wistful_dementia
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Apparently I keep doing it again and again or maybe I am just self concious. I love to learn about topics that are different than myself. And women are no exception- although I may have feminine sides- obviously I can't completely understand what it is like to walk in a womans shoes. But it is my philosophy that the only way the world is going to become a better place is for people to understand each other. How is feminism going to progress if you leave half of the human race (the males) ignorant? So anyways sometimes I enjoy talking in a philosophical or academic manner with women at times and I ask probing questions. Sometimes they may seem basic, but sometimes things are so basic that we take fundamentals for granted and have no idea how the idea came about in the first place. And if you have no idea about the fundamental how can we make the complex issues better?
For example: take abortion- on an emotional level I have no problem with women doing it and I don't condemn women at all for it. And I agree totally- it is a woman's choice. For a woman not to have control over her own body is almost analogous to being raped I would suppose- again I am not a women so I must empathize on a theoretical level. But anyways the other day ago i was discussing this with woman what does it mean that it is a choice for a woman to have an abortion? And what value do we as a human race put on a life. Should we be principled for the sake of society to define when a life begins and when it ends? I think the only accurate way to define life is scientifically (not through scewed religious reasoning). I have heard that brain waves, a heart beat and response to stimuli begin after two months. If the medical definition of death is after the brain waves cease, shouldn't the definition of the begining of life be when the brain waves begin and when the fetus can respond to stimuli? Just because an embilical cord is feeding the fetus does that mean that the woman is not to be held responsible for it? Granted at one point it was nothing but her body + a tad bit of donated male DNA. In anycase, my point is this women couldn't intelligently answers any of my questions and actually seemed to take offense to my questions. I didn't intend any offence. It was purely a theoretical discussion. If you can't explain things on a basic level then how am I to totally agree with the issue? Teach me.
My problem was that maybe she felt that I was being insensitive but I wasn't- I was simply trying to learn. So my PROBLEM IS I strike an emotional cord- not trying to offend or attack anyone, but simply discussing things on a theoretical level. And unfortunately, my dumb ass even pisses women off when I don't even mean to- when just talking casually. Women seem to become defensive and lash out at me- but how am I supposed to change if I don't even know what I am doing wrong? Why don't women feel the need to try to control their emotions and educate me so that my dumb ass and people like me don't keep making the same ignorant mistakes. Wouldn't it mutually benificial? Lashing out seems like a temporary catharsis- like a band aid- it doesn't solve the problem. No, I am not perfect, and I even become defensive at times- see my response to two words but at least I make an attempt to understand people that are different than myself. I think alot of women don't realize that all men are not unfeeling, 'alpha' male types and we too have feelings and deserve to be respected as humans not just looked at like we are non thinking and NON FEELING males who are completely undeserving, penis possessing, leg humpers. In anycase, I am a social phobe and self concious when in casual convos, so please just realize not everyone has the gift of gab and educate me, don't yell at me- my father was very rageful and abusive and has done enough senseless and meaningless screaming while I was growing up to last 100 lifetimes. Do as I say- no need to understand why- was his authoritarian moto. So I mean that even though we may find being abusive empowering- it is futile- and doesn't change a damn thing.
Take care everyone.....
For example: take abortion- on an emotional level I have no problem with women doing it and I don't condemn women at all for it. And I agree totally- it is a woman's choice. For a woman not to have control over her own body is almost analogous to being raped I would suppose- again I am not a women so I must empathize on a theoretical level. But anyways the other day ago i was discussing this with woman what does it mean that it is a choice for a woman to have an abortion? And what value do we as a human race put on a life. Should we be principled for the sake of society to define when a life begins and when it ends? I think the only accurate way to define life is scientifically (not through scewed religious reasoning). I have heard that brain waves, a heart beat and response to stimuli begin after two months. If the medical definition of death is after the brain waves cease, shouldn't the definition of the begining of life be when the brain waves begin and when the fetus can respond to stimuli? Just because an embilical cord is feeding the fetus does that mean that the woman is not to be held responsible for it? Granted at one point it was nothing but her body + a tad bit of donated male DNA. In anycase, my point is this women couldn't intelligently answers any of my questions and actually seemed to take offense to my questions. I didn't intend any offence. It was purely a theoretical discussion. If you can't explain things on a basic level then how am I to totally agree with the issue? Teach me.
My problem was that maybe she felt that I was being insensitive but I wasn't- I was simply trying to learn. So my PROBLEM IS I strike an emotional cord- not trying to offend or attack anyone, but simply discussing things on a theoretical level. And unfortunately, my dumb ass even pisses women off when I don't even mean to- when just talking casually. Women seem to become defensive and lash out at me- but how am I supposed to change if I don't even know what I am doing wrong? Why don't women feel the need to try to control their emotions and educate me so that my dumb ass and people like me don't keep making the same ignorant mistakes. Wouldn't it mutually benificial? Lashing out seems like a temporary catharsis- like a band aid- it doesn't solve the problem. No, I am not perfect, and I even become defensive at times- see my response to two words but at least I make an attempt to understand people that are different than myself. I think alot of women don't realize that all men are not unfeeling, 'alpha' male types and we too have feelings and deserve to be respected as humans not just looked at like we are non thinking and NON FEELING males who are completely undeserving, penis possessing, leg humpers. In anycase, I am a social phobe and self concious when in casual convos, so please just realize not everyone has the gift of gab and educate me, don't yell at me- my father was very rageful and abusive and has done enough senseless and meaningless screaming while I was growing up to last 100 lifetimes. Do as I say- no need to understand why- was his authoritarian moto. So I mean that even though we may find being abusive empowering- it is futile- and doesn't change a damn thing.
Take care everyone.....