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livingnsilence
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same here. I notice a very slight change at tippsy sometimes but it's so slight I don't usually notice when I'm drinking. I have to be quiet drunk before I feel comfortable enought to have fun but the anxiety is still there. It's not untill I reach the blackout/barfing level that my anxiety is gone completely(at least I think it's gone completely judging by the stories I hear about me since I can't remember) But I still drink, and usually drink enough to blackout half of the time I do. I know I already have a mental addiction, i've had it for a couple years now, however, I'm very good at controling it from becoming a physical addiction.Raveno said:
samk
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I don't like alcohol that much
drinking socially is great but that doesn't happen very much i wish it did
in a way i can't stand the taste or the even the feeling doesn't help much
i wish i could be an alcoholic or at least love alcohol then i would have that to help in the suffering that is life and drink away my sadness
drinking socially is great but that doesn't happen very much i wish it did
in a way i can't stand the taste or the even the feeling doesn't help much
i wish i could be an alcoholic or at least love alcohol then i would have that to help in the suffering that is life and drink away my sadness
I have to agree. The taste is disgusting and I hate having to piss every few minutes. Hangovers are a load of shit. And there's a narrow range between being drunk enough to be social and being blackout/barfing drunk. Which is not fun.
Other GABAergics tend to be a lot more enjoyable, like carisoprodol and barbiturates. But for anxiety, nothing beats entering a benzo-induced zombie state. Not that you should be doing those all the time, either. But they're a lot easier on your body, and there are less side-effects. And it's actually possible to drive unless you pop like 5 of them.
prop215
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Alcohol just helps me not give a damn about not being social. I'm 19 and have been drinking since 14. I can only imagine what my liver must look like.
I even used to pop some 'bars' and take some shots of tequila b4 school...sad i know but I just wanted to try anything to make me a little social. Also it made time fly by so fast.
I even used to pop some 'bars' and take some shots of tequila b4 school...sad i know but I just wanted to try anything to make me a little social. Also it made time fly by so fast.
de
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yeah i have been drinking regularly since i was 13 it used to be only when i was going out to the pubon a friday and saturday sometimes sunday but i have found that over the last few years i drink at home mainly because i dont go out.
it takes a lot of drink for me to reach the stage where i can chat and be comfortable around people(fine line between that and blacking out) and i usually get panic attacks the morning after and throughout the day because im worried about the stuff i said and did but thats only on the rare occasions that i go out
but seeing as i stay in all the time it provides a welcome releif from an over active mind and gives my self esteem a boost to the point where if only for a while i can say fuck the world i dont need those wankers
it takes a lot of drink for me to reach the stage where i can chat and be comfortable around people(fine line between that and blacking out) and i usually get panic attacks the morning after and throughout the day because im worried about the stuff i said and did but thats only on the rare occasions that i go out
but seeing as i stay in all the time it provides a welcome releif from an over active mind and gives my self esteem a boost to the point where if only for a while i can say fuck the world i dont need those wankers
recluse
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It wouldn't bother me the least bit if alcohol was banned. I do enjoy a drink but i try to minimize how much i drink. It all depends on the situation, i mean where i live there is no temptation to drink but say in a wedding party or something then the temptation is there, but i can definately live without alcohol. Using alcohol or drugs to help conquer will lead down a slippery slope to addiction and you do not want that on top of what you already suffer from.
bretters
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woah, well 3 years ago i was where you are now. Drank every day till i got hooked, it became a major part of my life.
In the end i went to a alcohol abuse therapy.... altho im not 100% off the drink, i dont feel the need it for every day living.
Its tempting to see something as a 'saving grace' and something that 'helps', a safety blanket. Im sure you know that in the end it does more harm than good.
just remember theres programs out there for the under 20s...ones that dont require group meetings!!
good luck
In the end i went to a alcohol abuse therapy.... altho im not 100% off the drink, i dont feel the need it for every day living.
Its tempting to see something as a 'saving grace' and something that 'helps', a safety blanket. Im sure you know that in the end it does more harm than good.
just remember theres programs out there for the under 20s...ones that dont require group meetings!!
good luck
4seasons
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It doesn't help me be more social, It just makes me not care. I have a story about how I learned that the hard way.
My friend was having some people over to his because his parents where out of town. It was only going to be like 7 of us and all people I know pretty well so i wasn't to worried. We went to the liquor store and i got this stuff called "FAX" or maybe "PHAX" I'm not sure, but I got 4 and each one was 10% alcohol but they where only not even double the size of a regular beer(regular beer is about 4.5%). The night went on and all the sudden these girls knock on the door, so of course my anxiety went from nothing to crazy in about 10 seconds flat. How did I think I could solve this problem? I drank those "beers" as fast as I could I got the last 3 down in about 20 minutes meaning I drank all of them in like 40 minutes...bad idea. I thought if i drank and got drunk enough I could be like everyone else, relaxed and talkative around these girls. Well I ended up throwing up on myself and running to the door to throw up some more, on the way throwing up in one of these girls fucking shoes haha. I just left and they all went on with their night....now, what did this get me? I was just humiliated in front of all my friends and a bunch of strangers. I don't understand how alcohol makes a difference for people. I always thought I wasn't drink enough but nope...I just suck and being social.
My friend was having some people over to his because his parents where out of town. It was only going to be like 7 of us and all people I know pretty well so i wasn't to worried. We went to the liquor store and i got this stuff called "FAX" or maybe "PHAX" I'm not sure, but I got 4 and each one was 10% alcohol but they where only not even double the size of a regular beer(regular beer is about 4.5%). The night went on and all the sudden these girls knock on the door, so of course my anxiety went from nothing to crazy in about 10 seconds flat. How did I think I could solve this problem? I drank those "beers" as fast as I could I got the last 3 down in about 20 minutes meaning I drank all of them in like 40 minutes...bad idea. I thought if i drank and got drunk enough I could be like everyone else, relaxed and talkative around these girls. Well I ended up throwing up on myself and running to the door to throw up some more, on the way throwing up in one of these girls fucking shoes haha. I just left and they all went on with their night....now, what did this get me? I was just humiliated in front of all my friends and a bunch of strangers. I don't understand how alcohol makes a difference for people. I always thought I wasn't drink enough but nope...I just suck and being social.
SilentType
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Nice story. Its a real nice representation of what long term use will cause in the long run as well. Just draw out the story over 5 years and you have the same thing as any alcoholic's reason they stopped drinking.
Quitting drinking for the sake of the liver is another story lol. Just makes it even more stupid...
And no i don't drink. Ever.
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Quitting drinking for the sake of the liver is another story lol. Just makes it even more stupid...
And no i don't drink. Ever.
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tweakedreality
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Yup, I'm guilty, DEF wouldn't advise it but it helps me and my doc hates RX'n benzo's so, that leaves me with pretty much no choice.
Well plus I'm having to move back in with my parents because I cant hold a job because of the severe SA, just about to lose my g/f as of tonight and a number of other things but anyways it's def not a good idea, but I guess I dont make too many of those.
It's amazing what SA and bad depression will make you do in life...
-Chris
Well plus I'm having to move back in with my parents because I cant hold a job because of the severe SA, just about to lose my g/f as of tonight and a number of other things but anyways it's def not a good idea, but I guess I dont make too many of those.
It's amazing what SA and bad depression will make you do in life...
-Chris