SAY GOODBYE TO SWEATY HANDS AND FEET FOLLOW-UP FOR DOUBTERS!

Carvel58

Member
This is a follow-up for the doubters and negative posts received from my first post, "SAY GOODBYE TO SWEATY HANDS AND FEET."

Some people just don't have any appreciation for people trying to give aid information for the millions of hyperhydrosis sufferers in the world.

I am one of the ones trying to help.

Maybe the following information I received from an inquiry I sent to the International Hyperhydrosis Society, will help explain my cause:

Hi Dr. Lincoln,

Thanks for your email. I will help you with your inquiry.

I took a look at your website, which speaks on the Tite-Grip product. We
recently promoted our Sweat Testers program (wherein we had our interested
newsletter subscribers test products related to sweating) via one of our
newsletter stories. Click on the following link to read the story:
http://www.sweathelp.org/English/CMN_Article.asp?ArticleCode=61743904&EditionCode=24652687

If you are interested in having us do this type of program with your
product, you may email Lisa J. Pieretti, who is the Executive Director of
the International Hyperhidrosis Society. Here is Lisa's email:
[email protected]. Please be advised that there is a fee to cover our costs
for working on this program and we cannot guarantee positive reviews
although we will share the reviews with you.

Also, can you please tell me what your specialty is (i.e. dermatology,
etc.)?

Best regards,

Christine A. Fleckenstein
Support Specialist
International Hyperhidrosis Society

----- Forwarded message from [email protected] -----
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:51:13 -0800
From: "SweatHelp.org" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "SweatHelp.org" <[email protected]>
Subject: Ask Frances Submission
To: [email protected]

Dr. Carvel Lincoln([email protected]) has a question concerning
Hyperhydrosis:

May I be of help in treating hyperhydrosis?

My web site is: www.handssweatnomore.com

Thank you for your time and hopefully your interest.

Best regards,

Dr. Carvel Lincoln
[email protected]
www.handssweatnomore.com

Anyway, I hope you understand that I am only trying to help the hyperhydrosis sufferers worldwide.

I know there are a lot of treatments available and I was just offering information on ours.

Hope I don't get any more of those nasty responses. I don't have the respect of some of the language used.

Hopefully the administrator of this site will caution such use.

Best regards,

Carvel
 

klamm76

Well-known member
First of all it is called Hyperidrosis,and not hyperhydrosis as you are calling it.

Second,,Yes I really hope the administrator for this forum can take a look at this,because I dont think that you a qualified to advertice for this product.And as I also understand it it is not allowed to advertice in that way YOU are doing it.Thats why I think you get a profit on this,because you dont even have HH,cant even spell it right.

I am from Norway,and have at least an excuse to not spell things right in here, since english is my second launguage.But at least I know how hyperhidrosis is spelled.

At last, yes ONLY this note under here (International Hyperhidrosis Society) can look a little trustwordy,but you have not get this true whith them YEAT,they are even asking you questions what your specialty is (i,e. dermatology,etc)?.

So what do you expect from us to say to you???

I am really sorry if you really ment this in a good way,but I still dont think you just can storm in here on this forum and advertice on something that is not proven yeat,and claim that this is a lifesaver for all us HH sufferer whith sweaty hands and feet.

Best regards to you to:/?

Christine A. Fleckenstein
Support Specialist
International Hyperhidrosis Society
 

kingflab

Well-known member
Great effort. Patronise your customer base and break the forum rules. If you intended to sell your product, you're going about it the wrong way.

The Perspi-Guard chaps at least had the decency to offer a free sample of their product when they tried it.

And I question your credentials as a doctor.

I appreciate the fact that you don't like such language, I'm a political scientist and I'll use it all the fuck I want, and if the admins do see this thread it'll be you who gets banned for advertising (so bloody blatantly) with a novelty product in the first place.

I mean really, if you are a Doctor, did you not for one second wonder why no other post in this forum advertised so bloody blatantly as yours did? Did that just not occur to you? Second largest HH forum on the internet, and yet not one single major advertising post from all the large HH brands out there... did that just not seem the slightest bit questionable?

We don't want dodgy adverts. And we don't want products that promise bugger all. There are a thousand items that do all that already, and its all bloody useless. What I want is proof that your product works.
 

Carvel58

Member
kingflab said:
Great effort. Patronise your customer base and break the forum rules. If you intended to sell your product, you're going about it the wrong way.

The Perspi-Guard chaps at least had the decency to offer a free sample of their product when they tried it.

And I question your credentials as a doctor.

I appreciate the fact that you don't like such language, I'm a political scientist and I'll use it all the fuck I want, and if the admins do see this thread it'll be you who gets banned for advertising (so bloody blatantly) with a novelty product in the first place.

I mean really, if you are a Doctor, did you not for one second wonder why no other post in this forum advertised so bloody blatantly as yours did? Did that just not occur to you? Second largest HH forum on the internet, and yet not one single major advertising post from all the large HH brands out there... did that just not seem the slightest bit questionable?

We don't want dodgy adverts. And we don't want products that promise bugger all. There are a thousand items that do all that already, and its all bloody useless. What I want is proof that your product works.

I'm sorry about all that has transpired over this.

I was just trying to help.

By the way you mispelled hyperhidrosis(hyperidrosis)and it can be spelled both ways with an i or a y.

I've asked the Adminstrator to remove my posts.

Best regards,

Carvel58
 

kingflab

Well-known member
If only that worked with all marketing spam and my email would be 50,000 messages down. Be honest now, did you make that post because you were trying to help, or because you wanted to sell us a product. The financial value of hyperhidrosis sufferers for the medical industry is ridiculous (not in terms of scale, but in terms of the amount of money each person spends trying to combat the surgery).

I do apologise if you actually are a doctor, but look at it from our point of view. The major surgery option we have is ETS, and surgeons have been telling us for years its perfectly safe - yet thats turning out to be a load of bollocks. Anything else is ridiculously expensive, antiperspirants rarely work, botox is far overpriced, other surgery options offer little information and expect a lot of money for payment, and the national medical services seem to know no more about the condition than I do.

I'm getting fed up of reading published reports from the official International Hyperhidrosis Society (and elsewhere) going on about the benefits of ETS and botox, yet whenever you try to look into any other treatments (curettage, botox through iontophoresis, vaser) theres rarely a journal around that actual gives any solid information. All in all, you just end up getting pissed at seeing the same old bollocks all the time. I'm starting to feel like Doctors are more concerned about how they can use HH to get money from me than they are about how they can actually cure the condition; Dr Rowland Payne for example is impossible to get any information out of without paying £345 for a consultation.

-edit- I didn't mispell hyperhidrosis, I didn't even use that word in my last post...
 

klamm76

Well-known member
Hehe,,about the spelling thing,,that was my BAD,,offcourse I ment hyperhidrosis,and if you read longer down the post it is spelled right,but offcourse you didnt mention that:)

And what? You can call HH for hyperhidrosis or hyperhydrosis, it is the same?,,,,never heard of that one befor?,,making me laugh again:)

I mean a name of a disease is a name of a disease.Its like you can call a broken leg,,for a choken leg if YOU want to?,,,I know this may sound a little childish,but I just cant take you serius either!!!!

I havent made any comment about the spelling thing if a normal person whit HH had come in here and spelled the name wrong,,,but YOU as a Docktor,and claiming you have found are cure for sweaty hands/feet.

YES then I expect at lest that you spell the name of the disease right!!!!!!!!!!

Best regards again:/

TNX
 

Carvel58

Member
klamm76 said:
Hehe,,about the spelling thing,,that was my BAD,,offcourse I ment hyperhidrosis,and if you read longer down the post it is spelled right,but offcourse you didnt mention that:)

And what? You can call HH for hyperhidrosis or hyperhydrosis, it is the same?,,,,never heard of that one befor?,,making me laugh again:)

I mean a name of a disease is a name of a disease.Its like you can call a broken leg,,for a choken leg if YOU want to?,,,I know this may sound a little childish,but I just cant take you serius either!!!!

I havent made any comment about the spelling thing if a normal person whit HH had come in here and spelled the name wrong,,,but YOU as a Docktor,and claiming you have found are cure for sweaty hands/feet.

YES then I expect at lest that you spell the name of the disease right!!!!!!!!!!

Best regards again:/

TNX

You might want to check out MedicalHealthDoctor.info and go to Search and type in Hyperhydrosis and then Go. It's all there.

Sorry if I used the wrong one for you.

TNX Also
 

BiGz

Well-known member
I'm going to interject here and yes he's right I found out myself a few weeks ago it can be spelled both ways BUT anyway to get back to what I was going to say.

Even if you are genuine and made an oversight not checking to see the forum rules on advertising you would of coped flack, as after all you are promoting your own product. Just have to understand us sufferers have been made this way from the amount of stuff thats out there from reputable sources claiming so much and delivering little if nothing at all.

Now I have a suggestion for you which honestly if you believe in your product than you would jump at this opportunity. I'm willing to give your product a go IF you are willing to send me out a tube free of charge. IF it works than I'll let the HH community know. If this sound good to you than I'll PM you my details.

Thanks

Ash
 

Carvel58

Member
BiGz said:
I'm going to interject here and yes he's right I found out myself a few weeks ago it can be spelled both ways BUT anyway to get back to what I was going to say.

Even if you are genuine and made an oversight not checking to see the forum rules on advertising you would of coped flack, as after all you are promoting your own product. Just have to understand us sufferers have been made this way from the amount of stuff thats out there from reputable sources claiming so much and delivering little if nothing at all.

Now I have a suggestion for you which honestly if you believe in your product than you would jump at this opportunity. I'm willing to give your product a go IF you are willing to send me out a tube free of charge. IF it works than I'll let the HH community know. If this sound good to you than I'll PM you my details.

Thanks

Ash

Ash,

So kind of you sir. That is the kind of response I really appreciate for my goof up.

Yes, I will be glad to send you a free tube to try.

Please send me your mailing address.

Regards,

Carvel
 

klamm76

Well-known member
First.
OK,I didnt know that.But I know that BIGs is active on this forum as a HH sufferer so then I belive that it can be spelled both ways if he has checked it out!!,but I still havent heard that before? .It was as I said before on my last post on this submit.
I had NOT mention the spelling thing to normal person on this forum, but YOU as a Docktor,I expect it to be spelled right!!!!!!!!So OK and sorry!

Second.
Carvel58 that is great of you to do that (send a tube for free),but mayby you should started whit your last post in the beginning,,or what do you mean about that yourself??

TNX
 

Carvel58

Member
klamm76 said:
First.
OK,I didnt know that.But I know that BIGs is active on this forum as a HH sufferer so then I belive that it can be spelled both ways if he has checked it out!!,but I still havent heard that before? .It was as I said before on my last post on this submit.
I had NOT mention the spelling thing to normal person on this forum, but YOU as a Docktor,I expect it to be spelled right!!!!!!!!So OK and sorry!

Second.
Carvel58 that is great of you to do that (send a tube for free),but mayby you should started whit your last post in the beginning,,or what do you mean about that yourself??

TNX

I don't understand the Second.

Carvel
 

klamm76

Well-known member
Dont understand the second?

Ok,,let me put it this way then.Has your product been proven of somebody on this forum or any other serius forum for HH sufferes`? Or,has it been approved by a healthcommity or something like that? (sorry my english,but hope you understand).....If not then your first post looked more like a advertice, and somebody who was looking to earn a penny/buck on others missory.

Because we who have HH is reallly deaperate and can be very sensitive since we allready have tried out a lot of crap that dont work.

If you dont understand now,I cant help you understand it in any other way!!

TNX
 

Carvel58

Member
klamm76 said:
Dont understand the second?

Ok,,let me put it this way then.Has your product been proven of somebody on this forum or any other serius forum for HH sufferes`? Or,has it been approved by a healthcommity or something like that? (sorry my english,but hope you understand).....If not then your first post looked more like a advertice, and somebody who was looking to earn a penny/buck on others missory.

Because we who have HH is reallly deaperate and can be very sensitive since we allready have tried out a lot of crap that dont work.

If you dont understand now,I cant help you understand it in any other way!!TNX

I don't know of anyone on this forum who has used my product or not but we have had hyperhidrosis patients who have ordered it and used it.

Haven't had any negative feedback as yet.

So someone on your forum might give it a try and see the results.

I don't mind sending a sample tube to someone and have them pass it around and give it a try. There are 40-50 applications in a tube.

Please let me know a mailing address and I will be happy to send a sample.

Best regards,

Carvel
 

klamm76

Well-known member
Hi again Carvel or Dr.Lincoln.

Thanks for your hounest answer and offer of sending me a sample of your product,I maybe send you my adress in here.But the thing is, I allready have my own thing going on that works pretty well.

I use iontophoresis once a week in combo with dehydral cream on my fingertips.Because the ionto dont take proberly care/rid of my sweating on my finger tips.

Another thing whit these antiperspirant that is funny,they dont work the same from person to person.F.eks sweat-stop forte can work on 1 human being,but not on another that have the same problem??

But like I said THANKS and I maybe take you up on this:)


TNX
 

Carvel58

Member
klamm76 said:
Hi again Carvel or Dr.Lincoln.

Thanks for your hounest answer and offer of sending me a sample of your product,I maybe send you my adress in here.But the thing is, I allready have my own thing going on that works pretty well.

I use iontophoresis once a week in combo with dehydral cream on my fingertips.Because the ionto dont take proberly care/rid of my sweating on my finger tips.

Another thing whit these antiperspirant that is funny,they dont work the same from person to person.F.eks sweat-stop forte can work on 1 human being,but not on another that have the same problem??

But like I said THANKS and I maybe take you up on this:)


TNX

Thanks for the nice response.

I agree that usually there are situations whereby each individual gets different relief from different treatments.

I'm so glad you have found something that gives you relief.

Keep it up. Don't change horses in the middle of the stream.

Regards,

carvel
 

cm123

Well-known member
Hello,
I am a fairly active member on the forum and would be willing to test this product out if provided with some free samples. When using the product I will document the effects of the product day by day and give my non biased verdict to the forum. My only request is that you also include an extra tube for my brother who is also suffering from HH.

-C
 

klamm76

Well-known member
Yea,and another thing why I am a little sceptical is if this produckt,enen if it works great!
But Not is approved by some health organisation etc.then it can actually be dangeraus,because this antiperspirants goes into our skin,and further into our body.And maybe toxic us in somewhay??

But still,,tumbs up for people who are trying to help us,even if they make big money on it if they have sucsess.Then it ia a win,win situation.

But spare me for the books,herbalpills etc....


TNX
 
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