I feel unreal and fake

recluse

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I feel fake all the time. I put on this act that I am friendly and happy in front of my workmates and I feel shitty because I'm not really that friendly. I'm also sure that I am Bi-polar because of my mood shifts. Yesterday morning I was really hyper and I was talking really fast, because I felt a rush of excitement for no reason, then for the rest of the day I was withdrawn and didn't talk to anyone.
 

dottie

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Yes!! I feel like I have to act fake all the time, too, first and foremost at work. Not so much anywhere else. That is why I loathe work so much. It's like eating shit. And the catch is- I am a bad actor so it is very obvious. I SO do not want to be there, I don't want to be doing what I'm doing (I feel like a cat getting a bath), and although I try to pretend to be friendly I think it is painfully obvious how I feel inside. Maybe part of why I can't make eye contact is because I feel like a fraud. If I told them all how I really felt it would be like:

EAT SHIT AND DIE.
You're a douchebag.
Your fake hair is ugly, you nasty ghetto bitch.
You're cool.
You're cool.
You're an arrogant cocksucker.
You're an asshole.
You can fuck off, too.
You're ok, I could hang with you.

FUCK YOU ALL I'm out. Cya!!! THEN maybe I would be happy.

But we're all indentured servants. Slaves to this system, no matter how you look at it. I try to pretend to be friendly, the act takes so much out of me. People say "be yourself" but if I was I wouldn't have a job.

Btw, sorry if I cuss so much on here. I really don't cuss so much in real life but gah... I guess this is where I come to vent. Maybe I need to invest in a punching bag.
 

ooSOULCRYoo

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Yeah.. I feel fake too.. I am a fake. When ppl ask me how Im doing, I answer with a fake cheesy smile "great thanks!" and what makes me more fake is that I lie to ppl that I have friends.. Im embarrassed to tell them that Im a loner. I used to have friends, but I push them all away. Actually I ran away from them and Im hidding because Im so ashamed of what I have become. They would so~ laugh at me if they found out how Im living. Im so tired of hidding from everyone.. even the mailman :roll:
 

nici

Member
know exactly what your talking about, I feel fake like Im trying to be someone Im not simply cos I dont want to be the someone I am. I constantly tell people im fine (and even emphasise it), The only people who know about my 'real' depression is my hubby, the rest of my friends and family are not being let in on the medications I take, therapy I go to, and when I hav really bad lows that sometimes lead to agression its my poor hubby that gets the brunt of it. I ve noticed in the past when I hav tried to confide in people about my mental state, they dont really seem to want to know, and never mention the 'diazepam' word to anyone cos then they just think your truly nuts and back off for a while. Ive learnt my lesson and now I hav this 'Im fine' with a big smile thing off to a tee! bet most of us could go down well at the oscars!!!!
 

lally

Active member
yeah i know how that feels.
i don't think acting "yourself" is fucking appropriate anywhere. people say you should act yourself, but really thats just implying be super friendly and bubbly and don't forget PUT ON A SMILE. fucking idiots...
ugh i'm so fucking pissed off now.
 

FunwithPineTrees

Active member
the feeling's mutual

i came across this website google search i feal unreal, and there were these people who felt the same way as i. go us!
 

dpr

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I told pretty much this exact same thing to my therapist and he said that I am exaggerating the scope of the difference between my "real self" and my "fake (work) self."

Is scope the right word? I dunno.

But he said that because of my negative thinking patterns (or cognitive distortions, whatever you want to call them), I perceive a huge difference in the way I act with people at work and the way I truly am. But that my "work self" and my "real self" are a lot more similar than I have perceived. In a way, I think he is right.

I mean, everyone "acts" through the course of their daily lives, in a sense.

Even "normal" people without SA or any other mental health problems don't talk to their grandmother the same way they talk to their friends at school. They don't talk to their co-workers the same way they talk to their significant others.

I sort of believe that no one in the world is truly "real," but that we all have a collection of different personalities we use when talking to different people in our lives, so that we can fit in with them.

I do feel how you feel though. I feel fake a lot of the time. I have tried a few ways to deal with this:

1. I try my best not to talk religion/politics with co-workers. Sometimes this doesn't work because someone will bring something up that I disagree with or whatever. For instance I live in a city with a lot of east/west indian people. My girlfriend is guyanese. So if one of my white co-workers said something like "There are too many indian people in this city," I would have to lay into them with something like "Oh yeah, well most of them were born in Canada just like you, genius. Where did YOUR parents come from anyway?" I know it doesn't mesh with my SA, but sometimes that happens. I just get so pissed that I have to say it, ya know? A while ago a co-worker was talking about how the govt in Myanmar was so stupid because they weren't letting American aid workers in to help after the earthquakes because they were afraid that the Americans would invade them and change their way of life. I just automatically blurted out, "Gee, I wonder where they got THAT idea!" in a really sarcastic tone. So religion/politics usually is a big thing for me, because if I were to smile and nod as some racist bigot went on and on about their thoughts on life, I would hate myself. So best to avoid those topics if possible, IMO.

2. I try not to laugh if I don't feel like laughing. This is hard sometimes, especially if a whole group of people are laughing. I feel like "I should laugh, or they'll think I'm a humorless weirdo." But I've been trying not to. I tell myself "If you don't think it's funny, then don't laugh. You are allowed to find something unfunny. You are allowed to have your own sense of humor."

3. I try my best not to placate people. But I do feel like I repeat a lot when I am listening to people, like I say "Oh yeah?" a lot if they're telling an "interesting" story. Or I say "that sucks" a lot, if they're telling about something bad happening to them. So I'm trying not to do that. I'm trying my best to say what is really in my head when somebody is talking to me, instead of just placating responses. I'm surprised actually, because now I think I am listening to people a lot more, and am able to focus on what they are saying instead of just thinking about my reaction to what they're saying.

Another strange subconscious way my behavior has changed to accommodate my "fakeness" is that I sometimes find myself acting like people who I admire. Like I feel inadequate, so I start behaving like a friend of mine who possesses good social skills, and I adopt his mannerisms and tone of voice and everything.

This is illogical in a way, because a big reason I admire this friend of mine is that he always seems like he is "being himself."

So I try to be myself by being like him. lol

Doesn't make a ton of sense, so I'm working on that one too.
 

Aramid

Active member
I feel that I'm bi-polar because this morning I was feeling happy but currently I'm depressed. I tried to act as genuine as possible and I did succeed. People look at me as a happy, interesting and a mysterious individual and I can say they do not know me very well. As time passes by, I want my life to be perfect. Perfection is always in my mind. The thought of mistake made me depress but most of us are aware that no one can be perfect.

I really hate people who pretend, disguise to be someone else who they are not. I do not pretend the whole time but on certain occasions you need to pretend to be happy to alleviate somebody's emotional pain. I love my life but if life can be controlled and changed in a snap, I would like it to be the way I want it to be.
 

MotherWolff

Banned
Well I can't say I hate the people who don't act as their 'usual selves,'(although I must admit I am chock-full of hatred :evil: ) rather I detest the precise 'action' of being fake. Probably since middleschool, I feel that if I can't be like everyone else than I simply cannot be with everyone else. So because I think its either their way or the highway, I chose the highway and as a result I have zero interest in being friends with people who are completely opposite from my personality or with those who just can't understand me. I remember times when I made silly attempts to 'fit in' with classmates. But after that whole circus act was over I would gain nothing in return, except for feeling weirder, stupider, and way out of character.

But I sometimes wonder if my currently dull personality is the 'real me' or not. I like to think that my happily bright real self is buried deep inside me just waiting to be resurrected some day because there was a time when I was just that. :)
 

dpr

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MotherWolff said:
Well I can't say I hate the people who don't act as their 'usual selves,'(although I must admit I am chock-full of hatred :evil: ) rather I detest the precise 'action' of being fake. Probably since middleschool, I feel that if I can't be like everyone else than I simply cannot be with everyone else. So because I think its either their way or the highway, I chose the highway and as a result I have zero interest in being friends with people who are completely opposite from my personality or with those who just can't understand me. I remember times when I made silly attempts to 'fit in' with classmates. But after that whole circus act was over I would gain nothing in return, except for feeling weirder, stupider, and way out of character.

But I sometimes wonder if my currently dull personality is the 'real me' or not. I like to think that my happily bright real self is buried deep inside me just waiting to be resurrected some day because there was a time when I was just that. :)

Wow that is so well said. I totally relate to all of that. Do we both feel this way because of SP? Or are we just the same "type" of people, I wonder? Are we destined to be this way?
 

MotherWolff

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dpr said:
Wow that is so well said. I totally relate to all of that. Do we both feel this way because of SP? Or are we just the same "type" of people, I wonder? Are we destined to be this way?

You've brought up some interesting questions there, dpr. For the most part, I believe that its safe to assume that SP has shaped our characters into what they are now(or perhaps these aren't even our true selves, they may just be our protective masks) and as a result we all(socially anxious people that is) just may be the same type of person. Well I do think that people are all actually different from each other but I also believe that people can be the same(in certain ways).

Sometimes I do believe in destiny, fate, predetermination, or whatever you want to name it.I mean, there are children who's mental capacity seems perhaps decades ahead of their time, for example. In this case, it truly appears as if they were "destined" to be genius' in the art of academics. But like I said previously, I was once a happy, outgoing sort of kid and I changed to the exact opposite. In that case, I wouldn't blame fate but rather the types of attitudes and beliefs I chose, perhaps unconsciously, to serve as armor against my seeming negative circumstances. So in a way, I believe we can make our own decisions or somebody will make them for us.

And I often wonder why many of us with SP regard people without SP(in other words, people who are socially skilled :wink: ) to be absolutely "normal" and consider ourselves to be extremely "abnormal"? Probably because thee majority has set up some standards on which we are expected to abide by. Has it ever occurred to the ignorant majority that we might just be "different" from them, like nonconformists. Why should we have to be "fake" to live up to their self-righteous standards?:roll: I bet even extroverts have to stomach that crap! Its like this all over the globe, I'm sure.
 

zootdroop

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My whole life is an act, actually a I'd call it a lie. But i guess it's an act, but one I've been putting on so long I don't even know I'm doing it. Whenever I'm around people I don't let my real self out and pretend to like everybody and agree with what everyone says and try not to give them any reason to dislike me. I agree with everything, if someone asks me if I like such and such band or movie I just say "yeah" or "I don't know". Even though inside I'm dying to tell them what I really think, but I'm too much of a pussy. If I really said what was on my mind everyone would hate my guts.
 

MotherWolff

Banned
zootdroop said:
My whole life is an act, actually a I'd call it a lie. But i guess it's an act, but one I've been putting on so long I don't even know I'm doing it. Whenever I'm around people I don't let my real self out and pretend to like everybody and agree with what everyone says and try not to give them any reason to dislike me. I agree with everything, if someone asks me if I like such and such band or movie I just say "yeah" or "I don't know". Even though inside I'm dying to tell them what I really think, but I'm too much of a pussy. If I really said what was on my mind everyone would hate my guts.

Yeah it really sucks that you are burdened with the idea that you must "act out" your feeling in order to gain approval and avoid rejection. This is simply a "defense mechanism" of yours. You are "defending" yourself against possible ridicule from others who think far differently than you do. I find it very heart breaking that the folks you are around can't even "see" you for who you truly are. And its probably best they didn't or else they might refuse you. I've felt that way for years(probably for a decade). And this is why I chose to be alone(with the exception that my bro is my only friend in person :|).
 

dpr

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MotherWolff said:
You've brought up some interesting questions there, dpr. For the most part, I believe that its safe to assume that SP has shaped our characters into what they are now(or perhaps these aren't even our true selves, they may just be our protective masks) and as a result we all(socially anxious people that is) just may be the same type of person. Well I do think that people are all actually different from each other but I also believe that people can be the same(in certain ways).

Sometimes I do believe in destiny, fate, predetermination, or whatever you want to name it.I mean, there are children who's mental capacity seems perhaps decades ahead of their time, for example. In this case, it truly appears as if they were "destined" to be genius' in the art of academics. But like I said previously, I was once a happy, outgoing sort of kid and I changed to the exact opposite. In that case, I wouldn't blame fate but rather the types of attitudes and beliefs I chose, perhaps unconsciously, to serve as armor against my seeming negative circumstances. So in a way, I believe we can make our own decisions or somebody will make them for us.

And I often wonder why many of us with SP regard people without SP(in other words, people who are socially skilled :wink: ) to be absolutely "normal" and consider ourselves to be extremely "abnormal"? Probably because thee majority has set up some standards on which we are expected to abide by. Has it ever occurred to the ignorant majority that we might just be "different" from them, like nonconformists. Why should we have to be "fake" to live up to their self-righteous standards?:roll: I bet even extroverts have to stomach that crap! Its like this all over the globe, I'm sure.

Yeah that's true, very good points Wolfy! And that's the thing... I often wonder if I'm the only one in the world who thinks it's stupid that there is a law against nudity. Like if I walked to the store right now completely naked, I would be arrested. How totally ridiculous and fascist is that, yet this is the world we live in? Another rule the majority has set us up with to abide by, though none of us were consulted. I could never bring things like this up to my co-workers or acquaintances as I'm sure the idiocy would stream out. I imagine males and females alike would bring up rape, as if seeing a naked woman causes men to rape them, or they would say something pseudo-conclusive like, "That's just the way the world is," or whatever. As a matter of fact, I sometimes think laws in general are stupid. They're clearly not working. There's a law against murder where I live and people still get murdered every day! wow this is going way into left field...

I guess my point was that I *do* regard these happy-go-lucky, straight-laced, i-can-get-along-with-anybody type of people as ABnormal and myself as... well not normal but more normal than them at least... I have contempt for them and not because I'm jealous of their social skills but because I honestly think they are insanely stupid. But it doesn't help my situation to regard them in this way. It just makes things worse. But what can I do? How can I choose to interact with people I hate? With people who bore me?

I have no idea how to interact with people like this, and I'm still trying to decide if I want to.

I sometimes think that those child prodigies -- like kids who can play grade 10 piano stuff at six years old -- are proof of reincarnation. But what do I know? lol :)
 

desperatehousewife

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Mood swings are enjoyable, it is not boring and people can not assume your behaviors.That is enjoyable.

It may a reason of the medicines you take now.
 

newbie

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I feel fake all the time. I put on this act that I am friendly and happy in front of my workmates and I feel shitty because I'm not really that friendly. I'm also sure that I am Bi-polar because of my mood shifts. Yesterday morning I was really hyper and I was talking really fast, because I felt a rush of excitement for no reason, then for the rest of the day I was withdrawn and didn't talk to anyone.

yep, i do the fake lauging too, i find the jokes funny but at the same time it feels weird to do so around ppl.

i'm slowly starting to push S.A, the outside doesn't scare me nemore, i can talk to strangers easy only last thing i gotta do is girls which most guys in the world when they first come to talk to girls are shy or even anxious.

i also can sometimes feel happy coming from a day spent with friends then feel down for either little reasons or no reaso but that doesn't happen so often ne more
 
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Red_Elephant

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Behavior is just habit. The more you think like this, the more this becomes engrained within you. That said, I think I'm on my way to become a social phobic (sp?). ****.

Anyway, it sounds like some of you aren't bipolar. Something that happened to you during the day probably killed your mood and you can't (refuse to) remember. Maybe it's something really small to most people, but being sensitive it really screwed you up and then you're back to feeling down. Maybe someone offended you in a menial way, or maybe you felt left out.

This is just my point of view from an outsider trying to relate.

Some old dude said recently, the internet's become a place where you can find anyone that agrees with you. Any idea that indulges in making you superior to others is erroneous. Just make sure you guys don't close yourself in and remain open to all ideas. Don't become like those overzealous weirdos at child_free.

Okay, on topic. I feel fake, but in the way that I just want people to like me so badly and I forget about actually interacting. I guess it's cause I'm starting to care more about myself than those around me. And people can tell, and they like me less. And then I withdraw and don't want to be around them anymore. At all. Ever.
 

chrisjurban

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So weird. Dpr and MotherWolff, you said exactly what I feel. Whenever I am in any kind of social situation I feel like there is some kind of "real me" that is not coming out. When I was a child I was really happy and said what was on my mind, and then I think that the happy child is how I should really be. I feel like when I say things to people, they are only logical constructions I've developed based on what I've observed in social settings.

With one of my friends who is similar to me, we even developed a couple of "funny" phrases that we constantly say to each other in lieu of spontaneous small talk (e.g. "I just had a baby"). I have another friend who is extremely socially adept and it seems like he is always being himself, saying how he feels, and putting a lot of emotion into his words; basically it seems like he's being himself. Sometimes I do what you do (dpr) and copy exactly how he behaves socially and it usually gets people pretty into conversations with me. It works really well.

But no matter what I do, everything I say feels fake. In conversations with adults (especially when I was 15, 16, and now still at 17) I usually have this set way of talking. I will ask questions that are logical extensions of my surroundings or of something they've said, and will respond logically to everything (I'm so mad that he said that to me; well it's likely that he was only feeling concern for your well-being).

I can actually cite points in my life where I began to feel like I do. The death of my cat, my mother's withdrawal at the death of her boyfriend, and my grandfather's death triggered massive depressive and OCD episodes in my life. As an add here, I also like to self-diagnose, though psychiatric evaluation did say I meet social phobia criteria. The weird thing is, is that I have actually felt the happiness inside of me again, and from that perspective I can say that this feeling of being fake is really just a product of our lacking happiness; the weird thing is is that the happy person actually will talk to people in the way that we perceive as being fake and not ourselves. They, or me, rather, tend(s) to realize that while yes, little social quips like laughing at things that aren't that funny and putting a sense of involvement into a conversation aren't exactly what they are feeling, they are okay and are part of interaction with other people and are just mechanisms that better our relationships with others. Yes, if the happy person is sad he will say so, and if happy he will say so. But these things are merely additives to interactions with other people, while social quips are key factors in the portrayal of the inner emotion, but not the inner emotions themselves.

Does that make sense?
 
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