wow..

[no1]

so I went to the mental hospital looking for outpatient services, and the initial psychiatrist referred me to the "inpatient" services where all the crazy's and suicidal people stay. So again I was pretty much baker acted, but this time I said nothing about wanting to kill myself, only that I had thoughts of hopelessness. They wanted to keep me there for a week, until I spoke up and told them that I wanted to go against medical advice and sign a release of info form.

When I got out of there I was labelled schizoprenic. So now according to the psychiatrist I am schizophrenic. I guess anyone who believes in conspiracy theories, and has social anxiety (for whatever reason) is schizophrenic. It's absurd.

 

[stardog]

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[playthepsychedelic]

so I went to the mental hospital looking for outpatient services, and the initial psychiatrist referred me to the "inpatient" services where all the crazy's and suicidal people stay. So again I was pretty much baker acted, but this time I said nothing about wanting to *****, only that I had thoughts of hopelessness. They wanted to keep me there for a week, until I spoke up and told them that I wanted to go against medical advice and sign a release of info form.

When I got out of there I was labelled schizoprenic. So now according to the psychiatrist I am schizophrenic. I guess anyone who believes in conspiracy theories, and has social anxiety (for whatever reason) is schizophrenic. It's absurd.

schizofrenia can be diagnosed by many things, not just the classical "voices in your head" crap. Did you asked the doctor for explanation?

 

[no1]

yeah. I dont have voices in my head...

 

[Riiya]

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[Goriot]

I don't know how much you went into your ideas on conspiracy theories, or even what they are, because I have only read your recent posts. But if you're talking to a psychiatrist about them and you display a certain social awkwardness then it's a natural conclusion for them to come to. I'd take it with a pinch of salt at this stage, but I suppose it'll do no harm to read up on it...unless you're susceptible to wikipedia disease, also known as hypochondria.

I've found the posts of yours that I've read quite eloquent and straightforward (maybe I should delve deeper :lol: ), and I know 'disorganised thinking' is one symptom of schizophrenia. But then I don't know how much that would show on a messageboard.

Psychiatrists are only human. As Riiya and flakey said, I'd seek a second, and possibly third opinion.

 

[no1]

IMHO I thought it was wrong for me to be baker acted without even my notice. I thought it was a mistake, misunderstanding or the psychiatrist deceived me, she probably gets money from this and so does the hospital, and I get thousands of dollars in bills from this and I can't do anything about it, and they baker acted me without my "choice". the bully 'watchers' whatever they are never needed to put their hands on me like they did. I didn't even understand what was going on. I've been there before, I didn't want to go back in, but they treated me like another one of those "crazies" and I couldn't talk to the psychiatrist again or anyone else, I had no choice but to stay there for these 24 hrs in piss poor conditions, with people who are madd out of their minds. I didn't belong there.

I still don't even know why I was baker acted...

 

[no1]

I can't believe what comes across as schizophrenia these days, and all these other "psychotic" symptoms.

Anything that falls into the category of not being "normal" or "disorganized" or "delusional" for example believing in lies, (even if by mistake), can be considered a "psychotic" symptom. Anything "abnormal". Who the hell defines what normality is?

What about all those think think everything is 100 percent good in this world, that there are no problems with governments and the economic systems? What about religious peoples? Hell what about people who are misinformed? What about Rejects of society? What the hell are they? Anyone who shows hot and cold "moods" in the same hr arew labelled bipolar, simply because they jsut happened upon a situation which made them that way in the course of say an hour?

Sure maybe there's a differenc ebetween whether it "gets to you" or "things that drive you "crazy" beyond a point of normality, but there is such a broad spectrum.

I just had a followup to a psychiatrist and she says I'm more schizoaffective. Yeah maybe the world has made me crazy but someone who knows a lot of what's going on who doesn't have too much control over his/her life might just go crazy as I have... It's just natural. It might also be relieved by some EXTERNAL CHANGES which support such "schizophrenic behaviours" as well as internal changes.

eduit: look at all these other disorders which may be a misdiagonisis of schizophrenia http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/s/schizophrenia/misdiag.htm

it seems like schizophrenia or any of the other schizo disorders are used as a "one size fits all" category to place anyone with one or more of the symptoms.

maybe I am just confused!?

seriously, what is the real definition of "abnormal"? What is the real definition "dysfunctional?" Does is matter what time/space you are in? We can probably even said not enough is known about ANYTHING to really call too many things as so "disordered" or "abnormal".

relativity.

I understand I may need treatment, but certainly not the wrong treatment.

 

[no1]

wow.. I took my first dose of Abilify this morning and it completely MESSED ME UP!

I had to stay in bed the entire freakin day, and I'm still tired as hell. I had the worst agitation in my life..chest pains, reproductive organ pain. stomach pain and tightness, same as the chest. headache. blurry vision and distancey feeling. extreme tiredness and lethargy, lack of motivation etc.

It almost feels like these pills were meant to mess other parts of the body up just so I can make an excuse to treat another symptom of sickness.*yawn*

I took it at 8am and I've been in bed all day and I still feel tired yet agitated, and stupid. aches all over my body.. heat, etc.


I freaking wonder why medicine like this is even allowed in the pharmacy. they don't even know how this works, what exactly it does, or anything.

ANYTHING!!!!!!!

this goes for every single damn medication I have ever tried in psychiatry.

Ok, MAYBE psychiatry is in it's infancy. Well it's acting more like a stubborn spoiled brat child because natural therapy is always being overlooked or misinterpretted.

 

[sabbath92003]

After I read Mad In America: Bad Science, Bad Medicine, and The Enduring Mistreatment of the Mentally Ill by Robert Whitaker, I realized that we are still in the dark ages when it comes to psychology / psychiatry.

Mad In America - Amazon.com page

Mad in America begins by surveying three centuries of mental health treatments to discover why positive outcomes for schizophrenics in the U.S. for the last 25 years have decreased--making them lower than those in developing countries. Whitaker asks, "Why should living in a country with such rich resources and advanced medical treatments for disorders of every kind, be so toxic to those who are severely mentally ill?"

One of Whitaker's answers draws upon the historic and current assumptions of a physical cause for schizophrenia. This resulted in cruel and unusual physical treatments--from ice-water immersion and bloodletting to the more contemporary electroshock, lobotomy, and drug therapies with dangerous side effects. This physical cause model leads to Whitaker's more provocative explanation: that mental illness has become a profit center. He offers disturbing details about how good business for drug companies makes for bad medicine in treating schizophrenia. From drug companies skewing their studies and patient/subjects kept in the dark about experiments to the cozy relationship between the American Psychiatric Association and drug companies, Whitaker underlines the mistreatment of the mentally ill. This courageous and compelling book succeeds as both a history of our attitudes toward mental illness and a manifesto for changing them. --Barbara Mackoff