Not going to get girls attracted to me

Do you think that girls/guys are out to get you, and won't give you the time of day


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KevVversion1

Active member
I have not conquered my social phobia yet but I try to adopt the mentality of not being affraid to screw up, almost expecting it and laughing when it happens. That way if you dont fear making a mistake you are less likely to wheras if you fear it then it will enevitably happen. I always try to adopt this attitude and it helps me a lot to become more relaxed. Other things I try to think are about how much that person really cares, will they really go away and think "what an idiot"....and even if they do, does it matter?... it's just a chemical reaction in their brain, does that persons thought even exsist???... We need to somehow try and see other peoples thoughts as pretty insignificant, I know that is harsh but as long as we just think it and dont act that way it can help... I just like to look up at the sky and think how massive the universe is and how small one persons thoughts are!!!

well since Ive never had counselling for this, thats just a few things I have tried to do to help myself, I hope somebody can gain something from it.
 

renegade

Well-known member
sickofbeinglonely said:
Hi Renegade,

That lost post is so true. I find I've also rejected people because I've assumed they would reject me. I feel as though I'm invisible when I'm out but all the time I'm observing other people. I have to keep reminding myself that I have no evidence to think that they've got better lives than me or are much happier people. But it always makes me feel lonelier to see small groups of people accepting each other and ignoring me. That feeling goes back to when I was at school which I hated and couldn't wait to leave.

I naturally assume people dislike me until I get to know them so it's hard not to permanently feel rejected.

Invisible you say? Yes, we try to be invisible and not to atract anyone's attention on us. Like when you meet with your coleagues and they are all grouped toghether and you say hy to them, you become the center of attention. And after this you are invisible and you feel comfortable, although you eager for attention, it's always a battle in the mind.

I don't know if other people are happier than us, SA-ers, but the majority have a general predisposition for happiness, and social interaction triggers that ''joy of living'' Wheras to us social interaction works the other way around. But anyway, how much joy can people who reject us bring us ?

And you often wonder: ain't I a human too, ain't I good enough for nobody, am I so boring, so disgusting, so repulsive, so different ? It feels I'm not one of them, it somethimes looks like they have a secret language and rules known only by them. It's me and the rest of the world, two different species. But this thoughts are self-distructive and when they envade my mind I try to debate them and give myself rational explanations.

About this subject..being part of a group and feeling accepted as a part of it. This dates back to our ancesters, we humans are sociable beeings and feel the need to belong to a culture, a nation, a society. Many ''normal'' people don't realize the importance of this issue.

Even animals in the wild die if they are rejected from the group, not because of starvation or first or other things, but because they are not integrated and a member of a pack. That's how I see it. Or if they don't die they are very miserable and without a purpose, just walk around like zombies and eventually die.

An interesting thing I heard today, parots held in captivity actualy die from lonelyness, if they don't get attention and stuff. I don't how true this is, but I heard about many cases.

Oh, and about the subject of the topic, your rank in a certain gang of boys is a sign of power and to girls this aspect is very important, they often choose the lider cause they need and feel protected this way, the lower your rank is in your group of friends the lower chances you have to get girls interested into you. Hierarchy does matter a lot. But that doesn't apply in all situation, lucky for us.

Ok, enough, if I write more I'll get depressed. :roll:
 

stardog

Well-known member
I actually feel depressed now...

I mean I know all this is true an all, but reading it makes me feel like shit :( a year ago or so this wouldnt have affected me much, but I guess I just get easily depressed these days. Hey thats another turn-off isn't it? I guess there's no hope for me.
 

The_9th_passenger

Well-known member
crashmodem said:
i will lighten up when my life starts to lighten up...

Why not lightening up while you wait until your life lightens up? :D
Are you going to be sad the rest of your life? Give your worries the sack!! Throw them to the sea and start a happier life even if your life is a disaster (mine is! but... WHAT THE F***? I'm not going to live forever and don't want to spend all my life complaining)


I used to think that no girl would ever want to be with me... but that wasn't true! Not that they have been too many..but some girls (let's say 5 or 6 in all my 32 years' life) have aproached me in a way that now i understand that they were trying to date me. Only I didn't notice it in that time because I believed I was so ugly that no girl would ever want me. Shit... I've been so stupid jajja
And you know what? Nowadays I notice lots of girls stare at me with bright eyes that mean they like me.
And believe it! The happier you are, the better your life gets and the more attractive you seem to others. So just smile!

Another thing I want to tell to everybody. If you consider yourself a "jerk" or a nerd or anything like that... don't you worry. Just stay as you are because there are lots of "nerd" girls who are waiting for you and me my friends! And when you get one of those "nerd girls" you'll see they are quite much better than ordinary, "standar" girls. (the same works in the oposite direction with girls) Just like you and me are quite much "quality" persons than standar boys who just thing about stupid things and have no such concience that we have. We are quite aware of other's feelings and are quite sensitive and melow... and that's an extraordinary thing when it comes to an adult relationship, and of course i mean a serious relationship (not just one night stands and all that shit)
Yeah! life's better than it seems once you look at it in a better way.
REally. Believe me. You are so nice -all of you- than when you get over that damned SP you'll be the best persons over the world.


PD: excuse my english... if someone didn't get something just askme for a better explanation :lol: remember I come from LV-426 millions of lightyears from the Earth :wink: .
 

The_9th_passenger

Well-known member
sickofbeinglonely said:
Hi Renegade,

That lost post is so true. I find I've also rejected people because I've assumed they would reject me. I feel as though I'm invisible when I'm out but all the time I'm observing other people. I have to keep reminding myself that I have no evidence to think that they've got better lives than me or are much happier people. But it always makes me feel lonelier to see small groups of people accepting each other and ignoring me. That feeling goes back to when I was at school which I hated and couldn't wait to leave.

I naturally assume people dislike me until I get to know them so it's hard not to permanently feel rejected.

Yes we use to do such things like getting away from others because we think others will reject us. So what should we do?


renegade said:
Invisible you say? Yes, we try to be invisible and not to atract anyone's attention on us. Like when you meet with your coleagues and they are all grouped toghether and you say hy to them, you become the center of attention. And after this you are invisible and you feel comfortable, although you eager for attention, it's always a battle in the mind.

I don't know if other people are happier than us, SA-ers, but the majority have a general predisposition for happiness, and social interaction triggers that ''joy of living'' Wheras to us social interaction works the other way around. But anyway, how much joy can people who reject us bring us ?

And you often wonder: ain't I a human too, ain't I good enough for nobody, am I so boring, so disgusting, so repulsive, so different ? It feels I'm not one of them, it somethimes looks like they have a secret language and rules known only by them. It's me and the rest of the world, two different species. But this thoughts are self-distructive and when they envade my mind I try to debate them and give myself rational explanations.

About this subject..being part of a group and feeling accepted as a part of it. This dates back to our ancesters, we humans are sociable beeings and feel the need to belong to a culture, a nation, a society. Many ''normal'' people don't realize the importance of this issue.

Even animals in the wild die if they are rejected from the group, not because of starvation or first or other things, but because they are not integrated and a member of a pack. That's how I see it. Or if they don't die they are very miserable and without a purpose, just walk around like zombies and eventually die.

An interesting thing I heard today, parots held in captivity actualy die from lonelyness, if they don't get attention and stuff. I don't how true this is, but I heard about many cases.

Oh, and about the subject of the topic, your rank in a certain gang of boys is a sign of power and to girls this aspect is very important, they often choose the lider cause they need and feel protected this way, the lower your rank is in your group of friends the lower chances you have to get girls interested into you. Hierarchy does matter a lot. But that doesn't apply in all situation, lucky for us.

Ok, enough, if I write more I'll get depressed. :roll:

Don't anybody get depressed! hehe

Again... everything is quite much more easier when you smile back to others and avoid those thoughts about us and them. We are all humans (well I might say YOU are all humans) and so we are all the same flesh and blood. We all go to the toilet and we all breathe and we all die. When we get obsessed by things like "oh shit! they are staring at me!" we make others think we are weird .. don't you think so?
On the other hand... if you go smiling others smile back to you and then they get around you and talk to you and help you... because everybody wants to spend their time with "happy shiny people" and not with a depressed one. Start changing over. The way you show yourself to others is the way they'll show themselves back to you.
 

renegade

Well-known member
The_9th_passenger said:
The way you show yourself to others is the way they'll show themselves back to you.

I wish this was the wright method, it sounds too easy. Yeah, I force myself to smile back to others and make jokes and even laugh with them, but in the end they find that weird thing about me and start avoiding me.

I guess i'll ask them some day what the fuck is it that sends them away.

Anyway, thx for the advice The_9th_passenger, you bring a note of optimism to this forum, and sorry for my pessimist posts :oops: . i'll try to change my style from now on.

I must admit I saw hope when reading your last 2 posts from this topic. :). Keep manipulating our damaged way of thinking, I'm sure the others felt better after reading them.
 
crashmodem said:
I do not have any interests.

And for Jthompsons remark, if i saw you in person, i would knock your teeth down your throat. Do you get kicks out of telling people to kill themselves. No matter if you are using some sort of demented psychology on me.

Everything seems to complicated and too confusing for me to handle. If the women wants to talk to me, lets make it simple, let the girl come up to me. And you might all be thinking that i will never get a girlfriend that way, but since i don't have any interests, i don't go out because i have a real stressful job, and i need the time to wind down, i don't see too much promise do you?
Even if a girl approaches you, it doesn't help, atleast not for me. I've been "gifted" with high testosterone and good looks, so even with my strange behavior girls sometimes approach me with interest, but then I finally scare them of for good by not being able to look them in the eyes, talk properly, feeling dizzy, shaking, and trying to get away. It hurts even more than rejection, because you know it's all your brains fault that you messed up, noone else to blame but yourself in that case.

And I say "gifted", because being watched is so frightening for us SA'ers, and I stand out very much. Also, don't hate people who may look like a stereotypical jock, I happen to look so, but am very nerdy(read *hundreds* of sci-fi books for ex.) and mentally screwed up, so don't hate people your meet based on stereotypes. I've had teachers put me through hell in highschool because they assumed I was the same type of person who tortured them in their youth, which hurts all the more because I'm a nice guy to a fault and very empathic.
 

rosewood

Well-known member
Crashmodem,
i feel like you might be talking about how the SA is getting you down, and simultaneously saying you want to be with women who don't have SA.

Why not go for a woman who GETS the SA, maybe has a friend with it, or has it herself so it is not so difficult to have to explain the nervousness.

At least while you have the job of fighting with the SA while trying to get to know her, you won't have the added difficulty of being embarrassed because she might find out and not understand. Takes some of the load off of you.

I read that people have to date at least 12 individuals to finally settle on the right person. I can only imagine that it would take 3 to 4 times as many to sort through to say no. That would be a lot of good practice runs like another person has already stated.

It's simply a numbers game, eventually you will find someone who will say yes, AND that you like. Don't give up. It will be allright. Be patient with yourself.
:)
 
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